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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Hill can't be counted on as one of our top three CBs. Not to say he can't be part of the team or that we shouldn't continue to support and develop him, but he is currently in Josh Gordon mode until he puts together a couple of years with no suspensions. I keep Waynes and Alexander unless they're outrageous.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: drviking

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I agree the compensation is reasonable.

My issue is how many teams would he be willing to accept a trade to? Most contenders are set at QB, he's not going to want to go to a loser. And he likely doesn't want to go somewhere, learn a whole new system and teammates for just 1 year and then likely move on again.

I guess if Brady or Brees retire or move on, either one of those teams might be interested in a stop-gap QB for 1 season. But I'm not sure they have the financial ability (or desire) to absorb Kirk.

Plus if we try to trade him and he turns it down, we've likely fractured our relationship with him and it could lead to another long year...

agree with many points

its EXTREMELY unlikely to trade cousins, and/or sign teddy

but it was just my offseason dreamin post


i will post a plan WITH cousins at a later date,

the way to trade cousins is to give him a raise....

we pick up $15-$20m and the new team gives him $20-$15m for 2020...and we get some picks...didn't the eagles do a little of that with bradford?....

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I believe Mack Alexander will require more than 3 mill for a re-sign.

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I like the DJ Reader signing. Brez could probably make it an even swap(cap wise) for Linval(cut).

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I believe Mack Alexander will require more than 3 mill for a re-sign.

Without a doubt. The cap hit of his first year is likely to be around $3 million though even if the contract averages $5 million or better per year.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Is a trade for Trent Williams a possibility, or is it farfetched like my Sheldon Richardson idea 2 years ago ?

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ORIGINAL: marty

Is a trade for Trent Williams a possibility, or is it farfetched like my Sheldon Richardson idea 2 years ago ?

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Listening to Spielman and Zimmer, the vibe I get is that they feel pretty good about the state of the team and are focused on holding it together and improving ‘organically’ from within - rather than adding a couple of shiny new pieces to try and push the talent upward. Maybe that’s just being realistic about the cap situation.

Even with a better cap situation. It just feels to me like we view ourselves as the team that beat NO, not the team that got thoroughly thumped by SF.

I will be shocked if we go after a first tier FA like Williams (if available) or any other.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: marty

Is a trade for Trent Williams a possibility, or is it farfetched like my Sheldon Richardson idea 2 years ago ?

Farfetched.

If we do a trade, go up in draft and grab a stud OT.

Doubt we do anything though.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Listening to Spielman and Zimmer, the vibe I get is that they feel pretty good about the state of the team and are focused on holding it together and improving ‘organically’ from within - rather than adding a couple of shiny new pieces to try and push the talent upward. Maybe that’s just being realistic about the cap situation.

Even with a better cap situation. It just feels to me like we view ourselves as the team that beat NO, not the team that got thoroughly thumped by SF.

I will be shocked if we go after a first tier FA like Williams (if available) or any other.

Reader replacing Joseph should be an upgrade we pursue.

CB will be interesting. I'm guessing we make an offer to Waynes and cut Rhodes and Alexander loose.
I'm thinking high round CB, Hill, Hughes and Boyd and older, cheaper FA vet CB will be our core. Waynes will leave for big $$$.

Franchise Harris.

Reiff will either be cut or restructured. I'm thinking we draft a OLineman high.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Listening to Spielman and Zimmer, the vibe I get is that they feel pretty good about the state of the team and are focused on holding it together and improving ‘organically’ from within - rather than adding a couple of shiny new pieces to try and push the talent upward. Maybe that’s just being realistic about the cap situation.

Even with a better cap situation. It just feels to me like we view ourselves as the team that beat NO, not the team that got thoroughly thumped by SF.

I will be shocked if we go after a first tier FA like Williams (if available) or any other.

Reader replacing Joseph should be an upgrade we pursue.

CB will be interesting. I'm guessing we make an offer to Waynes and cut Rhodes and Alexander loose.
I'm thinking high round CB, Hill, Hughes and Boyd and older, cheaper FA vet CB will be our core. Waynes will leave for big $$$.

Franchise Harris.

Reiff will either be cut or restructured. I'm thinking we draft a OLineman high.

I let Harris walk. We simply can't afford him.

