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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 8:44:00 AM   
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Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:07:19 AM   
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OK, so where are we as a team and is that window still slightly open. Well first, I think we have to look at what it will take to get us HFA in the playoffs, because I think that is where you have the best shot with Cousins as your guy. So, finishing at the #1 or #2 seed, what will it take.

1.) One to two more pieces for the offensive line. I believe Bradbury is the kind of guy that will take the advice of the people around him and put on the extra 20 pounds of muscle and be in a much better position to compete next year. You couple that with getting him a nasty LG next to him, a guy that can take over the offensive line with fire and attitude. I feel that Kline and O'Neil play fine next to each other and a stronger, smarter Bradbury only makes that side that much better. I am not sure if finding that LG I spoke of earlier, will be enough for Reiff, he played OK, but I think we have seen his best, so if we can get a guy that will be better than him, we should. I don't think you replace him just to replace him, he wasn't that big of a liability.

2.) Coaching needs to understand how to get the most out of Cousins. Sounds simple, but hear me out. Cousins had his best year as a pro, that means something. The scheme is the correct one for him. Problem is, the offensive line needs to play at very good level against every team or Cousins turns in to "bad Kirt". What we need to do is scheme the alternate offense for Kirt that takes advantage of what the defense is giving him when they go all out to stop the run and work him through that. In the all 22, when our offensive line was getting schooled this year, I still saw openings that didn't get used by Kirt, we need to better understand this and be working with him on the sideline. I believe he is one of those guys that needs to be more involved on the sideline, someone needs to be working with him when it's not going well, or he has too much time to be thinking, "oh shit, here it goes again". Fixing the offensive line will be a big help, but you also have to fix the thoughts that create "bad Kirt".

3.) Improve our push up the middle. Not sure if they found that answer in the first game of the playoffs, that was nice to see on passing downs, but that line-up won't hold against the run. We need a new space eater up front, maybe a young big man coming off his rookie deal like Linval was when we got him, but we need a big, young, strong man to take Linvals spot as Linval simply is a shell of his former self. A former self, I might add, that I loved watching and appreciate all he did for the Vikings. I like the small sample sizes I saw from Watts, I believe he will be a good one, JJ is OK in spurts, but you can't pay the big money to LJ or Stephen. Stephen is due over 7 million, not sure that works.

4.) This could be a surprising Junior class declaring for the draft, lots of talk about a lot of guys coming out. If that's the case, our #25 pick should land us a real solid CB prospect. Rhodes, Waynes can go. We need to sign Mac and draft a CB right out the gate. Pay Harris, restructure Smith so that he will be a Viking for the rest of his carrier. Say thank you to Griffin if he's not willing to take a pay cut, and why should he? I am real proud of what he did this year, but as Zimmer said, "it's a young mans game". Rudolph should also be let go, it's just time to move on. (He can go to New England for a couple years)

5.) Possible trade bait. Diggs, Barr or Cook. Not sure I'd like any of them to go, but I'd entertain offers/possibilities for the right players. I love Cook, but if the offensive line can improve as much next year as they did this year, Mattison and Boone and a draft pick could be just about as productive. I'm not saying get rid of Cook, only saying that if a top flight O-line guy was part of a deal, I'd look at it. I'd rather see Diggs go, but we are pretty fat at RB right now, could be an interesting prospect.

Some very hard choices are going to have to be made if this team is going to be competitive next year (competitive enough to get home field). We wee a 10-6 team with the 9th easiest schedule the Vikings have every had. It won't be so easy next year and we need to be much better to compete. It's either this, or tank for a couple of 4-12 seasons to start a rebuild project. Nobody wants that, well....

If we have to say goodbye to Griffen(I hope we find a way not to), Hunter and Odenigbo are a good tandem.

Maybe we can give up on Hercules being an undersized DT and put him in the rotation at DE.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:11:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

I believe we have a keeper in Udoh at RT.

