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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Mark - they're not immune, but they at least are mostly wearing masks. After the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis there was no appreciable rise in Covid cases.

We will never know.

People came from out of state, not just Minneapolis.

Also, contact tracers(in certain states) were not allowed to ask covid positive people if they attended a George Floyd protest.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Mark - they're not immune, but they at least are mostly wearing masks. After the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis there was no appreciable rise in Covid cases.

We will never know.

People came from out of state, not just Minneapolis.

Also, contact tracers(in certain states) were not allowed to ask covid positive people if they attended a George Floyd protest.

That's pretty deep; I hadn't heard that. I kind of get part of it, but disappointing from a public health standpoint, and a lack of courage if it's only because they don't want to make anyone feel defensive.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing.

Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have.

But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing.

Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have.

But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing.

Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have.

But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events.

I wasn't trying to.

I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way.

The results probably end up the same though.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing.

Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have.

But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events.

I wasn't trying to.

I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way.

The results probably end up the same though.

The results end up the same? Was there any cultural change coming out of the Sturgis Rally? I missed that.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing.

Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have.

But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing.

Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have.

But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events.

I wasn't trying to.

I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way.

The results probably end up the same though.

The results end up the same? Was there any cultural change coming out of the Sturgis Rally? I missed that.

Here's a couple of famous Covid19 sayings.

"You will kill your parents and grandparents"

" The virus doesn't play favorites"

I just want a little consistency on the reporting of how it is spread.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Sure there is. There just isn't money in testing and tracing. They'd rather put a person on a ventilator and have the person stay in their high-priced hospital for 30 days. That's where the money is.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

Tell that to the 40-million people out of work.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

Tell that to the 40-million people out of work.

Relax. Just pointing out that some companies are getting rich off of a bad situation.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

Absolutely. Reducing office space and laying off or cutting thousands of employees looks great to the bottom line.

It really shows how one of the most widely (mis)used barometers of our economy in no way reflects the economic health of the nation.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: stfrank

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says.

In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA.

As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

Absolutely. Reducing office space and laying off or cutting thousands of employees looks great to the bottom line.

It really shows how one of the most widely (mis)used barometers of our economy in no way reflects the economic health of the nation.