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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 9:44:06 AM   
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I think Jefferson looks like a smooth route runner with very good speed 4.43. If I remember right Shades ran a 4.45.

The thing I like most about Jefferson is that he might be the best route runner in the draft and has great ball skills (some mentioned Cris Carter skills). Now I still suggest we grab a burner/KR (Hamler) and/or Tyler Johnson later in the draft.

You have Shades,Jefferson,Johnson/Hamler, Sharpe, Bisi.....you can mix and match and very dangerous.


Agreed. We have a cadre of guys with decent speed and could use a burner.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 9:46:35 AM   
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In that twitter that showed the video of the Vikings regime talk before, during, and after the Jefferson pick, at least three of them said "We got one."

They may have been simply repeating when it was said the first time. Or they got one of the ones they had grouped. Or they got one of two or more they want to get.

Hmmmm.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 9:51:02 AM   
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In that twitter that showed the video of the Vikings regime talk before, during, and after the Jefferson pick, at least three of them said "We got one."

They may have been simply repeating when it was said the first time. Or they got one of the ones they had grouped. Or they got one of two or more they want to get.

Hmmmm.

One thing that was disturbing on day one was that our franchise still doesn't think our offensive line is bad enough to draft one. Yes, we need a wide receiver. Yes, we need a corner. But we have needed offensive linemen for five years and have a fumbling machine playing quarterback.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 9:53:39 AM   
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Updated mock from SI has MN taking Gallimore/OK DT in the second round

3rd round, Wanogho/OT/Auburn, Kareen/Edge/NotreDame


https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/24/nfl-mock-draft-rounds-2-3-friday

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 9:54:27 AM   
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So if it comes out we trade Harris and a 4th for WIlliams plus we trade for NYJ Adams with our 2nd....how should we feel?

Who is Adams?


Jamal Adams....1st round pick (#6 in 2017), safety. Would count 3.5 million against the cap this year. Still on rookie contract.

Googled him and he wants out of NY because he wants to get paid.

If we're going to pay a S big money might as well pay Ant Harris vs giving up draft stock to pay Adams.

Adams is another level...
This would be amazing, but we'll need to pay him in the next couple years though...

not sure Harris' 2019 season is repeatable for him...
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 9:58:21 AM   
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Green Bay has just two more picks in the next 140 or so. We know they want a linebacker and receiver. They also could use an offensive lineman. With what they have it will be hard to move up again. I mean they already moved up once. Their fans will have to wait, most likely, while the top 30 or so remaining prospects are plucked before them tonight and then wait 32 more picks again. They gave up their fourth rounder in their trade up last night and their next pick after that will be near the end of the fifth round.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:07:08 AM   
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Dude wore a robe on draft night. That's a little bizarre.


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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:09:28 AM   
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Gladney lacks ideal size/bulk for the position, but he excels because of his blend of quickness and feistiness. He plays outside and inside. He is at his best in off coverage, where he uses a quick, fluid pedal before efficiently planting and driving on balls thrown in front of him. He doesn't waste steps. He is always in good position, but will get walled off at times by bigger wideouts. When he does press, he usually sits at 2 yards and carries his hands low before trying to catch wideouts and re-route them. His overall ball awareness is very good. He does a good job coming to balance before tackling runners and he's also an effective blitzer. Gladney needs to get a little stronger, but I love his scheme versatility and toughness.

(Daniel Jeremiah)


Who is that from (getting stronger)? He benches 400 lbs, squats 600 lbs (which is more impressive than many DT)?

that's what I'm thinking while reading this...

he is super strong, has good bulk, just a couple inches shorter than today's NFL ideal...but he is every bit the classic quick and fluid and scrappy cb that loves football and plays his @$$ off every minute he is on the field...I wanted him from the beginning, but kept seeing all the others that were getting more love...I think we got the right guy!
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:12:34 AM   
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Gladney lacks ideal size/bulk for the position, but he excels because of his blend of quickness and feistiness. He plays outside and inside. He is at his best in off coverage, where he uses a quick, fluid pedal before efficiently planting and driving on balls thrown in front of him. He doesn't waste steps. He is always in good position, but will get walled off at times by bigger wideouts. When he does press, he usually sits at 2 yards and carries his hands low before trying to catch wideouts and re-route them. His overall ball awareness is very good. He does a good job coming to balance before tackling runners and he's also an effective blitzer. Gladney needs to get a little stronger, but I love his scheme versatility and toughness.

