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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 1:30:56 PM   
Hats4Bats


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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 2:08:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 3:06:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 3:44:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.


Keely is tall. 6'6" or 6'7". He's added about 20 lbs, hopefully of muscles since he came out of college. He's been a developmental player, but there must be something in him to gather the interest of several NFL teams. We have a good record of identifying diamonds in the rough and polishing them here. He's a long shot, though. He's always been a long shot, but he hasn't given up. You have to give him credit. I like to root for players like that.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 3:59:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.


Basically forever.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 4:02:08 PM   
Bruce Johnson

 

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What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 4:14:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 4:18:46 PM   
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What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1

He might be worth a 3rd round pick if he had a reasonable contract, but his contract is large AAV of over 16 Million per year. I am not sure if we just have to take on the base salary which is OK this year, but balloons later.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 4:56:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 5:39:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 5:59:59 PM   
Bruce Johnson

 

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 6:00:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 6:01:56 PM   
Bruce Johnson

 

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


He's getting to be at the age where a drop off can come and I certainly would prefer he came in as a backup, if he did return. I'm really getting to think strongly that it's better to move on from players sooner than later.

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We live in a world where we depend upon each other. In other words, we need each other just as God needs us and we need Him. How wonderful it would be if we could unite and live in harmony. Wouldn't it be better that way?
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 6:31:56 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


He's getting to be at the age where a drop off can come and I certainly would prefer he came in as a backup, if he did return. I'm really getting to think strongly that it's better to move on from players sooner than later.

We got it right when we transitioned from JA to Griffen. This looks like it might be the right time also.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 6:32:17 PM   
Hats4Bats


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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.


Keely is tall. 6'6" or 6'7". He's added about 20 lbs, hopefully of muscles since he came out of college. He's been a developmental player, but there must be something in him to gather the interest of several NFL teams. We have a good record of identifying diamonds in the rough and polishing them here. He's a long shot, though. He's always been a long shot, but he hasn't given up. You have to give him credit. I like to root for players like that.



I agree Bruce....Love players like that. Just have not heard much about his potential, although it has got to be a good sign he stays on, while others "come and go" continueously

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 7:02:33 PM   
Bruce Johnson

 

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.


Keely is tall. 6'6" or 6'7". He's added about 20 lbs, hopefully of muscles since he came out of college. He's been a developmental player, but there must be something in him to gather the interest of several NFL teams. We have a good record of identifying diamonds in the rough and polishing them here. He's a long shot, though. He's always been a long shot, but he hasn't given up. You have to give him credit. I like to root for players like that.



I agree Bruce....Love players like that. Just have not heard much about his potential, although it has got to be a good sign he stays on, while others "come and go" continueously


I've never seen one of the XFL games. but that would be one of the appeals- to watch players who love the game and are hungry to make it to the big league. Baseball minor leagues must be like that.

At the end of the pre-season I always sweat out about who makes the final roster spots. Maybe I shouldn't care about them so much because largely they don't impact the wins and losses, but I take interest in those players. Last year I was especially interested in Davion Davis, the wide receiver out of Sam Houston State. He hardly even had a chance to play in the pre-season, but still I took interest in him and rooted for him when he finally got into a game. I was happy when he made the practice squad.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 7:16:09 PM   
David F.


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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: bstinger

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


He's getting to be at the age where a drop off can come and I certainly would prefer he came in as a backup, if he did return. I'm really getting to think strongly that it's better to move on from players sooner than later.

We got it right when we transitioned from JA to Griffen. This looks like it might be the right time also.


We kept JA one year too many

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/30/2020 11:19:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Hats4Bats

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.


Keely is tall. 6'6" or 6'7". He's added about 20 lbs, hopefully of muscles since he came out of college. He's been a developmental player, but there must be something in him to gather the interest of several NFL teams. We have a good record of identifying diamonds in the rough and polishing them here. He's a long shot, though. He's always been a long shot, but he hasn't given up. You have to give him credit. I like to root for players like that.



I agree Bruce....Love players like that. Just have not heard much about his potential, although it has got to be a good sign he stays on, while others "come and go" continueously


I've never seen one of the XFL games. but that would be one of the appeals- to watch players who love the game and are hungry to make it to the big league. Baseball minor leagues must be like that.

At the end of the pre-season I always sweat out about who makes the final roster spots. Maybe I shouldn't care about them so much because largely they don't impact the wins and losses, but I take interest in those players. Last year I was especially interested in Davion Davis, the wide receiver out of Sam Houston State. He hardly even had a chance to play in the pre-season, but still I took interest in him and rooted for him when he finally got into a game. I was happy when he made the practice squad.


I'm similar.

I can enjoy a season even when the team is bad IF there are guys on the team you think have talent might develop into something.

I watched some XFL and saw a number of former Vikings... sadly, the XFL QBs were pretty bad and that killed a lot of the enjoyment for me.

