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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

What is the primary characteristic needed? IMO he doesn't have to be Diggs II.

Field stretcher?
Possession guy?

But embedded in all that is
Can he get open?
Can he catch?

What about route running?

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Unless we trade up for one of the Big 3 (Ruggs, Lamb, Jeudy), the only 1st round WRs for us are probably Jefferson or Reagor.

Why not Mims?

I would not fault the Vikings for selecting Mims in the first at all. My preference is to trade back from 25 to perhaps Green Bay believe it or not and get picks 30 and 62. We probably have to throw in 105. If not Green Bay maybe the Bengals for 33 and 65. We should be able to get one of those WRs or a great corner at either of those picks plus get another mid day 2 pick as a bonus. I'm loving it.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Here is one man's corner ranking. It seems that there are ten good ones.

CB Rankings:

1. Jeff Okudah
2. CJ Henderson
3. Kristian Fulton
4. Jeff Gladney
5. AJ Terrell
6. Noah Igbinoghene
7. Jaylon Johnson
8. Trevon Diggs
9. Damon Arnette
10. Amik Robertson

(Irv Smith, Jr. The Goat on Twitter)

Diggs seems like he is sliding out of the 1st rd for some reason.

I read the Vikings took him off their board but i imagine the guy was just speculating.

There are plenty of good CBs so I don't see how the Vikings could possibly consider Trevon Diggs. He was actively pushing his brother away from the Vikings every step of the way. Bad Blood.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The article says Vikes fans won't be happy with no OL, but I see this as a 'realistic' draft with subbing out the edge rusher in the third with OL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-sports-illustrated-five-round-mock-draft

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The article says Vikes fans won't be happy with no OL, but I see this as a 'realistic' draft with subbing out the edge rusher in the third with OL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-sports-illustrated-five-round-mock-draft

I agree in that I like the draft as well as any, but also in that it may well be that the Vikings feel better about where they are with OL than the fans/analysts do. There is also a need at safety, either for depth or, if Harris goes, for a starter and depth. As far as I can tell, there are no safeties on the roster other than Smith and Harris.

The actual draft may shock/horrify fans.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Here is one man's corner ranking. It seems that there are ten good ones.

CB Rankings:

1. Jeff Okudah
2. CJ Henderson
3. Kristian Fulton
4. Jeff Gladney
5. AJ Terrell
6. Noah Igbinoghene
7. Jaylon Johnson
8. Trevon Diggs
9. Damon Arnette
10. Amik Robertson

(Irv Smith, Jr. The Goat on Twitter)

Diggs seems like he is sliding out of the 1st rd for some reason.

I read the Vikings took him off their board but i imagine the guy was just speculating.

There are plenty of good CBs so I don't see how the Vikings could possibly consider Trevon Diggs. He was actively pushing his brother away from the Vikings every step of the way. Bad Blood.

Where did you hear that?

I remember reading that Trevon said he knows exactly how to shut Stephon down in coverage.

Trevon is a big corner and would fit nicely in to our scheme.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The article says Vikes fans won't be happy with no OL, but I see this as a 'realistic' draft with subbing out the edge rusher in the third with OL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-sports-illustrated-five-round-mock-draft

I agree in that I like the draft as well as any, but also in that it may well be that the Vikings feel better about where they are with OL than the fans/analysts do. There is also a need at safety, either for depth or, if Harris goes, for a starter and depth. As far as I can tell, there are no safeties on the roster other than Smith and Harris.

The actual draft may shock/horrify fans.

I think your comment is spot on.

Given the weird conditions this year, I think its going to be a wild ride with teams differing more widely from the pundits than usual.

The more fans obsess over media rankings, the more they'll be disappointed.

Prospects with medical concerns like WR Ay-ay-ay-yuck are going to really drop as well.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The article says Vikes fans won't be happy with no OL, but I see this as a 'realistic' draft with subbing out the edge rusher in the third with OL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-sports-illustrated-five-round-mock-draft

I agree in that I like the draft as well as any, but also in that it may well be that the Vikings feel better about where they are with OL than the fans/analysts do. There is also a need at safety, either for depth or, if Harris goes, for a starter and depth. As far as I can tell, there are no safeties on the roster other than Smith and Harris.

