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Danielle Hunter reportedly won’t attend Vikings mandatory minicamp

by Adam Patrick

As he continues to try and get a new deal from the Minnesota Vikings, Danielle Hunter is not expected to attend the team’s mandatory minicamp next week, according to a recent report.

Minnesota Vikings fans are really enjoying all of the drama going on with the Green Bay Packers and their top quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, right now.

Rodgers has decided not to attend the Packers‘ mandatory minicamp, and there doesn’t seem to be any indication of whether he will ever play for Green Bay again or not.

Unfortunately, as Vikings fans are laughing at the expense of Packers fans, their team has its own situation with defensive end Danielle Hunter not attending their OTA practices with the rest of the guys on the roster. Now, a recent report indicates that Hunter is expected to follow a similar path to Rodgers next week.

While it’s been disappointing that Hunter has not been in attendance for any of Minnesota’s OTA practices during the last few weeks, these sessions have been voluntary.

The true test of Hunter’s seriousness about getting a new contract from the Vikings has always been believed to be his decision to attend the team’s mandatory minicamp or not next week.

Well, according to KSTP’s Darren Wolfson on Tuesday, the 26-year-old defensive end is not expected to participate in Minnesota’s mandatory minicamp when it begins next Tuesday, June 15.

This would be a pretty significant decision for Hunter to make, especially since it could result in him being fined almost $100,000. He already gave up the possibility to earn a $100,000 workout bonus by not attending the Vikings OTA practices this year. So maybe he’s not worried about losing another $100,000.

If Hunter does decide to skip Minnesota’s mandatory minicamp next week and he still doesn’t get a new contract from the team, what might happen next? With the fines increasing to $50,000 per missed practice once training camp begins, it’s possible that the young pass rusher could try to force a trade before Vikings training camp gets underway at the end of July.

Minnesota figuring out what they want to do with Hunter sooner than later would be ideal. But it doesn’t sound like this problem is going to be fixed anytime in the near future.

They better hand him a huge contract, and quick. Remove him from the lineup and we'll be luck to win nine games. Everything Zimmer's defense is supposed to do stops doing it as soon as we have no pass rush.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Danielle Hunter reportedly won’t attend Vikings mandatory minicamp

by Adam Patrick

As he continues to try and get a new deal from the Minnesota Vikings, Danielle Hunter is not expected to attend the team’s mandatory minicamp next week, according to a recent report.

Minnesota Vikings fans are really enjoying all of the drama going on with the Green Bay Packers and their top quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, right now.

Rodgers has decided not to attend the Packers‘ mandatory minicamp, and there doesn’t seem to be any indication of whether he will ever play for Green Bay again or not.

Unfortunately, as Vikings fans are laughing at the expense of Packers fans, their team has its own situation with defensive end Danielle Hunter not attending their OTA practices with the rest of the guys on the roster. Now, a recent report indicates that Hunter is expected to follow a similar path to Rodgers next week.

While it’s been disappointing that Hunter has not been in attendance for any of Minnesota’s OTA practices during the last few weeks, these sessions have been voluntary.

The true test of Hunter’s seriousness about getting a new contract from the Vikings has always been believed to be his decision to attend the team’s mandatory minicamp or not next week.

Well, according to KSTP’s Darren Wolfson on Tuesday, the 26-year-old defensive end is not expected to participate in Minnesota’s mandatory minicamp when it begins next Tuesday, June 15.

This would be a pretty significant decision for Hunter to make, especially since it could result in him being fined almost $100,000. He already gave up the possibility to earn a $100,000 workout bonus by not attending the Vikings OTA practices this year. So maybe he’s not worried about losing another $100,000.

If Hunter does decide to skip Minnesota’s mandatory minicamp next week and he still doesn’t get a new contract from the team, what might happen next? With the fines increasing to $50,000 per missed practice once training camp begins, it’s possible that the young pass rusher could try to force a trade before Vikings training camp gets underway at the end of July.

Minnesota figuring out what they want to do with Hunter sooner than later would be ideal. But it doesn’t sound like this problem is going to be fixed anytime in the near future.

They better hand him a huge contract, and quick. Remove him from the lineup and we'll be luck to win nine games. Everything Zimmer's defense is supposed to do stops doing it as soon as we have no pass rush.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

Until Hunter reports and shows he can still play we have no assurance at all that he can still play. The Vikings have a proven track record of reworking contracts for players that have outperformed their existing contract. IF Hunter doesn't show up for mandatory events he is in violation of his contract and creating ill will between himself and the team.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

Until Hunter reports and shows he can still play we have no assurance at all that he can still play. The Vikings have a proven track record of reworking contracts for players that have outperformed their existing contract. IF Hunter doesn't show up for mandatory events he is in violation of his contract and creating ill will between himself and the team.