(Daniel Jeremiah)


Who is that from (getting stronger)? He benches 400 lbs, squats 600 lbs (which is more impressive than many DT)?

that's what I'm thinking while reading this...

he is super strong, has good bulk, just a couple inches shorter than today's NFL ideal...but he is every bit the classic quick and fluid and scrappy cb that loves football and plays his @$$ off every minute he is on the field...I wanted him from the beginning, but kept seeing all the others that were getting more love...I think we got the right guy!


I was wondering why he dropped until I learned about his Meniscus, Prior ACL/LCL issues but ACL/LCL seems normal now. I saw that he ran a 4.36 also???? Strong, fast, long arms.....

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:14:25 AM   
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Dude wore a robe on draft night. That's a little bizarre.




No. That's doing it like a boss. Hefner style!
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:15:45 AM   
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Dude wore a robe on draft night. That's a little bizarre.




No. That's doing it like a boss. Hefner style!

Perfect for Vegas

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:16:44 AM   
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Just Jefferson’s passer rating when targeted 10-19 yards was 147.9

Kirk Cousins’ passer rating on passes 10-19 yards was 136.9

A perfect passer rating is 158.3 btw

(PFF MIN Vikings on Twitter)

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:18:16 AM   
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After watching film, I like Aiyuk more than Jefferson. The kid looks like an absolute game-changer. Having said that, LSU is a pretty good place to get a WR in recent years.



That was my impression too. I wanted Aiyuk over Jefferson. Jefferson to me seems like a competent plug and play slot guy, but Aiyuk has potential for more pop.
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:20:17 AM   
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From Cory Chavous predraft analysis:

4. Justin Jefferson 6’1 202 LSU
Grade: 6.351 (2nd Round)
Big Board Rank: 32
What makes this player NASTY? (Strengths): Athletic bloodlines. He’s been a Z-WR, No. 2 slot, No. 3
slot, X-WR and he’s even aligned in the backfield as an offset RB. Long. Stronger than he appears
at first glance (carries tacklers into end zone on slant-TD, Oklahoma ‘19). Plays fast with the ball
in his hands. The team will attempt to get him the ball on quick swings out of the backfield on
occasion from an offset RB spot (Georgia ‘19). Clutch player who shows up late in games with snags
away from his frame in traffic (Texas ‘19). Exhibits the body control to change directions without
chopping his steps if need be. Changes his speed suddenly to get DBs off-balance when running
fades from the No. 2 slot. Keeps working when his QB is in scramble mode down the field (SEC
Championship ‘19). Works the middle of the field and is not afraid to throw his body into contactAccelerates on quick outs to get up the field vertically for hidden yardage (SEC Championship ‘19).
Changes speed with deft savvy and sets up defenders with subtle stick maneuvers before bending
and dipping underneath around walked-out LBs/Ss/NBs. Equally adept at defeating press-man if
given a couple of rooms to set up a move. Satisfactory effort as a blocker working stalk blocks.
Weaknesses: Prior to 2019, he needed to clean up the wasted motion off the line of scrimmage
working outside (shaking at LOS on slant, near INT, Miami, Fla ‘18). It may have been a big reason
why the team moved him primarily inside as a junior. Concentration lapses. Dropped a back shoulder concept through the contact of Miami, Fla. CB Jhavonte Dean (Miami, Fla. ‘18). In this same
game (Miami ‘18), his hand placement got him into trouble on a holding call. He will occasionally
try to run before he secures the catch (1st QTR/1:23, CFP semifinal, DROP). Physical, average CBs
have crowded him on the outside lanes and he’s looked average trying to separate down the field
(Rice ‘18).
Other Notes: Attended Destrehan HS (La.) and was ranked as a three-star prospect by Rivals.com
• Older brother, Jordan, was a QB at LSU and another older brother, Rickey, played DB • Dad, John,
played basketball at Louisiana-Monroe • Has a personal-best 43’0.5” triple jump as a member of the
track & field team at Destrehan HS in 2017 • 2017: One rushing attempt • 6 catches for 81 yards vs.
Alabama on 11/3/18 • 2018 (12 sts): 54 catches for 875 yards (16.2 YPR) and 6 TDs; 5 carries for 26
yards • 9 receptions for 163 yards and 3 TDs vs. Texas on 9/7/19 • 7 receptions for 115 yards and one
TD vs. Georgia in the 2019 SEC Championship Game • 14 receptions for 227 yards and 4 TDs vs.
Oklahoma in the 2019 CFP National Semifinal • 2019 (13 sts, AP 2nd Team All-SEC): 111 catches
for 1,540 yards (13.87 YPR) and 18 TDs • 2020 NFL Combine: 6’1 202 9 1/8” hands, 33” arms, 4.43
40-yd, 37 1/2” VJ, 10’6” BJ • 2020 NFL Combine on-field report: Attacked the football with confidence running through the gauntlet drill at the 2020 NFL Combine. Looked the best of the first
group. May have been even better on his second gauntlet run through. Accelerated into his cut on
the first slant pattern. Too dramatic when trying to roll the speed cut (dropped his weight and lost
speed into the cut), but got his head and hips around. Ran his dig pattern (coming off the ball) like
he was working to get a DB to open up and then sunk well into the break. Lost his footing slightly
coming out of the second portion of post corner route.
Time to get NASTY (Our Summary): Jefferson’s smooth deceptive gait is complemented by unique
Wide Receivers quickness. The athletic bloodlines are evident when watching him move around on the football
field. It is as if you are watching a basketball player move around when he sets up defenders in the
slot. There will be questions from NFL teams regarding his ability to truly stand out on the outside
lanes. The unorthodox hop-skip releases that worked so well inside (slot No. 2/No. 3) for Jefferson
may not be as effective on the perimeter in the NFL. It is imperative that teams view him just as
LSU did. A big, quick slot or Z-receiver with body control and outstanding finishing skill in one on-one situations. His style of play is similar to Cris Carter working the slot and outside lanes in
Minnesota (1990s-to-early 2000s).
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:23:02 AM   
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After watching film, I like Aiyuk more than Jefferson. The kid looks like an absolute game-changer. Having said that, LSU is a pretty good place to get a WR in recent years.