The actual draft may shock/horrify fans.

I think your comment is spot on.

Given the weird conditions this year, I think its going to be a wild ride with teams differing more widely from the pundits than usual.

The more fans obsess over media rankings, the more they'll be disappointed.

Prospects with medical concerns like WR Ay-ay-ay-yuck are going to really drop as well.

Not much of a medical concern the way I understand it. The recovery time is supposed to be short and the prognosis excellent. If he drops to 58 I would snap him up in a heartbeat.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The article says Vikes fans won't be happy with no OL, but I see this as a 'realistic' draft with subbing out the edge rusher in the third with OL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-sports-illustrated-five-round-mock-draft

I agree in that I like the draft as well as any, but also in that it may well be that the Vikings feel better about where they are with OL than the fans/analysts do. There is also a need at safety, either for depth or, if Harris goes, for a starter and depth. As far as I can tell, there are no safeties on the roster other than Smith and Harris.

The actual draft may shock/horrify fans.

I think your comment is spot on.

Given the weird conditions this year, I think its going to be a wild ride with teams differing more widely from the pundits than usual.

The more fans obsess over media rankings, the more they'll be disappointed.

Prospects with medical concerns like WR Ay-ay-ay-yuck are going to really drop as well.

Not much of a medical concern the way I understand it. The recovery time is supposed to be short and the prognosis excellent. If he drops to 58 I would snap him up in a heartbeat.

If you have 4-5 guys ranked similarly and one guy had recent core muscle surgery that requires a 4-8 week normal recovery time ... and your medical staff can't check him out before the draft ... its a legitimate concern.

I don't think it's a red flag (he gets dinged several rounds) but in a very, very deep class he may very well last to 58. (Fortunately for him, one of the others dudes [Shenault] in the same 2nd tier WR clump had the same surgery in Feb.).

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Malcolm Perry QB for Navy Rushed for over 2000 yards this year. He's also a dynamic pass receiver. he will be a WR or RB in the NFL. I want him on my Vikings.
The highlights are mind blowing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6i9M2p5oQ

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Malcolm Perry QB for Navy Rushed for over 2000 yards this year. He's also a dynamic pass receiver. he will be a WR or RB in the NFL. I want him on my Vikings.
The highlights are mind blowing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH6i9M2p5oQ

7th or UDFA

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The article says Vikes fans won't be happy with no OL, but I see this as a 'realistic' draft with subbing out the edge rusher in the third with OL.

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/vikings-sports-illustrated-five-round-mock-draft

I agree in that I like the draft as well as any, but also in that it may well be that the Vikings feel better about where they are with OL than the fans/analysts do. There is also a need at safety, either for depth or, if Harris goes, for a starter and depth. As far as I can tell, there are no safeties on the roster other than Smith and Harris.

The actual draft may shock/horrify fans.

I think your comment is spot on.

Given the weird conditions this year, I think its going to be a wild ride with teams differing more widely from the pundits than usual.

The more fans obsess over media rankings, the more they'll be disappointed.

Prospects with medical concerns like WR Ay-ay-ay-yuck are going to really drop as well.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Today I'm feeling a CB (Gladney?) and Josh Jones OT in the first, and one of Aiyuck, Reagor, Pittman in the second (possible trade-up).

That is likely to change five minutes from now, if it hasn't already.....

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Here is one man's corner ranking. It seems that there are ten good ones.

CB Rankings:

1. Jeff Okudah
2. CJ Henderson
3. Kristian Fulton
4. Jeff Gladney
5. AJ Terrell
6. Noah Igbinoghene
7. Jaylon Johnson
8. Trevon Diggs
9. Damon Arnette
10. Amik Robertson

(Irv Smith, Jr. The Goat on Twitter)

Diggs seems like he is sliding out of the 1st rd for some reason.

I read the Vikings took him off their board but i imagine the guy was just speculating.

