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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:19:48 AM   
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The Vikings would be wise to trade some of today’s picks for 2021s. But, Rick and Zim aren’t under contract next year, so will they?

(Paul Charchian on Twitter)

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:33:09 AM   
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Not much going on right now, so perhaps you would like to listen to this interview with Ezra Cleveland.

https://twitter.com/GabeAHenderson/status/1254032093081976832?s=20

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:35:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ragnarök

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/25/report-trent-williams-declined-trade-to-minnesota/

So much for talk of him wanting to play with Cousins and Vikes having legitimate feelers out...

He probably looked at Tunsil's new contract and our cap situation.

Or maybe he hates Cousins guts.

He probably hates that Cousins played the franchise money game and won and he(Williams) is still trying to get one more big score. Probably not fair when you consider their talent levels.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:39:38 AM   
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Just my opinion, but, I believe this could be one of those strange seasons when you get a lot of great players after the third round. Whether it's the COVID-19 effect or whatever, some of the players that got drafted should not have been drafted that early. You've got guys getting drafted from LSU and Bama right now that are generally 4th-6th round picks. It's almost as if the scouts have been paralyzed and are just running on instincts. Most of these houses look like nothing more than my fantasy football draft.

Yeah. I see what you are saying.

Coaches and GMs couldn't get prospects in the building so they go on college coaches recommendations. Am I going to listen to Saban and Orgeron or Joe Blow at Appalachian State?

Hopefully quantity is a big plus for Vikings today.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:41:33 AM   
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Just my opinion, but, I believe this could be one of those strange seasons when you get a lot of great players after the third round. Whether it's the COVID-19 effect or whatever, some of the players that got drafted should not have been drafted that early. You've got guys getting drafted from LSU and Bama right now that are generally 4th-6th round picks. It's almost as if the scouts have been paralyzed and are just running on instincts. Most of these houses look like nothing more than my fantasy football draft.

There is value in numerous day 3 picks. The more picks the higher the chance of striking gold.

Most of those SEC players though are 4-5 star recruits and have better athleticism and size.

We certainly have enough picks though to shore up the lack of depth we had going in.

Many of us, including me, won't recognize a lot of names today but that doesn't mean theiy're bad prospects.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:45:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Just my opinion, but, I believe this could be one of those strange seasons when you get a lot of great players after the third round. Whether it's the COVID-19 effect or whatever, some of the players that got drafted should not have been drafted that early. You've got guys getting drafted from LSU and Bama right now that are generally 4th-6th round picks. It's almost as if the scouts have been paralyzed and are just running on instincts. Most of these houses look like nothing more than my fantasy football draft.

Yeah. I see what you are saying.

Coaches and GMs couldn't get prospects in the building so they go on college coaches recommendations. Am I going to listen to Saban and Orgeron or Joe Blow at Appalachian State?

Hopefully quantity is a big plus for Vikings today.

There are some really good football programs that had one or no players taken. Stanford had a very poor year, but I can't remember the last time Stanford or Wisconsin didn't have an offensive lineman drafted in the first three rounds. Boston College always seems to have a few as well. Nobody from Oklahoma State, Washington or Michigan State? U of Miami? North Carolina? Florida State? BYU, Pitt or Purdue?

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:51:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Just my opinion, but, I believe this could be one of those strange seasons when you get a lot of great players after the third round. Whether it's the COVID-19 effect or whatever, some of the players that got drafted should not have been drafted that early. You've got guys getting drafted from LSU and Bama right now that are generally 4th-6th round picks. It's almost as if the scouts have been paralyzed and are just running on instincts. Most of these houses look like nothing more than my fantasy football draft.

Yeah. I see what you are saying.

Coaches and GMs couldn't get prospects in the building so they go on college coaches recommendations. Am I going to listen to Saban and Orgeron or Joe Blow at Appalachian State?

Hopefully quantity is a big plus for Vikings today.