That was my impression too. I wanted Aiyuk over Jefferson. Jefferson to me seems like a competent plug and play slot guy, but Aiyuk has potential for more pop.

I think Jefferson still has plenty of untapped levels, while having a higher floor than Aiyuk. He runs great routes, gets separation and catches the damn ball.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:23:37 AM   
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From Cory Chavous site:

5. Jeff Gladney 5’10 191 TCU
Grade: 6.21(2nd Round)
Big Board Rank: 55
What makes this player NASTY…(Strengths): Tough. Solid crack-and-replace tackler (Texas
‘19). He has held his own vs. bigger WRs. Took away slant-and-go along the goal line vs. Texas
Tech’s Antoine Wesley and forced the QB to throw it away (Texas Tech ‘18, 1st half). Defended a
back-shoulder fade perfectly vs. Texas’ Collin Johnson in 2019 (4th QTR/10:04). He had earlier
battled Johnson on a goal line fade and looked over his inside shoulder to defend the pass. When
defending near the GL, he takes away slants with his feet (1st QTR, Oklahoma State ‘19). Uses a
solid motor-press technique. Came out of nowhere to sneak back and fool Cal’s QB for an interception and displayed speed running after it in the 2018 Cheez-it Bowl. When attempting to take away
the inside release he will get beaten, speed turn and recover to get back in-phase with the WR (vs.
Roberson, SMU ‘19, slant-and-go, 2nd and 9, 2nd QTR). Closes on patterns that break away from
him with above average recovery speed (PBU, West Virginia ‘19). Even when slightly cocked-in
(press-man), he can beat the WR to the spot (PBU, slant, Oklahoma State ‘19).
Weaknesses: His feet tend to settle vs. the first move in his man coverage. Steps forward with his
inside foot and gets himself into opening the gate vs. underwhelming personnel (West Virginia ‘19).
His jam location can be off-kilter (bump-and-run) and he has to hurry up to regain a top-down
approach (allowed back-shoulder fade, 3rd and 3, Johnson, Texas ‘19). Then there is the occasional technique where he opens into the man from four yards off of him. Lacks the instant sink to
defend intermediate routes. Beaten on a speed release in the third quarter of the Oklahoma game
by CeeDee Lamb in the slot (fade).There are times when he gets his head around down the field but
misplays the ball after doing so (1st QTR, vs. Stoner, Oklahoma State ‘19). Was he supposed to get
underneath the corner route in quarters press against Texas? Later in the first half (3rd and 16), he
didn’t get underneath the high-low combination (2nd QTR, Texas ‘19). Bigger WRs can envelop
him as blockers in the screen game despite him attacking the block (2nd and 5, Johnson, Texas ‘19,
1st QTR). Suspended for the first half of the Oklahoma game for a targeting foul against Texas Tech
in 2019.
Other Notes: Attended New Boston HS (Tex.) and was named a three-star recruit by Scout.com
• Also ran track & field at the prep level • 2016 (12 gms, 8 sts): 46 tackles, 6 PBUs • 2017 (13 gms, 11
sts, Honorable mention All-Big 12): 28 tackles, 2 INTs (94 yds, TD) and 5 PBUs • Had an INT and
4 PBUs vs. Oklahoma State on 11/24/18 • 2018 (13 gms, 2nd Team All-Big 12): 41 tackles, QB sack,
4 TFLs, FF, 2 INTs and 13 PBUs • 8 tackles and 3 PBUs vs. Texas on 10/26/19 • 2019 (12 gms, 1st
Team All-Big 12): 31 tackles, 1/2 QB sack, 1.5 TFLs, INT and 14 PBUs • Career Stats: 50 games, 146
