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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 2:04:52 PM

Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Regarding to how the Vikings are seeing the wide receivers in the draft:

They've done homework on all of them! Hard to know what is true and what is a smokescreen. I can't claim to have how their board is stacked!

(Darren Wolfson on Twitter)

My question would be did they simply not do their homework on Treadwell?

Let’s hope they’ve put somebody else on the wide receiver room this draft.

No doubt.

What about oline homework? Beavers!

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 2:37:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Regarding to how the Vikings are seeing the wide receivers in the draft:

They've done homework on all of them! Hard to know what is true and what is a smokescreen. I can't claim to have how their board is stacked!

(Darren Wolfson on Twitter)

My question would be did they simply not do their homework on Treadwell?

Let’s hope they’ve put somebody else on the wide receiver room this draft.

No doubt.

What about oline homework? Beavers!

When I go back and look at the hype for that year, nobody thought he would be a bust. Most everyone had him in the late first early second. That shit happens, the hype gets out there, the top receivers are gone, we needed a guy and he was in that next lump of guys. We just took the wrong one, happens to teams all the time. He could become a solid possession type receiver, 3 or 4 guy, but he was a bust for a first round pick. It happens, we could spend two days going over all the first round flops in this league, just like we can marvel at all the 5th round studs. what do they call it, "a crap shoot?"

Hell, there were more then a few guys here (many not around these days) that raised an eyebrow when we took Harrison Smith all those years back. We hit on more firsts than we don't, the player has a part in this too.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 2:45:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

"MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1."

This rings true considering the Vikings immediate needs and how their offense is structured. It's not our top priority and WR's usually take longer to make an impact that other positions. Just because we lost a star WR doesn't mean we need to take one in the first round. That line of thinking nets you Christian Ponder.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 2:57:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

"MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1."

This rings true considering the Vikings immediate needs and how their offense is structured. It's not our top priority and WR's usually take longer to make an impact that other positions. Just because we lost a star WR doesn't mean we need to take one in the first round. That line of thinking nets you Christian Ponder.

... or Troy Williamson. I have read a lot of assessments that say that the drop off from the first to the second tiers of receivers is very small. Some reports even say teams could wind up drafting starting receivers in the 4th round. Mind you, I'm not advocating waiting until the 4th round, but the Vikings should be able to draft a good receiver in the second or trade back in the first round and get one.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:02:35 PM

Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Regarding to how the Vikings are seeing the wide receivers in the draft:

They've done homework on all of them! Hard to know what is true and what is a smokescreen. I can't claim to have how their board is stacked!

(Darren Wolfson on Twitter)

My question would be did they simply not do their homework on Treadwell?

Let’s hope they’ve put somebody else on the wide receiver room this draft.

No doubt.

What about oline homework? Beavers!

When I go back and look at the hype for that year, nobody thought he would be a bust. Most everyone had him in the late first early second. That shit happens, the hype gets out there, the top receivers are gone, we needed a guy and he was in that next lump of guys. We just took the wrong one, happens to teams all the time. He could become a solid possession type receiver, 3 or 4 guy, but he was a bust for a first round pick. It happens, we could spend two days going over all the first round flops in this league, just like we can marvel at all the 5th round studs. what do they call it, "a crap shoot?" Hell, there were more then a few guys here (many not around these days) that raised an eyebrow when we took Harrison Smith all those years back. We hit on more firsts than we don't, the player has a part in this too.

In all fairness every team that took a 1st rd wr that year took the wrong one. All four were busts while Michael Thomas is tearing it up.

Nonetheless Treadwell had red flags and never belonged in the 1st rd.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:04:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

"MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1."

This rings true considering the Vikings immediate needs and how their offense is structured. It's not our top priority and WR's usually take longer to make an impact that other positions. Just because we lost a star WR doesn't mean we need to take one in the first round. That line of thinking nets you Christian Ponder.

You build a team from the inside out. We simply got manhandled in the trenches last year.

This should be the #1 priority.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:13:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

His big board didn't have many corners. Gladney was the third.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:17:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

"MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1."

This rings true considering the Vikings immediate needs and how their offense is structured. It's not our top priority and WR's usually take longer to make an impact that other positions. Just because we lost a star WR doesn't mean we need to take one in the first round. That line of thinking nets you Christian Ponder.

You build a team from the inside out. We simply got manhandled in the trenches last year.