There are some really good football programs that had one or no players taken. Stanford had a very poor year, but I can't remember the last time Stanford or Wisconsin didn't have an offensive lineman drafted in the first three rounds. Boston College always seems to have a few as well. Nobody from Oklahoma State, Washington or Michigan State? U of Miami? North Carolina? Florida State? BYU, Pitt or Purdue?

We are set up well for taking chances on multiple Guards. And Edge pass rushers.

Hopefully Speilman figures it out.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:52:10 AM   
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Needs today

G (2 or 3)
S (2)
DE
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RB
CB

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 8:52:29 AM   
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Right now, it's like people only have game tape to go by and not interviews and such...

Funny, though, and we'll see how it plays out, but according to Malcolm Gladwell's most recent book, Talking to Strangers, people are horrible judges when it comes to face to face meetings...
even people like FBI and Judges are terrible at it
computers do a better job than the coveted face to face meeting (for many reasons in the book)
so maybe we'll see we do better at understanding character from what we know from a distance and not go by what some charming young punk tells you to your face

ha, food for thought, anyway
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:00:17 AM   
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Coaches are going to trump up their players. If it's garbage, their reps will be known.

Players are going to say what they've been told to say or what sounds right.

Game tape doesn't lie!
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:03:25 AM   
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Those teams that bolstered their capacity to analyze game footage early may come out winners.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:05:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Just my opinion, but, I believe this could be one of those strange seasons when you get a lot of great players after the third round. Whether it's the COVID-19 effect or whatever, some of the players that got drafted should not have been drafted that early. You've got guys getting drafted from LSU and Bama right now that are generally 4th-6th round picks. It's almost as if the scouts have been paralyzed and are just running on instincts. Most of these houses look like nothing more than my fantasy football draft.


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ORIGINAL: Brad H
There are some really good football programs that had one or no players taken. Stanford had a very poor year, but I can't remember the last time Stanford or Wisconsin didn't have an offensive lineman drafted in the first three rounds. Boston College always seems to have a few as well. Nobody from Oklahoma State, Washington or Michigan State? U of Miami? North Carolina? Florida State? BYU, Pitt or Purdue?


Yeah. I see what you are saying.

The scouts and GMs screwed up in the first 3 rounds of the draft because they just drafted blindly from the best college power programs coming off winning seasons.

And that the scouts and GMs would do better for the balance of the draft by just drafting blindly from the best college power programs coming off losing seasons.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:12:07 AM   
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Matison was ecstatic when he heard the Vikings drafted his former Boise teammate:

“I was screaming so loud, the neighbors probably heard me,” said Vikings running back Alexander Mattison, a former college teammate of Cleveland’s. “He’s extremely smart, he’s extremely talented, he’s extremely athletic and extremely strong. … If I had one word to tag on him it would be ‘monster.’ That man is extremely athletic and awesome.”
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:30:45 AM   
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Seen that Cleveland was born premature but was still 11 lbs

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:34:39 AM   
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We have an unusually large amount of picks left. Trading up makes sense; so does swapping picks for higher rounds next year. Here's a weird idea too: Use all the picks today. Take a look at the current roster. Between some possible cuts or trades of Harris and Reiff and a whole bunch of nobodies at the bottom of the roster it looks to me that we could maybe roster all or close to all of the picks coming today.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:37:28 AM   
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I'm disappointed we couldn't convert our draft capital into another second or third rounder ... but NOT missing out on DT Gallimore or someother 2nd day prospect is not going to make or break our draft.

After looking at espn's best available ... there is still a big grab bag of intriguing players.

My favorites for day 3:

S/CB L'Jarius Sneed, Louisiana Tech (6-1 / 192) – Good size and length, ran a 4.37 40, jumped 41” and broad jumped 131” at the combine. Not a physical tackler but off the charts athleticism and quality ball skills could see him move back to CB in nfl.

S Josh Metellus, Michigan (5-10 / 209) – Metellus is a well-built safety with longer arms, big hands and average top-end speed. He masks OK burst and fluidity with physicality, instincts and length in coverage. Metellus has very good ball skills. He's a willing run defender and sure tackler.