There are plenty of good CBs so I don't see how the Vikings could possibly consider Trevon Diggs. He was actively pushing his brother away from the Vikings every step of the way. Bad Blood.

Where did you hear that?

I remember reading that Trevon said he knows exactly how to shut Stephon down in coverage.

Trevon is a big corner and would fit nicely in to our scheme.

I don't remember all the exact details, but he was tweeting along with Stefon and I think gave him the Cardinals jersey they pictured him in. He was definitely a rabble raiser.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Today I'm feeling a CB (Gladney?) and Josh Jones OT in the first, and one of Aiyuck, Reagor, Pittman in the second (possible trade-up).

That is likely to change five minutes from now, if it hasn't already.....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Here is one man's corner ranking. It seems that there are ten good ones.

CB Rankings:

1. Jeff Okudah
2. CJ Henderson
3. Kristian Fulton
4. Jeff Gladney
5. AJ Terrell
6. Noah Igbinoghene
7. Jaylon Johnson
8. Trevon Diggs
9. Damon Arnette
10. Amik Robertson

(Irv Smith, Jr. The Goat on Twitter)

Diggs seems like he is sliding out of the 1st rd for some reason.

I read the Vikings took him off their board but i imagine the guy was just speculating.

There are plenty of good CBs so I don't see how the Vikings could possibly consider Trevon Diggs. He was actively pushing his brother away from the Vikings every step of the way. Bad Blood.

Where did you hear that?

I remember reading that Trevon said he knows exactly how to shut Stephon down in coverage.

Trevon is a big corner and would fit nicely in to our scheme.

I don't remember all the exact details, but he was tweeting along with Stefon and I think gave him the Cardinals jersey they pictured him in. He was definitely a rabble raiser.

The Vikings will never draft him. He's off the boards. I hope after we pass on him he tumbles way down... let him learn his lesson about interfering in a business by taking a hit in his own pocketbook.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Today I'm feeling a CB (Gladney?) and Josh Jones OT in the first, and one of Aiyuck, Reagor, Pittman in the second (possible trade-up).

That is likely to change five minutes from now, if it hasn't already.....

Maybe there will be an unforeseen event, like a trade for Williams or a trade up or down on day one of the draft. (more likely up, don't you think?) Perhaps a blue chip player may slide.

So what I'm saying is that I believe something will happen that none of us could have predicted. That is what I am predicting.

Let me give you an example. The LSU defensive end might be a player that Vikings find a way to select. Zimmer is reportedly frustrated that he's not getting better run defense on first downs from Odenigbo and K’Lavon Chaisson is supposed to be good as a three down DE. I found this:

Chaisson is also effective against the run, which means he can be an every down player and not just a pass rush specialist. He has excellent gap discipline and plays with great leverage which allows him to hold his own at the point of attack and cause disruption in the backfield.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/25/2020-nfl-draft-prospect-lsu-klavon-chaisson/

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Today I'm feeling a CB (Gladney?) and Josh Jones OT in the first, and one of Aiyuck, Reagor, Pittman in the second (possible trade-up).

That is likely to change five minutes from now, if it hasn't already.....

Maybe there will be an unforeseen event, like a trade for Williams or a trade up or down on day one of the draft. (more likely up, don't you think?) Perhaps a blue chip player may slide.

So what I'm saying is that I believe something will happen that none of us could have predicted. That is what I am predicting.

Let me give you an example. The LSU defensive end might be a player that Vikings find a way to select. Zimmer is reportedly frustrated that he's not getting better run defense on first downs from Odenigbo and K’Lavon Chaisson is supposed to be good as a three down DE. I found this:

Chaisson is also effective against the run, which means he can be an every down player and not just a pass rush specialist. He has excellent gap discipline and plays with great leverage which allows him to hold his own at the point of attack and cause disruption in the backfield.

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/25/2020-nfl-draft-prospect-lsu-klavon-chaisson/

I know I was beating the drum for him earlier but he really looks like a fit for a 3-4 team. Maybe that is us(sometimes).