We don't even know if he was actually injured at all. Pay him or our 'win now' season becomes another exercise in mediocrity. 9-8 or 8-9 with no playoffs. As a season ticket holder I demand that my money be used to secure Hunter so we can finally see the Zimmer/Spielman/Cousins experiment through.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

Do you want him on the field this year or not?

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

Do you want him on the field this year or not?

Yes and him reporting to camp is the best way to assure we see him on the field this year. Hunter violating his contract will lead to ill will and perhaps an impasse where he doesn't take the field for us this year.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

Do you want him on the field this year or not?

Yes and him reporting to camp is the best way to assure we see him on the field this year. Hunter violating his contract will lead to ill will and perhaps an impasse where he doesn't take the field for us this year.

And you don't see a new contract as a way to remedy that?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

I don't remember us ever tearing up a contract. I've seen us give extensions but could be wrong.

I would be ok adding 3 years 90 M to his contract with low guaranteed money with that guarantee money coming in the form of signing bonus. Protects the team a little, ups Hunter's annual salary, gives him some money up front.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

I don't remember us ever tearing up a contract. I've seen us give extensions but could be wrong.

I would be ok adding 3 years 90 M to his contract with low guaranteed money with that guarantee money coming in the form of signing bonus. Protects the team a little, ups Hunter's annual salary, gives him some money up front.

30 M a year for a non qb? That is some tall cotton.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

Do you want him on the field this year or not?

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

Do you want him on the field this year or not?

Yes and him reporting to camp is the best way to assure we see him on the field this year. Hunter violating his contract will lead to ill will and perhaps an impasse where he doesn't take the field for us this year.

And you don't see a new contract as a way to remedy that?

Sure give a player who we don't have a clue whether he's any good or not a new contract with a huge raise. Sure it would remedy that, but by no means worth the cost. The Vikings have already given Hunter a signing bonus and paid him for a year of not playing football. It's Hunter's turn to show some good will by honoring his contract and showing he is the all pro caliber defensive end he was in 2019. If he is then the Vikings will step up like they always do and rework his contract to be commensurate with Hunter's abilities. If he isn't Hunter still gets paid for 3 more years because he took the security route of signing a long term deal.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

I don't remember us ever tearing up a contract. I've seen us give extensions but could be wrong.

I would be ok adding 3 years 90 M to his contract with low guaranteed money with that guarantee money coming in the form of signing bonus. Protects the team a little, ups Hunter's annual salary, gives him some money up front.

30 M a year for a non qb? That is some tall cotton.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

This whole mess should have been cleaned up by draft day. If they couldn't agree to a contract they would have had trade options for the draft. If Hunter had underperformed his contract, he would have been forced to either renegotiate to a more team favorable contract or would have been released. Hunter is exercising the only leverage he has. I have no problem with that.

He already pocketed the signing bonus and got paid last year for not playing at all. Because he signed long term deal and got the security that came with it. If he thinks creating bad will between himself and the team is leverage whatever.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Take the gamble...pay 99 and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Yep. He's a cornerstone of the defense and an incredible talent. He's watched the team tear up the contracts of other players and give them raises. The teams have the best doctors money can buy. They know if he can play or not.

I don't remember us ever tearing up a contract. I've seen us give extensions but could be wrong.

I would be ok adding 3 years 90 M to his contract with low guaranteed money with that guarantee money coming in the form of signing bonus. Protects the team a little, ups Hunter's annual salary, gives him some money up front.

30 M a year for a non qb? That is some tall cotton.

it's ridiculous and would never happen...hunter is going into the 3rd year of a five-year extension - so far he's received about $19m for each of the two years of that deal, and much of that money upfront - a year before the extension even started....

so far, hunter has not been underpaid....
okay, so what do we do now that the balance of that extension only pays him $12m/yr for the final three years?....

i'd give him a new deal that makes him play this year for the $12m salary, with a team option to extend him three more years at $20m/yr...and yes, he'd have to add one more year to his present deal....

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Would I be happy if they re-did his current deal, sure, that's another distraction we can do without. I just don't see it as a team responsibility, if I negotiate a great deal for myself and a contract is signed, I'm not in a hurry to re do so I can pay more money, but that's just me.

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Would I be happy if they re-did his current deal, sure, that's another distraction we can do without. I just don't see it as a team responsibility, if I negotiate a great deal for myself and a contract is signed, I'm not in a hurry to re do so I can pay more money, but that's just me.

That attitude is precisely why Hunter is exercising the leverage he has at his disposal. As has been pointed out, if Hunter had underperformed, he would have been forced to negotiate a pay cut or be cut.

And if the Vikings are sincere in their desire to put last year behind them and put their best foot forward this year, you better believe it's a team responsibility.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

I don't care didily squat if Hunter is a Viking for life. I want him on the field THIS season. To make that happen he needs a new deal. Right now he makes Yannick Ngakoue money. Let that sink in a bit. Rest assured he has. Without him playing this season the team has NO chance of doing anything substantial. Obviously make it contingent on him passing a physical (as every contract already is).