This should be the #1 priority.

Udoh strikes me as someone who will not be manhandled. His presence at guard may help Bradbury, too.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:27:02 PM

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My tentative top ten 2020 iOL:

1. Cezar Ruiz (late 1)
2. Lloyd Cushenburry III (2)
3. Jonah Jackson (2)
4. Damien Lewis (early 3)
5. Matt Hennessy (early 3)
6. Robert Hunt (3)
7. Tyler Biadasz (3)
8. Logan Stern (late 3)
9. Shane Lemieux (late 3)
10. Solomon Kindley (4)

(Optimistic Vikings fan on Twitter)

Nice list Bruce....Would want at least one of the top seven. hoping for at least 2 out of our 12 picks.

Of the top OGs remember the Zone Blocking scheme. From all I hear Lewis can't play that. Everyone else is pretty good for it except the last three that I know nothing about.

Biadasz either.

I've read that Biadasz would be a good fit for Zone. I think. I'll double check the reports.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:29:38 PM

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Walter Football has the best mock I've seen on YouTube easy. They use common sense and logic. Two things that are usually lacking in a YouTube mock. I think we will like the players they come up with for us also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLqMikvy7M

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:39:32 PM

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Speaking of mocks, here's the latest from PFF.

https://youtu.be/yDNP_CWS1jE

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 3:54:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

My tentative top ten 2020 iOL:

1. Cezar Ruiz (late 1)
2. Lloyd Cushenburry III (2)
3. Jonah Jackson (2)
4. Damien Lewis (early 3)
5. Matt Hennessy (early 3)
6. Robert Hunt (3)
7. Tyler Biadasz (3)
8. Logan Stern (late 3)
9. Shane Lemieux (late 3)
10. Solomon Kindley (4)

(Optimistic Vikings fan on Twitter)

Nice list Bruce....Would want at least one of the top seven. hoping for at least 2 out of our 12 picks.

Of the top OGs remember the Zone Blocking scheme. From all I hear Lewis can't play that. Everyone else is pretty good for it except the last three that I know nothing about.

Biadasz either.

I've read that Biadasz would be a good fit for Zone. I think. I'll double check the reports.

Badger oline strike me more as maulers but tbh I don't know what scheme they employ.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 4:00:10 PM

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Speaking of mocks, here's the latest from PFF.

https://youtu.be/yDNP_CWS1jE

Reagor and Johnson good players. I wouldn't complain if that was how it shakes out, but I would like to see a oline/cb combo with our first two.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 4:15:44 PM

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Speaking of mocks, here's the latest from PFF.

https://youtu.be/yDNP_CWS1jE

Reagor and Johnson good players. I wouldn't complain if that was how it shakes out, but I would like to see a oline/cb combo with our first two.

I don't like it

Reager looks like a one trick pony that could hide behind a flag pole and Johnson, despite what the author states is not a Zimmer-like cb.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 4:59:01 PM

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Speaking of receivers, Mel Kyper has his top 25 big board (especially interesting for us because we have two picks in top 25) and there are five receivers on it. Number four is someone that nobody here is talking about- the one out of Clemson. (Tee Higgins) Anybody here think he would look good in Purple? He is tall and very good at catching the contested passes and has enough speed to stretch the defenses. I don't know. I see others rating him lower.

https://www.detroitlions.com/news/meet-the-prospect-tee-higgins

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 5:10:40 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

Here's the Vikings Report from that link.

MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1.

I was with him when he said might not draft a receiver on day one. He lost me when he said we would attack the D Line. I would only do that if Kinlaw or some other outrageous value fell to us.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 5:15:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Speaking of mocks, here's the latest from PFF.

https://youtu.be/yDNP_CWS1jE

Reagor and Johnson good players. I wouldn't complain if that was how it shakes out, but I would like to see a oline/cb combo with our first two.

I don't like it

Reager looks like a one trick pony that could hide behind a flag pole and Johnson, despite what the author states is not a Zimmer-like cb.

