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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

It all starts in the trenches. Got to give SF credit for picking all them Dlineman early.

Their oline looked fairly stout today as well.

Seeing what Tenn is doing in Balt does kind of debunk the short rest excuse.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

It all starts in the trenches. Got to give SF credit for picking all them Dlineman early.

Their oline looked fairly stout today as well.

Seeing what Tenn is doing in Balt does kind of debunk the short rest excuse.

If only we could give the Vikes credit for all those top 5-10 picks year after year, it would be so sweet.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: odin

Funny how the Thumbtacks are taking it to the heavily-favored Ravens early on. They look fresh with an aggressive game plan rather than looking flat, lifeless and without direction. Interesting.

Come on now. We were down by 4 points at halftime and the defense was starting to get the best of Garropolo. Far from lifeless and without direction.

2nd Half: I will agree with you.

Key is we played NOT TO LOSE in first half, never had momentum, never played with agression...

We played Zimmer ball, close to vest, feeling take the sure points and punt rather than be agressive... It did keep it close UNTIL we ran out of gas and they passed us by and then left us in the dust...

Zimmer never will play any other way...

SF played it close to the vest the whole 2nd half. And most of the 1st.

We were physically over matched. Especially our OLine.

We said the exact same things two years ago after Philly game, overmatched lines... Its a bit more than that, we were outcoached even though we almost knew and well understood the game plan, and early on Garoppolo was quite off on thows and there were more plays to be made that could have turned the game.

We never siezed the moment, we played flat and calculated, never siezed the moment and capped it off with a style of That 70s mantra that feels a lot like playing NOT TO LOSE.

YES in the end we ran out of gas and their lines then statted having their way with us...

We are a poorly coached team who has coaching staff that are very slow to make adjustments and not good at in game changes in flow or capitalizing on matchup in gametime. If we start flat its what we are. Looked at Zimmer numerous times on sideline and we were a mirror of his being... listless and expressionless...

We need to smach them in the mouth and take over the game, but we instead felt comfy taking the for sure points and wasting time, to the point that once we wore down we were through. We let them off the hook when we should have been agressive and played for a close game, but played right into their motive, like they knew what a Zimmer coached team would do if given that choices...

Once the momentum shited and turn overs started to bury us, the air came out and it was over, the lines imploded and you could feel it just lift, any feeling of hope, it just floated away, nearly a whole quarter left and it was done...

Just give me an example of what we should have been doing on offense.

Instead of wasting two downs running into teeth of D we should have been doing more misdirection, slants and screens to weak side instead of run, run, overthrow... Kirk was flat, he was tenative, holding the ball and staring down first options.
Should have tried a few more shotgun formations instead of the heavy run game. We had no counters, no adjustment to their plan. Shanahan knew Kirks weakness and we just did what we could to limit the O line liability and keep trying to get the run game a factor. Never worked, and unfortunately Kirk is not a put the team on his back QB...

Maybe w could not have done anything with the match up, we were out played on lines and out coached. Players can only pour so much into a game like that and then even the studs wear out and conceide its not working...

We were beat by a better team than us on several levels, no shame, but lots to consider moving forward and I think you need to weigh this along with NFCCG two years ago as what we lack to take that step further...

Looks like it's time for the Ravens to rebuild.

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: odin

Funny how the Thumbtacks are taking it to the heavily-favored Ravens early on. They look fresh with an aggressive game plan rather than looking flat, lifeless and without direction. Interesting.

Come on now. We were down by 4 points at halftime and the defense was starting to get the best of Garropolo. Far from lifeless and without direction.

2nd Half: I will agree with you.

Key is we played NOT TO LOSE in first half, never had momentum, never played with agression...

We played Zimmer ball, close to vest, feeling take the sure points and punt rather than be agressive... It did keep it close UNTIL we ran out of gas and they passed us by and then left us in the dust...

Zimmer never will play any other way...

SF played it close to the vest the whole 2nd half. And most of the 1st.

We were physically over matched. Especially our OLine.

We said the exact same things two years ago after Philly game, overmatched lines... Its a bit more than that, we were outcoached even though we almost knew and well understood the game plan, and early on Garoppolo was quite off on thows and there were more plays to be made that could have turned the game.

We never siezed the moment, we played flat and calculated, never siezed the moment and capped it off with a style of That 70s mantra that feels a lot like playing NOT TO LOSE.

YES in the end we ran out of gas and their lines then statted having their way with us...

We are a poorly coached team who has coaching staff that are very slow to make adjustments and not good at in game changes in flow or capitalizing on matchup in gametime. If we start flat its what we are. Looked at Zimmer numerous times on sideline and we were a mirror of his being... listless and expressionless...

We need to smach them in the mouth and take over the game, but we instead felt comfy taking the for sure points and wasting time, to the point that once we wore down we were through. We let them off the hook when we should have been agressive and played for a close game, but played right into their motive, like they knew what a Zimmer coached team would do if given that choices...