tackles, 1.5 QB sacks, 6 TFLs, FF, 5 INTs (128 yds, TD), 38 PBUs • 2020 NFL Combine: 5’10 191 9”
hands, 31 7/8” arms, 17 reps-225 lbs, 4.48 40-yd, 37 1/2” VJ, 10’4” BJ, 7.26 3-cone
Time to get NASTY (Our Summary): Gladney plays a physical brand of football. Some teams will
knock him for his height, but his 32-inch arms allow him to play bigger than that. The times where
his size did seem to get him into trouble centered around stalk blocks. Bigger wideouts can envelop
him on the edge. The other issue was the zone awareness when it came to playing situational
football. The small details often separate the good from great cornerbacks on Sunday afternoons.
Gladney was a solid collegiate cornerback and he has a chance to continue that on Sundays. The fact
that he competes week-to-week and tackles could help him in his transition to the next level. He has
some similarities to former Oregon State cornerback Steven Nelson (Kansas City Chiefs, Pittsburgh
Steelers).
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:28:26 AM   
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Thanks for sharing, fmaltes!

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:28:54 AM   
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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?


Dead cap hits of 51M this year and 31M next year.

2022 he still has a dead cap hit of 17M and a 39M cap hit overall.

2023 he only has a 3M dead cap hit (but still a 28M salary).

Seems like he might be hard to move...
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:31:45 AM   
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Dude wore a robe on draft night. That's a little bizarre.




No. That's doing it like a boss. Hefner style!

Perfect for Vegas




I turned to my daughter and said that this guy is legit. You're not going to disrupt my nightly routine!

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:38:15 AM   
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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?


Dead cap hits of 51M this year and 31M next year.

2022 he still has a dead cap hit of 17M and a 39M cap hit overall.

2023 he only has a 3M dead cap hit (but still a 28M salary).

Seems like he might be hard to move...

Then drafting Love is all the more puzzling to me. Rodgers is absolutely unmovable for three years. Year 4 they can only release him for no compensation. They burned a 4th round pick to move up in the first round and take a flier on a 3 year backup QB, who is considered to be a project. This, despite the fact that they are a playoff team that could have legitimately addressed needs with the picks they used up on Love.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:53:17 AM   
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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?


Dead cap hits of 51M this year and 31M next year.

2022 he still has a dead cap hit of 17M and a 39M cap hit overall.

2023 he only has a 3M dead cap hit (but still a 28M salary).

Seems like he might be hard to move...

Then drafting Love is all the more puzzling to me. Rodgers is absolutely unmovable for three years. Year 4 they can only release him for no compensation. They burned a 4th round pick to move up in the first round and take a flier on a 3 year backup QB, who is considered to be a project. This, despite the fact that they are a playoff team that could have legitimately addressed needs with the picks they used up on Love.