I'm with Joe on this one. I'm not saying it sounds ideal, but I wouldn't complain. Reagor is very impressive on video. I will try to find some game film that shows the good, the bad and the ugly and see if I have the same opinion. Johnson I have heard great things about. I will check game film on him as well.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 5:17:25 PM

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Speaking of receivers, Mel Kyper has his top 25 big board (especially interesting for us because we have two picks in top 25) and there are five receivers on it. Number four is someone that nobody here is talking about- the one out of Clemson. (Tee Higgins) Anybody here think he would look good in Purple? He is tall and very good at catching the contested passes and has enough speed to stretch the defenses. I don't know. I see others rating him lower.

https://www.detroitlions.com/news/meet-the-prospect-tee-higgins

My snap judgment is that I don't like Higgins. I will look into him more. Draft is coming soon. Have to have eyewitness of these players rather than going just on what I read.
Edit: Found this on Higgins.

Name: Tee Higgins

Position: Wide receiver

School: Clemson

Ht/Wt: 6-4/216

40-yard dash: 4.54 (pro day)

Bench: Did not bench

Vertical: 31 inches (pro day)

Broad: 123.0 (pro day)

3-cone: Did not run

20-yard shuttle: 4.25 (pro day)

Pro days are typically a tenth of a second faster than combine so Higgins might be a 4.64 WR which is LaQuon Treadwell speed.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:11:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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Speaking of receivers, Mel Kyper has his top 25 big board (especially interesting for us because we have two picks in top 25) and there are five receivers on it. Number four is someone that nobody here is talking about- the one out of Clemson. (Tee Higgins) Anybody here think he would look good in Purple? He is tall and very good at catching the contested passes and has enough speed to stretch the defenses. I don't know. I see others rating him lower.

https://www.detroitlions.com/news/meet-the-prospect-tee-higgins

My snap judgment is that I don't like Higgins. I will look into him more. Draft is coming soon. Have to have eyewitness of these players rather than going just on what I read.
Edit: Found this on Higgins.

Name: Tee Higgins

Position: Wide receiver

School: Clemson

Ht/Wt: 6-4/216

40-yard dash: 4.54 (pro day)

Bench: Did not bench

Vertical: 31 inches (pro day)

Broad: 123.0 (pro day)

3-cone: Did not run

20-yard shuttle: 4.25 (pro day)

Pro days are typically a tenth of a second faster than combine so Higgins might be a 4.64 WR which is LaQuon Treadwell speed.

I'm kind of just doing the due diligence. He looks a lot like Treadwell to me, too. Your point is well taken. 6'4" is a pretty big target for the red zone. Personally, I would like to see a YAC guy. That's what I'm going to keep repeating.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:27:31 PM

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I was arguing the merits of trading up for a QB with people at another message board. I found a link about success and failure of positions drafted in the first round. It's pretty good.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/244 ... -nfl-draft

First round QBs have a 5% chance of being all pro. WRs a 15% chance. Best is linebackers having 26% chance. A first round QB has a 1 in 20 chance at being all pro. So if we draft QB in the first round for the next 20 years odds are one will be all pro. Now that's a little cherry picking because first round QBs have a 40% chance of making a pro bowl some time in their career which is better than WRs at 30%. Then again the designated bust rate on 1st round QBs is 40% while WRs are 30%. Centers almost never bust at only 8%. Hopefully Bradbury doesn't buck that trend.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:28:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Speaking of receivers, Mel Kyper has his top 25 big board (especially interesting for us because we have two picks in top 25) and there are five receivers on it. Number four is someone that nobody here is talking about- the one out of Clemson. (Tee Higgins) Anybody here think he would look good in Purple? He is tall and very good at catching the contested passes and has enough speed to stretch the defenses. I don't know. I see others rating him lower.

https://www.detroitlions.com/news/meet-the-prospect-tee-higgins

My snap judgment is that I don't like Higgins. I will look into him more. Draft is coming soon. Have to have eyewitness of these players rather than going just on what I read.
Edit: Found this on Higgins.

Name: Tee Higgins

Position: Wide receiver

School: Clemson

Ht/Wt: 6-4/216

40-yard dash: 4.54 (pro day)

Bench: Did not bench

Vertical: 31 inches (pro day)

Broad: 123.0 (pro day)

3-cone: Did not run

20-yard shuttle: 4.25 (pro day)

Pro days are typically a tenth of a second faster than combine so Higgins might be a 4.64 WR which is LaQuon Treadwell speed.

I'm kind of just doing the due diligence. He looks a lot like Treadwell to me, too. Your point is well taken. 6'4" is a pretty big target for the red zone. Personally, I would like to see a YAC guy. That's what I'm going to keep repeating.