DT Rashard Lawrence, LSU (6-2 / 308) – 3 time team captain has low center of gravity but tracks the ball well, flashes abilty to make plays in backfield; very good top end speed, upper body strength and powerful hands needs; to develop counter moves.

DE James Lynch, Baylor (6-4 / 289) – Good at setting the edge but a better pass rusher from the inside. marginal speed but ultra feisty and productive.

OG Ben Bartch, St. John's (MN) (6-6 / 309) – TE moved to LT; only played 2 seasons so developing technique but very athletic and an overpowering run blocker on tape; impressed at the Senior Bowl. Some people think he projects to G in NFL.

OG Saahdiq Charles, LSU (6-4 / 321) – Charles is strong run-blocker who moves well climbing to the second level. He's a developmental prospect who is physically gifted but has shorter arms for a tackle and has a lot of work to do with his overall technique. Charles primarily lined up at left tackle, but he also started games at right tackle and guard.

OG Jon Runyan, Michigan (6-4 / 306) – Runyan started at left tackle the past two seasons, but he has also played right tackle and right guard. He has below-average length for a tackle and projects best at guard. He tested well in areas that correlate with success for interior offensive linemen at the combine. His 40 time, short shuttle and broad jump results were all above-average for a guard.

OG John Simpson, Clemson (6-4 / 321) – Tough big guard with long arms and slightly above-average movement. He has the quickness, length and wide frame to compete but struggles to mirror in pass pro. He's an average positional blocker who takes sound angles in the run game.

WR Tyler Johnson, Minnesota (6-1 206) – Refined route runner who knows how to separate. He turns into a running back after the catch. He doesn't have great speed. He has smaller hands and there are a lot of drops on tape, but he's still been one of the most productive receivers in college football the past two seasons.

WR/KR/ST Joe Reed Virginia (6-1 / 224) – Lines up everywhere including the backfield. Route running needs improvement but explosive player – one of the most dangerous KR in college. Reed also finished with 17 Tackles in college – very good covering kicks.


TE Mitchell Wilcox, South Florida (6-4 / 247) – Less-than-ideal length and timed speed but he’s good at finding holes in zones and very tough over the middle. Real edgy guy that fires up team. If he can bulk up and get stronger, could replace Morgan (slightly less of a blocker, slightly better pass catcher).[/color]

TE Colby Parkinson, Stanford (6-7 / 252) – Big target, makes catches over the middle, fast enough to make plays down the seam; competitive blocker.

SIZE OR SPEED OR ATHLETICISM GUYS (I.E., PURE DEVELOPMENTAL)

DE Tipa Galeai, Utah State (6-5 / 235) – Lean edge defender with good length and explosive get-off, bend and closing speed to develop into a disruptive edge rusher. He flashes the ability to stack blockers but gives ground and is a better pass-rusher than run defender. Needs to fill out and get stronger.

DE Alton Robinson, Syracuse (6-3 / 264) – above-average initial quickness, and he ran the third-fastest 40 out of all the defensive linemen at the combine. Disruptive run defender who has the ability to slip blocks and closes well chasing from the backside. Room for improvement when it comes to getting off blocks.

OT Alex Taylor, South Carolina State (6-8 / 308) – Taylor is a tall and lean offensive tackle with excellent upside. He has outstanding arm length and borderline outstanding initial quickness. He can be dominant on tape but is not a finished product.

WR Quez Watkins, Southern Mississippi (6-0 / 185) – Watkins ran the third-fastest 40 at the combine, and his playing speed matches his timed speed. Also returns kicks. Hands are inconsistent and needs to get better at winning 50-50 balls.

WR Collin Johnson, Texas(6-6 / 222) Great big target with average speed and natural hands / body control; not an explosive route runner

TE Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri (6-6 / 258) great size and athleticism but hasn’t produced squat.

TE Stephen Sullivan, LSU (6-5 / 248) – Production and tape never matched talent at LSU but Sullivan has an exceptional combination of size, length and speed. He had the longest arms and tied for the second-fastest 40-yard dash time of all the tight ends at the combine.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:44:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: David F.