On a tangent... someone interviewed Kyle Sloter about his time in MN.
It basically came down to something like he'd get 8 snaps(I don't remember exactly but definitely single digits) a practice as 3rd QB.

How can the NFL not have a better way to develop QBs?!?!??!
It seems like there is a bit of a glut at the moment but how many years did 1/2 the teams lack a legit QB.
It seems insane that a guy is going to make any progress getting basically no reps during the year.
I have to say... one thing Denny Green did was plug in just about any QB and make things work.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 7:04:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1


The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's


In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.



A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 7:19:36 AM   
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Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


Remember the week it happened before the game against Buffalo? Probably the worst team in the league and we lost 27-6 at home...it at least cost us the playoffs.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 7:29:02 AM   
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Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.


Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.


I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.


He's getting to be at the age where a drop off can come and I certainly would prefer he came in as a backup, if he did return. I'm really getting to think strongly that it's better to move on from players sooner than later.

We got it right when we transitioned from JA to Griffen. This looks like it might be the right time also.


We kept JA one year too many

Agreed. I think Grif took over in his third season but was clearly ready his second season and JA was not only toast but was paid huge money his final year to be toast.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 9:55:58 AM   
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CB Dre Kirkpatrick released.

Any interest?

Maybe a low salary, no guaranteed money deal.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 11:54:56 AM   
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The Chronicle-Telegram's Scott Petrak believes free agent Everson Griffen is on the Browns' radar.
This isn't surprising given the connections to the Browns' coaching staff. Griffen was with Kevin Stefanski and DC Joe Woods for multiple seasons in Minnesota. The Browns can save $5 million from releasing Olivier Vernon and have been linked to pass rushers to book end with Myles Garrett. After opting out of his Vikings contract, Griffen may have to settle for one-year offers.

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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 1:40:16 PM   
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The Chronicle-Telegram's Scott Petrak believes free agent Everson Griffen is on the Browns' radar.
This isn't surprising given the connections to the Browns' coaching staff. Griffen was with Kevin Stefanski and DC Joe Woods for multiple seasons in Minnesota. The Browns can save $5 million from releasing Olivier Vernon and have been linked to pass rushers to book end with Myles Garrett. After opting out of his Vikings contract, Griffen may have to settle for one-year offers.

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I believe veterans like Griff are going to have to get used to one year deals. I also believe this can be a good thing for both the player and the team. The player stays motivated to play at the highest level they can to get a future contract and the team gets the best effort out of a guy that's probably not going to give that same effort on a four year deal. Probably sucks for the players a little bit, but if you play strong each year, you can get some bucks together as you prepare for life after football.
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RE: Free Agency 2020 - 3/31/2020 2:49:22 PM   
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Bowers?

With the Patriots


Thank you. I was wondering about him. I liked him. I guess his replacement is this guy. He is our other guy for a cheap contract at DE.

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/player/39875/

Also, Stacy Keely


Hasn't Keely been on the practice squad like forever? What do the coaches see in him? Curious?

I think just last year.

But, I could be wrong.


Keely is tall. 6'6" or 6'7". He's added about 20 lbs, hopefully of muscles since he came out of college. He's been a developmental player, but there must be something in him to gather the interest of several NFL teams. We have a good record of identifying diamonds in the rough and polishing them here. He's a long shot, though. He's always been a long shot, but he hasn't given up. You have to give him credit. I like to root for players like that.



I agree Bruce....Love players like that. Just have not heard much about his potential, although it has got to be a good sign he stays on, while others "come and go" continueously


I've never seen one of the XFL games. but that would be one of the appeals- to watch players who love the game and are hungry to make it to the big league. Baseball minor leagues must be like that.

At the end of the pre-season I always sweat out about who makes the final roster spots. Maybe I shouldn't care about them so much because largely they don't impact the wins and losses, but I take interest in those players. Last year I was especially interested in Davion Davis, the wide receiver out of Sam Houston State. He hardly even had a chance to play in the pre-season, but still I took interest in him and rooted for him when he finally got into a game. I was happy when he made the practice squad.


I'm similar.

I can enjoy a season even when the team is bad IF there are guys on the team you think have talent might develop into something.

I watched some XFL and saw a number of former Vikings... sadly, the XFL QBs were pretty bad and that killed a lot of the enjoyment for me.

On a tangent... someone interviewed Kyle Sloter about his time in MN.
It basically came down to something like he'd get 8 snaps(I don't remember exactly but definitely single digits) a practice as 3rd QB.

How can the NFL not have a better way to develop QBs?!?!??!
It seems like there is a bit of a glut at the moment but how many years did 1/2 the teams lack a legit QB.
It seems insane that a guy is going to make any progress getting basically no reps during the year.
I have to say... one thing Denny Green did was plug in just about any QB and make things work.

Mannion over Sloter? don't get it..however, supposedly he is like a coach in the qb room sooooo there's that

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