That was my feeling when they drafted him. It's kind of lazy to say that the Aaron Rodgers/Brett Favre draft scenario is totally comparable to Jordan Love/Aaron Rodgers last night. Favre had been threatening to retire for years and was more clearly on his way out than Rodgers, where Rodgers is cemented in place as their starter for at least two seasons (probably three). That cap number is gigantic.

I personally love it because it will rattle Rodgers to no end.

Not to mention that Rodgers was viewed as a legitimate #1 overall pick who fell, while Love was a fringe 1st rounder who rose based on combine and workouts.

Having watched every Boise game, I'm very familiar w/ the MWC. He may have an arm, but his decision making is really bad.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:55:28 AM   
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I just love the tumult that the packer's drafting Love creates in that organization...

I love how annoyed (at the least) Rodgers must be right now...

or is he livid, apoplectic, and completely unhinged?
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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:56:06 AM   
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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?


Dead cap hits of 51M this year and 31M next year.

2022 he still has a dead cap hit of 17M and a 39M cap hit overall.

2023 he only has a 3M dead cap hit (but still a 28M salary).

Seems like he might be hard to move...

Then drafting Love is all the more puzzling to me. Rodgers is absolutely unmovable for three years. Year 4 they can only release him for no compensation. They burned a 4th round pick to move up in the first round and take a flier on a 3 year backup QB, who is considered to be a project. This, despite the fact that they are a playoff team that could have legitimately addressed needs with the picks they used up on Love.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here. I think the Packers think they just got the next Patrick Mahomes.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:57:09 AM   
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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?


Dead cap hits of 51M this year and 31M next year.

2022 he still has a dead cap hit of 17M and a 39M cap hit overall.

2023 he only has a 3M dead cap hit (but still a 28M salary).

Seems like he might be hard to move...

Then drafting Love is all the more puzzling to me. Rodgers is absolutely unmovable for three years. Year 4 they can only release him for no compensation. They burned a 4th round pick to move up in the first round and take a flier on a 3 year backup QB, who is considered to be a project. This, despite the fact that they are a playoff team that could have legitimately addressed needs with the picks they used up on Love.


That was my feeling when they drafted him. It's kind of lazy to say that the Aaron Rodgers/Brett Favre draft scenario is totally comparable to Jordan Love/Aaron Rodgers last night. Favre had been threatening to retire for years and was more clearly on his way out than Rodgers, where Rodgers is cemented in place as their starter for at least two seasons (probably three). That cap number is gigantic.

I personally love it because it will rattle Rodgers to no end.

Not to mention that Rodgers was viewed as a legitimate #1 overall pick who fell, while Love was a fringe 1st rounder who rose based on combine and workouts.

Having watched every Boise game, I'm very familiar w/ the MWC. He may have an arm, but his decision making is really bad.

Or reinvigorate the chip on his shoulder to show he's the best quarterback in football.

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RE: NFL Draft 2020 - 4/24/2020 10:57:15 AM   
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Packers draft was a bit puzzling. Maybe it's just me, but I see Aaron Rodgers playing quarterback for a few more years. I like Love, but Rodgers is one of the smartest and most accurate quarterbacks in the game. I thought they had a ton of needs they didn't address. Quarterback is not their problem, and hasn't been for over 25 years.

The Packers may have decided that they are closer to moving on from the diva than people realize.

Apparently so. That, or he is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder in 2020 and play his ass off.

Can he get out of his contract and ask for a trade?

Rodgers to the Patriots?


Dead cap hits of 51M this year and 31M next year.

2022 he still has a dead cap hit of 17M and a 39M cap hit overall.

2023 he only has a 3M dead cap hit (but still a 28M salary).

Seems like he might be hard to move...

Then drafting Love is all the more puzzling to me. Rodgers is absolutely unmovable for three years. Year 4 they can only release him for no compensation. They burned a 4th round pick to move up in the first round and take a flier on a 3 year backup QB, who is considered to be a project. This, despite the fact that they are a playoff team that could have legitimately addressed needs with the picks they used up on Love.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here. I think the Packers think they just got the next Patrick Mahomes.


Trust me. They didn't. Someone will lose their job over that pick.

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