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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 3:11:50 PM   
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What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.



A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.


I'm saying, for example, when Treadwell was on the field do you think opposing defenses gave much attention to him? When Adrian Peterson was on the field do you think opposing defenses worried much about him blocking for a long pass? A diversified offense is an unpredictable offense. The two go hand in hand.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 5:03:08 PM   
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Looks like the Vikings are discussing signing Harris. Not a done deal, yet.

http://www.twincities.com/2020/03/31/vikings-discussing-possible-long-term-extension-for-safety-anthony-harris-sources-say/

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 5:41:17 PM   
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Looks like the Vikings are discussing signing Harris. Not a done deal, yet.

http://www.twincities.com/2020/03/31/vikings-discussing-possible-long-term-extension-for-safety-anthony-harris-sources-say/

Harris had a great year, but I'm not confident that he is a top 5 safety in the league. We can't afford him at $14 million a year. Maybe he would settle for $12 million a year. 4 year deal. If he plays on the tag next year and gets injured he could end up getting nothing for 2021.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 5:59:54 PM   
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This is from Darren Doogie Wolfson on Twitter

TBD on what/if the #Vikings do. I am told his knee is doing great (injured it Week 6 then missed rest of year). Vikings do have a solid relationship with his side, and their new DBs coach knows Kirkpatrick well.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 6:04:24 PM   
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More from Wolfson:

Enough teams have good $$, including at least one that likes him. But never say never on a return as long as he's still out there and knowing the love he has for many in Eagan.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 6:57:42 PM   
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This is from Darren Doogie Wolfson on Twitter

TBD on what/if the #Vikings do. I am told his knee is doing great (injured it Week 6 then missed rest of year). Vikings do have a solid relationship with his side, and their new DBs coach knows Kirkpatrick well.

Signing Kirkpatrick and extending Harris would put us in good position going into draft.

CB could be pushed back to 2nd or 3rd Round: Gladney, Robertson, Igbinoghene
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 12:02:13 AM   
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This is from Darren Doogie Wolfson on Twitter

TBD on what/if the #Vikings do. I am told his knee is doing great (injured it Week 6 then missed rest of year). Vikings do have a solid relationship with his side, and their new DBs coach knows Kirkpatrick well.

Signing Kirkpatrick and extending Harris would put us in good position going into draft.

CB could be pushed back to 2nd or 3rd Round: Gladney, Robertson, Igbinoghene


Yes, and it would almost make it a lock that the Vikings select o-line and receiver in the first round. That may happen anyway.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 12:04:52 PM   
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What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.



A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.


Are we saying that our team cannot utilize our options more than we can utilize other teams options? Or are we saying that other teams cannot utilize our teams options more than our team utilizes them?
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 12:08:54 PM   
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Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


Remember the week it happened before the game against Buffalo? Probably the worst team in the league and we lost 27-6 at home...it at least cost us the playoffs.


I think that was more due to the massive across the board distraction to the team caused by Griffins goings on the week leading up to the Buffalo game, moreso than lesser performance put up by Griffins backup.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 12:18:08 PM   
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What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.



A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.


Are we saying that our team cannot utilize our options more than we can utilize other teams options? Or are we saying that other teams cannot utilize our teams options more than our team utilizes them?


I'm saying that some teams utilize all of their options better than others. I mean, some teams have a superstar wide receiver and will go to the well repeatedly even though everybody knows about it- they still can't stop it. Other teams are more balanced and therefore more unpredictable. That doesn't mean everything. The superstar team might actually be harder to stop.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 1:18:07 PM   
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What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.



A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.


Are we saying that our team cannot utilize our options more than we can utilize other teams options? Or are we saying that other teams cannot utilize our teams options more than our team utilizes them?


The latter. That's why Diggs wanted to leave, he wasn't keen on Zimmer pimping him out.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 1:19:52 PM   
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Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


Remember the week it happened before the game against Buffalo? Probably the worst team in the league and we lost 27-6 at home...it at least cost us the playoffs.


I think that was more due to the massive across the board distraction to the team caused by Griffins goings on the week leading up to the Buffalo game, moreso than lesser performance put up by Griffins backup.



Like being arrested the night before the game, or the instability in the practices leading up to the night prior?
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 1:28:23 PM   
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It took a few weeks for it to get back to normal....the Vikes owe Griffin nothing. They stood by him, paid him, supported him for half a year when he had the breakdown. Rumor was swirling Waynes was involved also (seeing/dating/etc. Griffin's significant other) but I don't know if it was valid or not.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 1:39:26 PM   
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It took a few weeks for it to get back to normal....the Vikes owe Griffin nothing. They stood by him, paid him, supported him for half a year when he had the breakdown. Rumor was swirling Waynes was involved also (seeing/dating/etc. Griffin's significant other) but I don't know if it was valid or not.

They were neighbors. During his psychotic break, Griffen went and pounded on Waynes' door when Waynes' significant other was home alone. Nobody was foolling around with the other's girlfriend or wife.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 2:53:16 PM   
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It took a few weeks for it to get back to normal....the Vikes owe Griffin nothing. They stood by him, paid him, supported him for half a year when he had the breakdown. Rumor was swirling Waynes was involved also (seeing/dating/etc. Griffin's significant other) but I don't know if it was valid or not.