I think with the new CBA not marijuana testing Holton Hill's availibility % increases.
I'd prefer to cut bothe Waynes and Rhodes loose and re-sign Alexander

Agree on Reader

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough decisions have to be made, no doubt. I'm glad that the NFL has a salary cap. It's competitive for most of the teams. Baseball is not. I mean, the Orioles used to be good every year. When was the last time they were in the playoffs? The Pirates and Reds- same story. They used to have very good teams. The NBA has a salary cap, but it doesn't somehow work. How many playoff games have the Wolves won in the last 15 years? The Vikings did win a playoff game this past season. Every once in a while they get to lose in an NFC championship game. The Twins? A year ago I would have put them in the category of the Orioles, but they won 101 games last year. I guess they won a lot of games vs. weak teams, but they feel like a good team again. Congratulations to them! The Wild have a salary cap. It doesn't seem to work for them. I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm only rambling. Forgive me.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough decisions have to be made, no doubt. I'm glad that the NFL has a salary cap. It's competitive for most of the teams. Baseball is not. I mean, the Orioles used to be good every year. When was the last time they were in the playoffs? The Pirates and Reds- same story. They used to have very good teams. The NBA has a salary cap, but it doesn't somehow work. How many playoff games have the Wolves won in the last 15 years? The Vikings did win a playoff game this past season. Every once in a while they get to lose in an NFC championship game. The Twins? A year ago I would have put them in the category of the Orioles, but they won 101 games last year. I guess they won a lot of games vs. weak teams, but they feel like a good team again. Congratulations to them! The Wild have a salary cap. It doesn't seem to work for them. I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm only rambling. Forgive me.

That has nothing to so with the Salary Cap and everything to do with the Wolves being the worst organization in the NBA over their history.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Tyeler Davison – DT

Tyeler Davison is a big presence on the defensive line that might be available at a good price for the Vikings this offseason.

The status of Linval Joseph for 2020 is currently uncertain due to his $12.88 million cap hit for next season. Minnesota would save over $10 million if he is released this year.

While Joseph is still performing at a relatively high level, he represents an intriguing possibility for the Vikings to free up cap space.

Davison played his first four NFL seasons with the New Orleans Saints before opting to join NFC South rival Atlanta Falcons on a one-year deal.

He does not possess much pass-rushing ability from the defensive tackle position. But he is a stout run stuffer who would fit in well with Mike Zimmer’s defense in Minnesota. There are enough players who like getting after the quarterback on the Vikings’ roster and acquiring someone like Davison would give the line a nice balance.

The 26-year-old has his best years ahead of him and he has stayed pretty healthy throughout his career. Davison might not have the big reputation and the ceiling of someone like Joseph, but he will be considerably cheaper for Minnesota next season without too much of a drop-off.

Davison made $805,000 in base salary in 2019 and he proved he is worthy of a longer commitment from a franchise. Putting him with the Vikings on something like a three-year, $4 million deal would be a solid solution for all parties.


https://thevikingage.com/2020/03/06/7-underrated-free-agents-minnesota-vikings-2020/

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough decisions have to be made, no doubt. I'm glad that the NFL has a salary cap. It's competitive for most of the teams. Baseball is not. I mean, the Orioles used to be good every year. When was the last time they were in the playoffs? The Pirates and Reds- same story. They used to have very good teams. The NBA has a salary cap, but it doesn't somehow work. How many playoff games have the Wolves won in the last 15 years? The Vikings did win a playoff game this past season. Every once in a while they get to lose in an NFC championship game. The Twins? A year ago I would have put them in the category of the Orioles, but they won 101 games last year. I guess they won a lot of games vs. weak teams, but they feel like a good team again. Congratulations to them! The Wild have a salary cap. It doesn't seem to work for them. I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm only rambling. Forgive me.

That has nothing to so with the Salary Cap and everything to do with the Wolves being the worst organization in the NBA over their history.

I think it's more than that. I mean, how many teams have won NBA titles in the past 50 years? Only a handful of teams.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Tough decisions have to be made, no doubt. I'm glad that the NFL has a salary cap. It's competitive for most of the teams. Baseball is not. I mean, the Orioles used to be good every year. When was the last time they were in the playoffs? The Pirates and Reds- same story. They used to have very good teams. The NBA has a salary cap, but it doesn't somehow work. How many playoff games have the Wolves won in the last 15 years? The Vikings did win a playoff game this past season. Every once in a while they get to lose in an NFC championship game. The Twins? A year ago I would have put them in the category of the Orioles, but they won 101 games last year. I guess they won a lot of games vs. weak teams, but they feel like a good team again. Congratulations to them! The Wild have a salary cap. It doesn't seem to work for them. I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm only rambling. Forgive me.

That has nothing to so with the Salary Cap and everything to do with the Wolves being the worst organization in the NBA over their history.

I think it's more than that. I mean, how many teams have won NBA titles in the past 50 years? Only a handful of teams.

Nope.

17 NBA teams have won the last 50 years.

20 NFL teams have won the last 50 years.

You can look up MLB yourself.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I would rather keep Mac Alexander than Waynes, but we may lose them both.