We have an unusually large amount of picks left. Trading up makes sense; so does swapping picks for higher rounds next year. Here's a weird idea too: Use all the picks today. Take a look at the current roster. Between some possible cuts or trades of Harris and Reiff and a whole bunch of nobodies at the bottom of the roster it looks to me that we could maybe roster all or close to all of the picks coming today.

Someone posted yesterday a tweet from Tomasson / Pio Press that we have sixty guys on the roster and need 90 ....

and day 3 picks don't count against the salary cap.

I think that's probably an important part of Spielman's approach.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:51:25 AM   
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I was busy and didn't hardly pay attention to the draft last night.

Sounds like 7th rd Rick was up to his usual trade down BS. After reading some of the comments I'm kind of glad I didn't watch that would have been extremely frustrating.

A lot of really good players came off the board in rd 2.

KG- what was with Josh Jones? fell all the way to like 72. Hope Cleveland is better than him.

I would have preferred Jones. The Vikings preferred Cleveland. I'm happy with the pick.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:51:57 AM   
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I'm very intrigued by Kenny Robinson the Safety from the XFL. I hope he's on our radar for today.


After reading his story I think it would be a great pick. Seems mature and speaks well.



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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:52:19 AM   
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I can't wait to see some Gladney. Watching a DB not only be close to his guy when the ball is there but actually be able to track the ball.
2 things that were missing with Rhodes and Waynes respectively.

My favorite pick so far.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:52:35 AM   
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Tyler Johnson definitely but not too soon. He’s going to be a nice receiver for somebody but he can probably be had in the 5th round.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 9:59:12 AM   
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I'm disappointed we couldn't convert our draft capital into another second or third rounder ... but NOT missing out on DT Gallimore or someother 2nd day prospect is not going to make or break our draft.

After looking at espn's best available ... there is still a big grab bag of intriguing players.

My favorites for day 3:

S/CB L'Jarius Sneed, Louisiana Tech (6-1 / 192) – Good size and length, ran a 4.37 40, jumped 41” and broad jumped 131” at the combine. Not a physical tackler but off the charts athleticism and quality ball skills could see him move back to CB in nfl.

S Josh Metellus, Michigan (5-10 / 209) – Metellus is a well-built safety with longer arms, big hands and average top-end speed. He masks OK burst and fluidity with physicality, instincts and length in coverage. Metellus has very good ball skills. He's a willing run defender and sure tackler.

DT Rashard Lawrence, LSU (6-2 / 308) – 3 time team captain has low center of gravity but tracks the ball well, flashes abilty to make plays in backfield; very good top end speed, upper body strength and powerful hands needs; to develop counter moves.

DE James Lynch, Baylor (6-4 / 289) – Good at setting the edge but a better pass rusher from the inside. marginal speed but ultra feisty and productive.

OG Ben Bartch, St. John's (MN) (6-6 / 309) – TE moved to LT; only played 2 seasons so developing technique but very athletic and an overpowering run blocker on tape; impressed at the Senior Bowl. Some people think he projects to G in NFL.

OG Saahdiq Charles, LSU (6-4 / 321) – Charles is strong run-blocker who moves well climbing to the second level. He's a developmental prospect who is physically gifted but has shorter arms for a tackle and has a lot of work to do with his overall technique. Charles primarily lined up at left tackle, but he also started games at right tackle and guard.

OG Jon Runyan, Michigan (6-4 / 306) – Runyan started at left tackle the past two seasons, but he has also played right tackle and right guard. He has below-average length for a tackle and projects best at guard. He tested well in areas that correlate with success for interior offensive linemen at the combine. His 40 time, short shuttle and broad jump results were all above-average for a guard.

OG John Simpson, Clemson (6-4 / 321) – Tough big guard with long arms and slightly above-average movement. He has the quickness, length and wide frame to compete but struggles to mirror in pass pro. He's an average positional blocker who takes sound angles in the run game.

WR Tyler Johnson, Minnesota (6-1 206) – Refined route runner who knows how to separate. He turns into a running back after the catch. He doesn't have great speed. He has smaller hands and there are a lot of drops on tape, but he's still been one of the most productive receivers in college football the past two seasons.