They were neighbors. During his psychotic break, Griffen went and pounded on Waynes' door when Waynes' significant other was home alone. Nobody was foolling around with the other's girlfriend or wife.

I'm glad we stuck by him.

He had a chemical imbalance, mental breakdown(whatever you want to call it). It wasn't like he went nuts while hammered or high.

But, time to move on. Like David F. said, we hung on to JA one year too long. He(JA) never played the run and just looked for stats(sacks).
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 3:03:35 PM   
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Found this on Vikingsmessageboard.com but it's not on RotoWorld

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Minnesota Vikings have extended safety Anthony Harris. Contract details are 3yr/$34m with a $19.3m signing bonus & $26m gtd w/ a club option for a 4th yr at $15m gtd MN holds onto a key player

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 3:08:44 PM   
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So say they shave 3-4 million in Cap....Trent Williams trade with Reiff?

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 3:17:18 PM   
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Found this on Vikingsmessageboard.com but it's not on RotoWorld

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Minnesota Vikings have extended safety Anthony Harris. Contract details are 3yr/$34m with a $19.3m signing bonus & $26m gtd w/ a club option for a 4th yr at $15m gtd MN holds onto a key player

I'm guessing fake.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 3:35:51 PM   
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Found this on Vikingsmessageboard.com but it's not on RotoWorld

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Minnesota Vikings have extended safety Anthony Harris. Contract details are 3yr/$34m with a $19.3m signing bonus & $26m gtd w/ a club option for a 4th yr at $15m gtd MN holds onto a key player

I'm guessing fake.

Yeah pretty sure it's fake. Nothing on it anywhere.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 3:58:42 PM   
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Don't forget it's April fool's day.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 4:03:45 PM   
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As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 4:49:37 PM   
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As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

Its as clear cut as can be, he had to go ... unless you think we should have altered the team to appease a diva-ish WR.

No, Zimmer didnt sabotage the Harris trade prospects ... safeties, guards and fullbacks simply are valued under CBs, OTs and RBs for obvious reasons. That and the fact we already have a top caliber, highly paid safety on the roster has more to do with our lack of trade leverage than Zimmer opening his mouth.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 5:07:12 PM   
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As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

Its as clear cut as can be, he had to go ... unless you think we should have altered the team to appease a diva-ish WR.

No, Zimmer didnt sabotage the Harris trade prospects ... safeties, guards and fullbacks simply are valued under CBs, OTs and RBs for obvious reasons. That and the fact we already have a top caliber, highly paid safety on the roster has more to do with our lack of trade leverage than Zimmer opening his mouth.


Diggs had to go given the current environment that's for sure. Is the environment of 'run and stop the run' a great idea for today's game? I know, I know it is what it is. It just seems to me that a team should look to keep it's best players and build around that rather than establish an identity and then try to fit the pieces that way. We fell back-asswards into two elite talents in Diggs and Harris and we barely got to use them. Why can't there be two elite safeties? Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor want to know. Can you imagine if Seattle had let half the legion of boom move on because they didn't want too much invested in one area?

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 6:19:14 PM   
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Harris is a good example of a guy that should have been extended last year, before the season. Could have locked him up for around six million a year and been done with it. Lets remember, although he did have a couple of nice picks, a couple of them were flat out gifts too. He's a good player, I've always thought it was a very good pickup in UDFA, but he's simply not worth the contract that is being hyped up by the media and his agent. Because of the good year, his only really good year, he's set to make twice what he is really worth and many teams know this and won't pay it. I'd be disappointed in the Vikings if they ink him for over 9 million a year average. Love the kid, just don't love him enough to by him a mansion.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 4/1/2020 6:21:05 PM   
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As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

Its as clear cut as can be, he had to go ... unless you think we should have altered the team to appease a diva-ish WR.

No, Zimmer didnt sabotage the Harris trade prospects ... safeties, guards and fullbacks simply are valued under CBs, OTs and RBs for obvious reasons. That and the fact we already have a top caliber, highly paid safety on the roster has more to do with our lack of trade leverage than Zimmer opening his mouth.


Diggs had to go given the current environment that's for sure. Is the environment of 'run and stop the run' a great idea for today's game? I know, I know it is what it is. It just seems to me that a team should look to keep it's best players and build around that rather than establish an identity and then try to fit the pieces that way. We fell back-asswards into two elite talents in Diggs and Harris and we barely got to use them. Why can't there be two elite safeties? Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor want to know. Can you imagine if Seattle had let half the legion of boom move on because they didn't want too much invested in one area?

'Run and stop the run' is over-blown in here as a criticism. All NFL coaches not named Andy Reid would prefer to be able to 'run and stop the run', its a tremendous advantage. My apologies to Diggs if he wanted a return to the 2018 DeFilippo one dimensional passing attack – its fun for WRs but not for fans that have to watch their team get abused by more balanced, better coached teams.

Every team is trying to keep its best players and trying to adapt what they do to those player's strengths. Every team. Including the 1-15 and 14-2 teams.

I never said there can't be 2 elite safeties – since we had that last year (and still might in 2020), the point is moot. But the variables are different from year to year, and paying a Harris premier money (even for the safety position) will make it difficult to address other needs and work ourselves out of cap hell.

Our situation, roster, cap structure, etc. has nothing to do with that Seattle team from several years ago. That's neither here nor there.
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