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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/12/2021 6:15:19 PM   
David Levine


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The sixth NBA game in the season’s first 23 days — Utah at Washington on Wednesday — has been postponed:
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 8:15:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		NBA season is long, playoff caliber teams will be obvious.

Just cancel some games and go by win percentage. The bottom seeds have very little chance of advancing. By the time the playoffs start the vaccine will be available to anybody that wants it.

Last year you can't tell me the Heat upset the Bucks with fans in the stands. Unless you think the Bucks drop the first two at home in a packed arena.

NBA IMO has a bigger problem, James Harden and Kyrie Irving. Couple of team cancers that don't want to play. Fully guaranteed contracts in the NBA brings out the worst in many players.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:15:44 PM   
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The Nets are trading for All-NBA star James Harden and sending four first-round picks and four draft swaps to the Rockets, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

@Stadium
. Caris LeVert, Jarrett Allen are being moved -- could be another team or two involved.

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:19:19 PM   
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Brooklyn’s acquiring James Harden in a three-way deal with Cleveland. Caris LeVert, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, four 1st round picks – including Cavs’ 2022 first via Bucks -- and 4 Nets pick swaps to Rockets. Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince to Cavs.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:20:31 PM   
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The Indiana Pacers are moving Victor Oladipo to the Rockets for package around Caris LeVert, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:24:16 PM   
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The Indiana Pacers are moving Victor Oladipo to the Rockets for package around Caris LeVert, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA


HMM...wouldn't you rather have LeVert....money didn't work? Who knows if Oladipo can stay healthy.

I see Levert is signed for 3 more years....Oladipo is a UFA after this year. Salary dump?

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:24:46 PM   
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G SUS.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:27:00 PM   
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Shams Charania@ShamsCharania
The Indiana Pacers are moving Victor Oladipo to the Rockets for package around Caris LeVert, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA


HMM...wouldn't you rather have LeVert....money didn't work? Who knows if Oladipo can stay healthy.

I see Levert is signed for 3 more years....Oladipo is a UFA after this year. Salary dump?


LeVert is a nice glue guy, but his legs and feet are made of tissue paper.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 3:28:55 PM   
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: Brooklyn sends three unprotected first-round picks -- 2022, 2024 and 2026 in deal -- plus pick swaps in 2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027. The Rockets get Cleveland 2022 first-round pick via the Bucks.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 5:22:06 PM   
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Adrian Wojnarowski@wojespn
Sources with @ramonashelburne
: Brooklyn sends three unprotected first-round picks -- 2022, 2024 and 2026 in deal -- plus pick swaps in 2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027. The Rockets get Cleveland 2022 first-round pick via the Bucks.


Although a lot can change between now and 2025/27, I presume at least the 2021/23 pick swaps won't happen?
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 6:08:40 PM   
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Adrian Wojnarowski@wojespn
Sources with @ramonashelburne
: Brooklyn sends three unprotected first-round picks -- 2022, 2024 and 2026 in deal -- plus pick swaps in 2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027. The Rockets get Cleveland 2022 first-round pick via the Bucks.


Although a lot can change between now and 2025/27, I presume at least the 2021/23 pick swaps won't happen?


Probably.

Those would be the worst case scenario swaps for Brooklyn. Kyrie implodes, Durant reinjures his leg, Harden weighs 450 pounds...
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/13/2021 6:45:06 PM   
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Reminder: James Harden AND Kevin Durant AND Kyrie Irving have player options on the final year of their contracts, which means all 3 players can become unrestricted free agents after next season.

This seems important considering the Nets traded away all their first-round picks
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/14/2021 11:39:58 PM   
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/15/2021 11:59:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I really don't have a favorite team (thanks Wolves) but I love the game. However, I hope the Rockets do well and I wouldn't shed a tear if the Nets suck.

Harden and Irving are amazing talents. They make me appreciate James so much more.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/16/2021 3:18:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		It’s not just his and James’ minutes that have gone down, however. According to NBA.com’s tracking data, the Lakers already move at a slower average speed (4.05 miles per hour) than any team in the league, other than the Houston Rockets (3.99). During their last four wins, however, the Lakers’ advantages led to them having to scramble around even less, decelerating their average movement speed to an NBA-low 4.01 miles per hour over that stretch, slower than even the Rockets’ team they just blew out twice (4.02).

For context on just how much they’ve decelerated despite adding one of the speediest players in the NBA in Dennis Schröder and keeping their resident speedster Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, last year the Lakers moved at an average speed of 4.09 mph.

That may not sound like a lot, but every little bit of energy not expended helps as the Lakers try to manage their workload during a season turnaround unlike any other. If they take care of teams early, they won’t have to exert themselves as hard late, saving wear and tear both on and off the floor.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/20/2021 10:30:57 PM   
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I think Williams is doing similar things with his team, and I'm impressed.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/20/2021 10:35:04 PM   
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Good side, he knows his game.
Downside, he needs a shot outside of six feet.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/20/2021 11:04:36 PM   
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/21/2021 1:54:39 PM   
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Who looked older at 22 years old, Deandre Ayton or Greg Oden?

Granville Waiters
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/22/2021 9:02:10 PM   
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Who looked older at 22 years old, Deandre Ayton or Greg Oden?

Granville Waiters


Good call.

Blazers have a history of drafting those old young guys. Hell, you can add Drexler to the list.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/23/2021 12:58:01 PM   
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Who looked older at 22 years old, Deandre Ayton or Greg Oden?

Granville Waiters


Good call.

Blazers have a history of drafting those old young guys. Hell, you can add Drexler to the list.

Has anyone ever looked older in college than a disappointed Melvin Newbern? Shots of him after a call against him often looked like a Social Security recipient being told he's been waiting in the wrong line.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/29/2021 10:26:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Two of my favorite underrated (undrafted) players in the league playing tonight in the late game, O'Neale and Finney-Smith.

Exceptional defenders. Not the fake defender label we give to players with no offensive game, real deal defenders. They know their game and they're very good at it.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 1/31/2021 3:23:44 PM   
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8/10, 2/3, 9/9 shooting.
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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/1/2021 7:51:47 AM   
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Fleeced by GS bringing in a terrible player.
Taking Edwards over Ball

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RE: NBA Talk 2020 - 2/2/2021 12:19:08 AM   
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Rosas looking like a chump right now.

Fleeced by GS bringing in a terrible player.
Taking Edwards over Ball



Taking Edwards?
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