Can Samia be an above average LG? I wouldn't bet the house on it so I go and find the best Guard available, no matter the price.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:25:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

I believe we have a keeper in Udoh at RT.

Can Samia be an above average LG? I wouldn't bet the house on it so I go and find the best Guard available, no matter the price.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Udoh is a much better player than the starter yet only got on the field in a meaningless game. Would be par for the course for Zimm.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:29:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

I believe we have a keeper in Udoh at RT.

Can Samia be an above average LG? I wouldn't bet the house on it so I go and find the best Guard available, no matter the price.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Udoh is a much better player than the starter yet only got on the field in a meaningless game. Would be par for the course for Zimm.

He wasn't going to take O'Neill's spot.

Dozier should have at least shared reps with Elf.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:40:48 AM   
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A good OL is totally dominating the Packers.
Seems easy.


Shanahan must have taken a look at the tape of our week 2 matchup in Green Bay. Frustrating we couldn't replicate that in the dome.

Congrats to the 49ers, by far the best team in the NFC all season. 13-3 record and their 3 losses came on the last play of the game, they should have won all of those games as well.

We took out their only threat in the NFC.

Makes for a fantastic SB.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:45:13 AM   
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I was thinking that it would be nice for the Vikings to have a fast running back like Mostert to complement Cook and Mattison. Looking at the draft prospects I didn't see one except for Ettiene. He may very well be gone before our second pick. I mean I wouldn't trade up for him or use a first rounder for a backup running back. I don't know if there are options in free agency. Maybe Matt Brieda, but his team is going to the Super Bowl so he will be overpriced. I thought Kareem Hunt was fast, but when I looked up his time in the 40 it didn't compare. I guess this idea won't work. Maybe in 2021.


Cook is plenty fast. If Cook was running behind that line in SF he'd come close to 2,000 yds. And I do like Mostert, I had Tevin Coleman on my fantasy team and kept thinking when I saw he and Mostert that #31 was far superior. Sometimes you're one injury away from being a really good team, and that happened yesterday.

Jet must be so frustrated knowing he would have been in a great system with a very good oline.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:45:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

I believe we have a keeper in Udoh at RT.

Can Samia be an above average LG? I wouldn't bet the house on it so I go and find the best Guard available, no matter the price.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Udoh is a much better player than the starter yet only got on the field in a meaningless game. Would be par for the course for Zimm.


Yes, Zimmer goes up to the huddling group of Offensive Coordinator Stephanski, Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Advisor Kubiak, and Offensive Line coach/Run game coordinator Rich Dennison, and tells them "Udoh stays on the bench".

The idiocy of that post really dumbfounds me.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:53:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

I believe we have a keeper in Udoh at RT.

Can Samia be an above average LG? I wouldn't bet the house on it so I go and find the best Guard available, no matter the price.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Udoh is a much better player than the starter yet only got on the field in a meaningless game. Would be par for the course for Zimm.


Yes, Zimmer goes up to the huddling group of Offensive Coordinator Stephanski, Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Advisor Kubiak, and Offensive Line coach/Run game coordinator Rich Dennison, and tells them "Udoh stays on the bench".

The idiocy of that post really dumbfounds me.

You can say what you want but once one is deemed a starter there isnt much that can be done to supplant said starter, no matter how badly the starter is playing. This is a trait of Zimmer teams during his entire tenure here. There you go flying off the handle again! You just can't have a civil conversation can you? Incapable.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 10:57:21 AM   
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Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 11:19:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.


I liked how cleverly they used their high pick Alex Smith.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 11:19:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Plain and simple we need to get stronger in the trenches.

I count one blue chip player (Hunter) on both sides of the ball.

O'Neal is a good player but our oline interior just gets abused against good dlines. If we're going to pound the rock you have to have the horses up front.

I believe we have a keeper in Udoh at RT.

