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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 10:54:32 AM

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Here are some details about the trade. I actually think it was an ugly trade for both teams. Lots of dead money for the Rams.

https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2020/4/9/21215748/brandin-cooks-trade-rams-salary-cap-contract-texans

Watson is a MUCH BETTER QB than Goff. Cooks could have a resurgence.

He probably will to some degree... but do you trade Hopkins for Cooks?
Not me.

No, but don't forget they don't have to pay Hopkins and they got a washed up overpaid RB in the deal. Or they could have done nothing and used the money they now have to pay Johnson to pay Hopkins.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 12:21:41 PM

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Cooks to Texans

Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft?

O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him.

Hamler can't catch, though. Read any profile and that's a prominent feature. He just doesn't have the hands.

If I remember Cooks having the dropsies also...

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 12:41:14 PM

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Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft?

O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him.

Hamler can't catch, though. Read any profile and that's a prominent feature. He just doesn't have the hands.

Hamler is a smaller version of Troy Williamson. If you're going to pick a Big Ten receiver, I would take Tyler Johnson every day of the week on twice on Sundays over Hamler.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 1:22:55 PM

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Cooks to Texans

Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft?

O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him.

Hamler can't catch, though. Read any profile and that's a prominent feature. He just doesn't have the hands.

Hamler is a smaller version of Troy Williamson. If you're going to pick a Big Ten receiver, I would take Tyler Johnson every day of the week on twice on Sundays over Hamler.

I hadn't heard about Hamler having bad hands, but I haven't looked into him much yet. I'm willing to bet he has a much better career than Williamson. He's fast, but not as fast as Williamson. Williamson was Ruggs type fast.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 3:03:09 PM

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Cooks to Texans

Do trades start heating up now with 2 weeks left before Draft?

O'Brien is such an idiot...8 Million to a player with 5 concussions...he is 5' 9".....Probably 4-5 WR at that 2nd pick available that are better. The fast Penn St. kid is the same player, Hamler. 5'9" blazing speed....watch the Rams draft him.

Hamler can't catch, though. Read any profile and that's a prominent feature. He just doesn't have the hands.

Hamler is a smaller version of Troy Williamson. If you're going to pick a Big Ten receiver, I would take Tyler Johnson every day of the week on twice on Sundays over Hamler.

I hadn't heard about Hamler having bad hands, but I haven't looked into him much yet. I'm willing to bet he has a much better career than Williamson. He's fast, but not as fast as Williamson. Williamson was Ruggs type fast.

That is the knock on him. That and his small size. To me he seems more as a kickoff return guy (I wouldn't trust him with punts) and gadget plays. I guess we had a guy like that here who just got himself awarded as the special team player of the decade. (Patterson) Here's a highlight video. A lot of them are kickoff return highlights.

http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/players/kj-hamler

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 3:35:32 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884200-tcus-jalen-reagor-on-why-guerilla-training-will-make-him-the-drafts-best-wr

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 5:23:04 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884200-tcus-jalen-reagor-on-why-guerilla-training-will-make-him-the-drafts-best-wr

I never come away from reading about Reagor feeling encouraged about his prospects, but he always seems to show up high in the rankings. Drops, weak production in a weak conference defensively...he sounds like a good kid and a hard worker so I want to like him more, but he SOUNDS an echelon below Jefferson, Mims, Aiyuck, even Pittman. But who knows?

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 5:32:57 PM

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2884200-tcus-jalen-reagor-on-why-guerilla-training-will-make-him-the-drafts-best-wr

I never come away from reading about Reagor feeling encouraged about his prospects, but he always seems to show up high in the rankings. Drops, weak production in a weak conference defensively...he sounds like a good kid and a hard worker so I want to like him more, but he SOUNDS an echelon below Jefferson, Mims, Aiyuck, even Pittman. But who knows?

Everybody who's seen him play says he is open on almost every play. His production was fine the year before when he had an OK QB. The freshman running QB has been a disaster. Drops aren't really a problem. He drops a few and he makes some amazing catches. Ruggs had very little production. Nobody is downgrading him for that.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 6:03:27 PM

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I was wondering why his production dropped.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 6:38:21 PM

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Unless they trade up, the Rams aren't going to have a 1st round pick for five straight drafts

I'm too lazy to check if that's a record, but it's probably a record.