Once the momentum shited and turn overs started to bury us, the air came out and it was over, the lines imploded and you could feel it just lift, any feeling of hope, it just floated away, nearly a whole quarter left and it was done...

Just give me an example of what we should have been doing on offense.

Instead of wasting two downs running into teeth of D we should have been doing more misdirection, slants and screens to weak side instead of run, run, overthrow... Kirk was flat, he was tenative, holding the ball and staring down first options.
Should have tried a few more shotgun formations instead of the heavy run game. We had no counters, no adjustment to their plan. Shanahan knew Kirks weakness and we just did what we could to limit the O line liability and keep trying to get the run game a factor. Never worked, and unfortunately Kirk is not a put the team on his back QB...

Maybe w could not have done anything with the match up, we were out played on lines and out coached. Players can only pour so much into a game like that and then even the studs wear out and conceide its not working...

We were beat by a better team than us on several levels, no shame, but lots to consider moving forward and I think you need to weigh this along with NFCCG two years ago as what we lack to take that step further...

Looks like it's time for the Ravens to rebuild.

Ravens couldn't even win a playoff game.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

It all starts in the trenches. Got to give SF credit for picking all them Dlineman early.

Their oline looked fairly stout today as well.

Seeing what Tenn is doing in Balt does kind of debunk the short rest excuse.

When we came out and ran up the middle twice, ended up in 3rd and 8 and air mailed a pass I knew we were screwed. Dumb dumb dumb!

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

It all starts in the trenches. Got to give SF credit for picking all them Dlineman early.

Their oline looked fairly stout today as well.

Seeing what Tenn is doing in Balt does kind of debunk the short rest excuse.

When we came out and ran up the middle twice, ended up in 3rd and 8 and air mailed a pass I knew we were screwed. Dumb dumb dumb!

You knew we were screwed after the very first possession? That's impressive.
I've never been able to determine the outcome of a game that quickly. Now
that you can bet online during a game based upon the situation in real time,
I would love to partner up with you. We could make lots of money based on
your knowledge. I'll be happy to match any wager you want to make and even
be willing to give you a percentage of what we win because of your superior
ability to see things that haven't happened yet. We'll have to agree to negotiate
the percentage of course. Let me know

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: odin

Funny how the Thumbtacks are taking it to the heavily-favored Ravens early on. They look fresh with an aggressive game plan rather than looking flat, lifeless and without direction. Interesting.

Come on now. We were down by 4 points at halftime and the defense was starting to get the best of Garropolo. Far from lifeless and without direction.

2nd Half: I will agree with you.

Key is we played NOT TO LOSE in first half, never had momentum, never played with agression...

We played Zimmer ball, close to vest, feeling take the sure points and punt rather than be agressive... It did keep it close UNTIL we ran out of gas and they passed us by and then left us in the dust...

Zimmer never will play any other way...

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: odin

Funny how the Thumbtacks are taking it to the heavily-favored Ravens early on. They look fresh with an aggressive game plan rather than looking flat, lifeless and without direction. Interesting.

Come on now. We were down by 4 points at halftime and the defense was starting to get the best of Garropolo. Far from lifeless and without direction.

2nd Half: I will agree with you.

Key is we played NOT TO LOSE in first half, never had momentum, never played with agression...

We played Zimmer ball, close to vest, feeling take the sure points and punt rather than be agressive... It did keep it close UNTIL we ran out of gas and they passed us by and then left us in the dust...

Zimmer never will play any other way...

What the hell does take the sure points and punt even mean?

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: David F.

List of current players that are going to be free agents - bear in mind that we are $5million over the cap RIGHT NOW. Yikes.

Trae Waynes
Anthony Harris
Rashod Hils
Andrew Sendejo
Mackensie Alexander
Dan Bailey
Britton Colquitt
Dakota Dozier
Sean Mannion
Ameer Abdullah
Laquon Treadwel
Brett Jones
C.J. Ham
Kentrell Brothers
David Morgan
Jayron Kearse
Stephen Weatherly
Eric Wilson

Consider how much Zimmer and company will have to do with far less next year and what might that further expose?

Doesnt feel like something to look forward to, like we were close this year, and next we get over hump... Think the hump just got over us...

3 guys on that list that are keepers. 2 renegotiations gets every one we want from that list back on our roster.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: David F.

List of current players that are going to be free agents - bear in mind that we are $5million over the cap RIGHT NOW. Yikes.

Trae Waynes
Anthony Harris
Rashod Hils
Andrew Sendejo
Mackensie Alexander
Dan Bailey
Britton Colquitt
Dakota Dozier
Sean Mannion
Ameer Abdullah
Laquon Treadwel
Brett Jones
C.J. Ham
Kentrell Brothers
David Morgan
Jayron Kearse
Stephen Weatherly
Eric Wilson

Consider how much Zimmer and company will have to do with far less next year and what might that further expose?