Who are the best YAC guys?

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:42:10 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

"MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1."

This rings true considering the Vikings immediate needs and how their offense is structured. It's not our top priority and WR's usually take longer to make an impact that other positions. Just because we lost a star WR doesn't mean we need to take one in the first round. That line of thinking nets you Christian Ponder.

The only way we get Pondered on a 1st round WR this year is by being stupid. There are so many good ones to choose from.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:44:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Regarding to how the Vikings are seeing the wide receivers in the draft:

They've done homework on all of them! Hard to know what is true and what is a smokescreen. I can't claim to have how their board is stacked!

(Darren Wolfson on Twitter)

My question would be did they simply not do their homework on Treadwell?

Let’s hope they’ve put somebody else on the wide receiver room this draft.

No doubt.

What about oline homework? Beavers!

When I go back and look at the hype for that year, nobody thought he would be a bust. Most everyone had him in the late first early second. That shit happens, the hype gets out there, the top receivers are gone, we needed a guy and he was in that next lump of guys. We just took the wrong one, happens to teams all the time. He could become a solid possession type receiver, 3 or 4 guy, but he was a bust for a first round pick. It happens, we could spend two days going over all the first round flops in this league, just like we can marvel at all the 5th round studs. what do they call it, "a crap shoot?" Hell, there were more then a few guys here (many not around these days) that raised an eyebrow when we took Harrison Smith all those years back. We hit on more firsts than we don't, the player has a part in this too.

In all fairness every team that took a 1st rd wr that year took the wrong one. All four were busts while Michael Thomas is tearing it up.

Nonetheless Treadwell had red flags and never belonged in the 1st rd.

Who got raked over the coals for calling out every weakness in Treadwell's game on draft night?

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:46:51 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884704-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Interesting read.

"MINNESOTA: With two first-rounders, the Vikings are heavily expected to draft a wide receiver early, but I continue to hear this might not be a Day 1 priority. In a historically deep receiver class, there is a belief among league insiders that the Vikings could wait for a receiver and attack the defensive and offensive lines in Round 1."

This rings true considering the Vikings immediate needs and how their offense is structured. It's not our top priority and WR's usually take longer to make an impact that other positions. Just because we lost a star WR doesn't mean we need to take one in the first round. That line of thinking nets you Christian Ponder.

You build a team from the inside out. We simply got manhandled in the trenches last year.

This should be the #1 priority.

I don't think our defensive trenches were bad last year. We had bad moments, but not bad overall. That's just my impression. I don't know what the stats say.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/3/2020 6:46:54 PM

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Speaking of receivers, Mel Kyper has his top 25 big board (especially interesting for us because we have two picks in top 25) and there are five receivers on it. Number four is someone that nobody here is talking about- the one out of Clemson. (Tee Higgins) Anybody here think he would look good in Purple? He is tall and very good at catching the contested passes and has enough speed to stretch the defenses. I don't know. I see others rating him lower.

https://www.detroitlions.com/news/meet-the-prospect-tee-higgins

My snap judgment is that I don't like Higgins. I will look into him more. Draft is coming soon. Have to have eyewitness of these players rather than going just on what I read.
Edit: Found this on Higgins.

Name: Tee Higgins

Position: Wide receiver

School: Clemson

Ht/Wt: 6-4/216

40-yard dash: 4.54 (pro day)

Bench: Did not bench

Vertical: 31 inches (pro day)

Broad: 123.0 (pro day)

3-cone: Did not run

20-yard shuttle: 4.25 (pro day)

Pro days are typically a tenth of a second faster than combine so Higgins might be a 4.64 WR which is LaQuon Treadwell speed.

I'm kind of just doing the due diligence. He looks a lot like Treadwell to me, too. Your point is well taken. 6'4" is a pretty big target for the red zone. Personally, I would like to see a YAC guy. That's what I'm going to keep repeating.

Who are the best YAC guys?

The best is Ruggs, of course. (4.27 40) He will be gone. After him it's not clear. Jefferson would be second probably. He'll be gone too, most likely.

Reagor would be good. So would Aiyuk, Hamler, Claypool, and Mims. All of those guys had fast times and will be available in rounds one, two and possibly three. I'm going to say those five guys are the ones I would prefer assuming other receivers are gone early.

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