(Mike Renner on Twitter)

He amended that the Redskins once went 7 years straight during the George Allen days.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 6:53:27 PM

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Jaylon Johnson could be the guy at CB.

https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1248702723559763969?s=09

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 9:09:13 PM

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TCU WR Jalen Reagor saw a catchable pass on just 61.4% of targets.

That ranked 118th among 120 wideouts. https://t.co/GH4bFH32Xy

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 9:19:49 PM

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TCU WR Jalen Reagor saw a catchable pass on just 61.4% of targets.

That ranked 118th among 120 wideouts. https://t.co/GH4bFH32Xy

That's the opposite of good.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/10/2020 11:35:37 PM

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TCU WR Jalen Reagor saw a catchable pass on just 61.4% of targets.

That ranked 118th among 120 wideouts. https://t.co/GH4bFH32Xy

That's the opposite of good.

Reagor is becoming one of my picks at either (Preferably 25)

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 6:18:19 AM

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If we don't get the speedy receiver early, perhaps we get one later with the second receiver taken. This one would fit the bill. He was the number four receiver at LSU, so he didn't get much opportunity to shine. Of course LSU had two receivers who will be first round draft picks.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1248616058430226433

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 6:58:00 AM

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Don’t sleep on Damon Armette to the Vikings in the 1st. He’s a Zimmer type of boundary corner. Physical in press, disciplined, rarely out of phase, willing tackler against the run.

CBs have to be able to muscle WRs into sidelines or they won’t survive there. Arnette can do that.

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Ludford says it makes sense, except not in the first round.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:05:12 AM

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This one has a diagram, so I will just link the tweet. It's about a comparison with Mims and Treadwell.

https://twitter.com/JViking5/status/1248686809879543819?s=20

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:09:14 AM

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Reagor did his own personal Pro Day and here is a video of it. The dude is fast.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1248796147591888897

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:12:15 AM

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Here's a summary of the Texans trade activity for the last couple of years or so. It doesn't seem to me that they know what they are doing.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1248394093538856962?s=20

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:22:11 AM

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This one has a diagram, so I will just link the tweet. It's about a comparison with Mims and Treadwell.

https://twitter.com/JViking5/status/1248686809879543819?s=20

There is no comparison. Tee Higgins there is comparison.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:25:29 AM

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Reagor did his own personal Pro Day and here is a video of it. The dude is fast.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1248796147591888897

Never trust Pro Day 40 times, but adding the usual 1/10th second he's running somewhere in the 4.3s.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:54:42 AM

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This one has a diagram, so I will just link the tweet. It's about a comparison with Mims and Treadwell.

https://twitter.com/JViking5/status/1248686809879543819?s=20

There is no comparison. Tee Higgins there is comparison.

Tee Higgins and Treadwell, you mean. I agree. Still, I thought it was interesting.

An even more interesting comparison might be Mims and Reagor. Those two guys are not the same by any means. Mims is taller and Reagor is probably faster. They are both fast. It's a good question over who to choose between the two of them.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 7:56:20 AM

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Unless we trade up for one of the Big 3 (Ruggs, Lamb, Jeudy), the only 1st round WRs for us are probably Jefferson or Reagor.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 8:02:51 AM

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Unless we trade up for one of the Big 3 (Ruggs, Lamb, Jeudy), the only 1st round WRs for us are probably Jefferson or Reagor.

If we do have a trade with Willliams in our back pocket, do you still draft an offensive lineman in the first round? Perhaps for the center guard out of Michigan? Or would you double up on cornerbacks? (If Jefferson and Reagor are gone)

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/11/2020 8:17:15 AM

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Unless we trade up for one of the Big 3 (Ruggs, Lamb, Jeudy), the only 1st round WRs for us are probably Jefferson or Reagor.

If we do have a trade with Willliams in our back pocket, do you still draft an offensive lineman in the first round? Perhaps for the center guard out of Michigan? Or would you double up on cornerbacks? (If Jefferson and Reagor are gone)