Doesnt feel like something to look forward to, like we were close this year, and next we get over hump... Think the hump just got over us...

3 guys on that list that are keepers. 2 renegotiations gets every one we want from that list back on our roster.

That makes 42 people on the team. Grab 6-10 draft picks, some UDFA's and call it good?

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: odin

Funny how the Thumbtacks are taking it to the heavily-favored Ravens early on. They look fresh with an aggressive game plan rather than looking flat, lifeless and without direction. Interesting.

Come on now. We were down by 4 points at halftime and the defense was starting to get the best of Garropolo. Far from lifeless and without direction.

2nd Half: I will agree with you.

Key is we played NOT TO LOSE in first half, never had momentum, never played with agression...

We played Zimmer ball, close to vest, feeling take the sure points and punt rather than be agressive... It did keep it close UNTIL we ran out of gas and they passed us by and then left us in the dust...

Zimmer never will play any other way...

What the hell does take the sure points and punt even mean?

I'm not sure but if there was such a thing Zimmer would do it!

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough loss, guys. We all have the right to be sour. In my case I will have to take a break and push a reset button. Being a football fan is not like going to the movies. The storybook ending doesn't come.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Elflein will still be on his rookie contract next year. I doubt they cut him.

The interior guys can block downfield, but good luck running between the tackles, and they don't pass block well enough against the better DTs when Kirk stays in the pocket. Seems like a fatal flaw of this offense.

With this offense, either need a mobile QB or an interior OL that can pass block a lot better. The fact that Bradbury and Elflein can block downfield was useless today.

In this day and age it seems painfully obvious that you need a qb that can move a little. I hope like hell we draft someone in the first couple rounds.

Agreed
Cousins is such a statue
We all agree the oline stinks, but not sure why we think Spielman can correct it
He signed Reiff, he drafted Elflein, he drafted Bradbury.
He has 0 idea what he is doing

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

As a very good analyst said a few weeks ago
If Kirk Cousins doesn’t get you a Super Bowl that signing is a disaster. Period

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ORIGINAL: David F.

PFF doesn't have today's game factored into their rankings yet so I'll hold off on the actual numbers but YIKES it's not looking good for every damn CB on the roster and any LB not named Kendricks or Wilson. We might have the best DE combo in the league and our DT's are passable (can't pay elite money though). We have the best safety group in the league by far.

What the heck happened to all the CB's? I mean - there's no other position that we invested more in than CB. They all graded anywhere from pretty bad to really really really bad.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: odin

Funny how the Thumbtacks are taking it to the heavily-favored Ravens early on. They look fresh with an aggressive game plan rather than looking flat, lifeless and without direction. Interesting.

Come on now. We were down by 4 points at halftime and the defense was starting to get the best of Garropolo. Far from lifeless and without direction.

2nd Half: I will agree with you.

Key is we played NOT TO LOSE in first half, never had momentum, never played with agression...

We played Zimmer ball, close to vest, feeling take the sure points and punt rather than be agressive... It did keep it close UNTIL we ran out of gas and they passed us by and then left us in the dust...

Zimmer never will play any other way...

You mean like throwing long bombs to open WRs.

Kind of like when teams didn't play with aggression against the 85 Bears and 2000 Ravens.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough loss, guys. We all have the right to be sour. In my case I will have to take a break and push a reset button. Being a football fan is not like going to the movies. The storybook ending doesn't come.

I just want one Super Bowl and I'm done Bruce! Just one.

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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

One thing I must ask...

After the failure of both lines in the NFCCG couple years back most laid the blame heavily at the feet of Case Keenum....

What blame do you lay on Kirk Cousins after today>?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

List of current players that are going to be free agents - bear in mind that we are $5million over the cap RIGHT NOW. Yikes.

Trae Waynes
Anthony Harris
Rashod Hils
Andrew Sendejo
Mackensie Alexander
Dan Bailey
Britton Colquitt
Dakota Dozier
Sean Mannion
Ameer Abdullah
Laquon Treadwel
Brett Jones
C.J. Ham
Kentrell Brothers
David Morgan
Jayron Kearse
Stephen Weatherly
Eric Wilson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough loss, guys. We all have the right to be sour. In my case I will have to take a break and push a reset button. Being a football fan is not like going to the movies. The storybook ending doesn't come.

I just want one Super Bowl and I'm done Bruce! Just one.

Losses like today would be a whole lot better digested if we just had one Super Bowl victory to fall back on. I'm with you, Richard. I'm with everyone here. I appreciate your loyalty through all of the disappointing conclusions to seasons. We may just as fans have to accept that we may never have that Super Bowl victory. Of course the owners and players can never think that way. That would be unacceptable.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ryan Boser
@Ryan_Boser
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It almost seems like Stefanski had some sort of distraction during an already-short week.