Can Samia be an above average LG? I wouldn't bet the house on it so I go and find the best Guard available, no matter the price.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Udoh is a much better player than the starter yet only got on the field in a meaningless game. Would be par for the course for Zimm.

He wasn't going to take O'Neill's spot.

Dozier should have at least shared reps with Elf.

Could he have taken Reiffs spot? Maybe that's a stretch. Dozier should have flat out been playing in place of Elf. Elf wasn't strong enough or athletic enough and seemed to get worse down the stretch. I'll admit I give Bradbury a bit of a pass being he was a rookie and I liked the pick. Doesn't mean he can never be benched though. He was overwhelmed many times and I'm not sure he improved this season. He needs to get stronger and see what we have next year. I think he'll be ok but at least have a backup plan.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 11:33:31 AM   
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Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.

They have been in the Super Bowl twice in the last 7 years now. I wish I could say that for our Vikings.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 12:41:44 PM   
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We have a lot of work to do for sure. That was evident watching the past 2 weeks. Everyone knows both our lines need work. Cousins is good enough if he has time. Mattison can fill in for Cook, if needed. We need a reliable #3 WR and that should be easy enough to find. O goes as far as our line takes them next year.

Big question is what to do with Cook. It would be really risky to extend him given his history and our situation up front. That being said, we only played really well when he was carrying us.

Bigger issue to me, because it's not as easily defined, is what to do with the D? I would trade Barr but I don't think would let that happen. When Barr is unleashed he's great. It either doesn't happen enough or he's extremely streaking. Either way, something has to give there. We also need to get a space eater as many have stated. Joseph is done. Been a great Vike but he's done.

We need a DCordinator too. If it turns out to be Zimmer's kid that should be his ticket out of town IMO. We need a fresh look and I'd like to take away play calling duties from him.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 12:48:40 PM   
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I also think our overall team speed it pretty poor. The D has heady guys that have good instincts but we don't have those 1 or 2 guys flying all over the place reaking havoc.

On O we are very slow at WR/QB and TE. We could really use a guy like Samuel is for SF. He's strong enough to break tackles but also fast enough to run by guys.

Diggs is quick but not strong
Theilen is reliable neither fast nor strong
We don't have a real #3.

Look at how Samuel took that reverse and what he did with it and what a guy like Diggs or AT does. It's night and day.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 12:50:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.

They have been in the Super Bowl twice in the last 7 years now. I wish I could say that for our Vikings.


During the game Aikman made a point that Lynch's top priority was to get quality offensive and defensive linemen. It's interesting that the 49ers were mediocre for a long stretch, but then John Lynch was named GM in 2017 and it took him all of three years to get SF back to the Super Bowl. How long has RS been our GM? How much longer do we have to wait for Spielman to figure it out?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 1:00:00 PM   
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If last night's game proved anything its that we can win with Kirk (Garoppolo only threw 8 passes!) and we don't need to invest huge dollars in a RB, as the scheme we share with SF allows RB's to excel - assuming we get the offensive linemen to pull it off.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 1:57:17 PM   
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If last night's game proved anything its that we can win with Kirk (Garoppolo only threw 8 passes!) and we don't need to invest huge dollars in a RB, as the scheme we share with SF allows RB's to excel - assuming we get the offensive linemen to pull it off.


I think to beat SF you need to make Jimmy beat you. With their OL they are going to be tough either way, but they are running the ball so well right now. I want to see what Garoppolo can do if a defense takes away his running game. Should be a heck of a Super Bowl.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 2:22:59 PM   
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I also think our overall team speed it pretty poor. The D has heady guys that have good instincts but we don't have those 1 or 2 guys flying all over the place reaking havoc.

On O we are very slow at WR/QB and TE. We could really use a guy like Samuel is for SF. He's strong enough to break tackles but also fast enough to run by guys.

Diggs is quick but not strong
Theilen is reliable neither fast nor strong
We don't have a real #3.