WR/KR/ST Joe Reed Virginia (6-1 / 224) – Lines up everywhere including the backfield. Route running needs improvement but explosive player – one of the most dangerous KR in college. Reed also finished with 17 Tackles in college – very good covering kicks.


TE Mitchell Wilcox, South Florida (6-4 / 247) – Less-than-ideal length and timed speed but he’s good at finding holes in zones and very tough over the middle. Real edgy guy that fires up team. If he can bulk up and get stronger, could replace Morgan (slightly less of a blocker, slightly better pass catcher).[/color]

TE Colby Parkinson, Stanford (6-7 / 252) – Big target, makes catches over the middle, fast enough to make plays down the seam; competitive blocker.

SIZE OR SPEED OR ATHLETICISM GUYS (I.E., PURE DEVELOPMENTAL)

DE Tipa Galeai, Utah State (6-5 / 235) – Lean edge defender with good length and explosive get-off, bend and closing speed to develop into a disruptive edge rusher. He flashes the ability to stack blockers but gives ground and is a better pass-rusher than run defender. Needs to fill out and get stronger.

DE Alton Robinson, Syracuse (6-3 / 264) – above-average initial quickness, and he ran the third-fastest 40 out of all the defensive linemen at the combine. Disruptive run defender who has the ability to slip blocks and closes well chasing from the backside. Room for improvement when it comes to getting off blocks.

OT Alex Taylor, South Carolina State (6-8 / 308) – Taylor is a tall and lean offensive tackle with excellent upside. He has outstanding arm length and borderline outstanding initial quickness. He can be dominant on tape but is not a finished product.

WR Quez Watkins, Southern Mississippi (6-0 / 185) – Watkins ran the third-fastest 40 at the combine, and his playing speed matches his timed speed. Also returns kicks. Hands are inconsistent and needs to get better at winning 50-50 balls.

WR Collin Johnson, Texas(6-6 / 222) Great big target with average speed and natural hands / body control; not an explosive route runner

TE Albert Okwuegbunam, Missouri (6-6 / 258) great size and athleticism but hasn’t produced squat.

TE Stephen Sullivan, LSU (6-5 / 248) – Production and tape never matched talent at LSU but Sullivan has an exceptional combination of size, length and speed. He had the longest arms and tied for the second-fastest 40-yard dash time of all the tight ends at the combine.

Good list, but Missing Weaver, Biadasz, and K'von Wallace.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 10:00:46 AM   
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Tyler Johnson definitely but not too soon. He’s going to be a nice receiver for somebody but he can probably be had in the 5th round.

I doubt it. However, if we get him in the 5th you are a genius. Hope you are right.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 10:00:49 AM   
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Just my opinion, but, I believe this could be one of those strange seasons when you get a lot of great players after the third round. Whether it's the COVID-19 effect or whatever, some of the players that got drafted should not have been drafted that early. You've got guys getting drafted from LSU and Bama right now that are generally 4th-6th round picks. It's almost as if the scouts have been paralyzed and are just running on instincts. Most of these houses look like nothing more than my fantasy football draft.


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There are some really good football programs that had one or no players taken. Stanford had a very poor year, but I can't remember the last time Stanford or Wisconsin didn't have an offensive lineman drafted in the first three rounds. Boston College always seems to have a few as well. Nobody from Oklahoma State, Washington or Michigan State? U of Miami? North Carolina? Florida State? BYU, Pitt or Purdue?


Yeah. I see what you are saying.

The scouts and GMs screwed up in the first 3 rounds of the draft because they just drafted blindly from the best college power programs coming off winning seasons.

And that the scouts and GMs would do better for the balance of the draft by just drafting blindly from the best college power programs coming off losing seasons.

Perfect example was Jacob Phillips (LSU) in the third round (Browns). Here is a draft profile created by one resource.

Football IQ - Slow processor that doesn't anticipate gaps to shoot or quickly transition into scrape or drops. He's often caught flowing away from the ball and is late to redirect himself. Lacks confidence in space to carry routes and doesn't appear to illustrate desirable peripheral vision.