Look at how Samuel took that reverse and what he did with it and what a guy like Diggs or AT does. It's night and day.

Samuel is just awesome. Guy runs with a chip on his shoulders.

Yes by all means we need a guy like him out there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 2:23:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.

They have been in the Super Bowl twice in the last 7 years now. I wish I could say that for our Vikings.


During the game Aikman made a point that Lynch's top priority was to get quality offensive and defensive linemen. It's interesting that the 49ers were mediocre for a long stretch, but then John Lynch was named GM in 2017 and it took him all of three years to get SF back to the Super Bowl. How long has RS been our GM? How much longer do we have to wait for Spielman to figure it out?


This is not a matter of Lynch or Spielman, its about Kyle Shanahan. Kyle makes most of the decisions for the 49ers and that includes the personnel. Kyle can implement those pieces to the style he wants.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 2:26:19 PM   
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If last night's game proved anything its that we can win with Kirk (Garoppolo only threw 8 passes!) and we don't need to invest huge dollars in a RB, as the scheme we share with SF allows RB's to excel - assuming we get the offensive linemen to pull it off.


I think to beat SF you need to make Jimmy beat you. With their OL they are going to be tough either way, but they are running the ball so well right now. I want to see what Garoppolo can do if a defense takes away his running game. Should be a heck of a Super Bowl.


The Packers couldn't set the edge vs the 49ers and that's the only way to slow down their run game. Our D tried that but then they simply ran it inside for 6 yards consistently, it's still the way to slow them down but the interior line needs to win some matchups.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 2:34:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.

They have been in the Super Bowl twice in the last 7 years now. I wish I could say that for our Vikings.


During the game Aikman made a point that Lynch's top priority was to get quality offensive and defensive linemen. It's interesting that the 49ers were mediocre for a long stretch, but then John Lynch was named GM in 2017 and it took him all of three years to get SF back to the Super Bowl. How long has RS been our GM? How much longer do we have to wait for Spielman to figure it out?


Patience. It took him all these years just to figure out the kicker and punter.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 2:39:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.

They have been in the Super Bowl twice in the last 7 years now. I wish I could say that for our Vikings.


During the game Aikman made a point that Lynch's top priority was to get quality offensive and defensive linemen. It's interesting that the 49ers were mediocre for a long stretch, but then John Lynch was named GM in 2017 and it took him all of three years to get SF back to the Super Bowl. How long has RS been our GM? How much longer do we have to wait for Spielman to figure it out?


This is not a matter of Lynch or Spielman, its about Kyle Shanahan. Kyle makes most of the decisions for the 49ers and that includes the personnel. Kyle can implement those pieces to the style he wants.


Because he has the horses up front to pull it off. The Vikings tried to run a similar scheme on the Packers but couldn't because their interior oline is so bad.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 2:52:25 PM   
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Been a lot of talk about the 9er dline but how about that oline?

They simply manhandled a Packer front 7 that our oline couldn't block at all.

Kittle (a TE) was often matched up on LaDarius Smith and took care of business. A guy neither Elf nor Bradbury could block.

Depressing


Yeah, well, like I said before, with any luck we'll be able to stock our lineup with top 5-10 picks for a couple decades like the 9ers have.

They have been in the Super Bowl twice in the last 7 years now. I wish I could say that for our Vikings.


This is a testament to the mediocrity model the Vikings operate under. The Wilfs are satisfied with just good enough to keep patrons in the seats and being the hot ticket in the Twin Ciites. Vikings management has largely accomplished this with playoff qualification at a rate around 50%. Now anything beyond that is uncharted territory for this franchise. The Vikings are the Christopher Columbus franchise of the NFL.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/20/2020 4:42:37 PM   
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Mary Kay Cabot, a beat writer for the Cleveland Browns, is reporting that the Browns could hire Vikings’ VP of Player Personnel/Assistant General Manager George Paton to be their new General Manager as early as this week.

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