Tackling - He's pretty stout here. Good short area burst and possesses plenty of upper body strength to wrap up and finish. He'll bring the feet through contact and finish sufficiently. His iso reps in the alley can be hit or miss just because he's prone to catching when he knows he's one on one.

Block Shedding - He's offered some fair reps in both stacking blocks with his hands or plugging up gaps with hips pads. His lateral mobility isn't great to pull off and disengage. He's not fluid enough to consistently peel off of blockers and uncover in the hole.

Competitive Toughness - His effort is strong. Appreciate his linear burst and flow to try to rally to the football. Definitely a try hard who will make second effort plays if he's able. His functional strength is adequate and he's got some short area coil to him that allows him to deliver blows to ball carriers or blockers.

Lateral Mobility - He's not great here, namely because he's got some tightness in the hips when trying to hinge and fly open to the sideline. He's slow to process too and as a result he'll often overrun by opening his strides and trying to work back into the hip of the ball carrier on outside runs.

Coverage Skills - Needs a lot of work here. He offers almost zero feel for routes carried into his space and doesn't hinge and open to shade his landmarks as routes peel around him in the peripherals. Doesn't have dynamic athleticism in the open space to lengthen himself and challenge the football while it is in the air.

Gap Shooting Ability - Rarely, if ever, takes a gap as it develops in front of his face. There's are ample opportunities for him to attack, play forward and make splash plays but he either doesn't see them or doesn't attack them by choice. Backfield production isn't going to be an area he contributes without a lot of work.

Feet/COD - He's a bit duck footed and he'll often hop into his redirections in order to gather his momentum. There's issues with constant redirections and that makes him a pretty easy target to pick up angles for when you're looking to attack him on the second level. Stale laterally.

Flexibility - Restricted in lateral scenarios or in zone drops to adequately get depth off the LOS. There's a lot of issues with his hip/pad level in stance, too — there's problems with keeping his center of gravity low, which further complicates his ability to redirect and change directions with quickness.

First Step Explosiveness - If you ask him to trigger down hill or in a straight line, you actually get pretty solid results. He's got some spring and can open his strides to eat up turf. Don't get him flat footed or he'll struggle to build up speed but when he's seeing a play develop and gets himself aligned he can cover some significant ground.

Summary - Jacob Phillips projects as a depth player and developmental linebacker at the NFL level. Phillips struggles with consistently processing action in the backfield and too often looks lost on the second level. Without high end anticipation and with only modest redirection and scrape ability, Phillips is going to need significant development to reach starting caliber. Instead, he can be utilized in kick coverage, where his straight line speed and viable tackling habits can make positive contributions.

- No. 196 prospect overall and No. 17 linebacker – CBSSports.com

- No. 179 prospect overall – The Draft Network

- No. 232 prospect overall and No. 7 inside linebacker – ESPN.com

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/25/2020 10:08:57 AM   
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This actually makes some sense.

TRENT WILLIAMS
T, WASHINGTON REDSKINS

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Redskins LT Trent Williams declined the team's proposed trade to the Vikings.
Vikings added a first-round talent, Ezra Cleveland, to shore up Kirk Cousins' blindside in the second round of Saturday's festivities, leading Williams to reportedly nix any movement to Minnesota in the process. Whether the Vikings have done well in the draft (and they have through two nights) is a moot point as their organization was realistically one of the last remaining suitors for 31-year-old Williams to land with. At this point, it can't be completely thrown out that he steps away from football entirely in 2020. There's no conclusion to report as long as Williams refuses to play for Washington and, on the other end of the spectrum, other franchises refuse to give in to his lucrative demands. He remains up for grabs as one of the best left tackles in all of football.

RELATED: Ezra Cleveland, Minnesota Vikings
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 25, 2020, 1:32 AM ET

Williams was on board with a trade to the Vikings until we drafted Cleveland. All of a sudden he no longer wants to come here. He may have wanted to save face by saying he didn't want to go here when the Vikings had already lost interest.

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