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Solid post. In particular, I like the take on Dalvin Cook. I've been saying for 12 years that running back is the easiest position on the field to replace. It happens all over the league. Guy gets hurt, replacement doesn't miss a beat. Hell, Rashad Penny has been one of the best backs in the league over the past four weeks.

OMG take a look at the top 3 rushers by week:

Week 17 so far - Rashaad Penny, D'Onta Foreman, Elijah Mitchell

Week 16 - Rex Burkhead, Rashaad Penny, Sony Michel

Week 15 - Jonathan Taylor, Miles Sanders, Craig Reynolds

Week 14 - Dalvin Cook, Rashaad Penny, Alvin Kamara

Week 13 - Jonathan Taylor, Sony Michel, Miles Sanders

Week 12 - Joe Mixon, Elijah Mitchell, Dontrell Hilliard

The Dalvin Cook contract is every bit as crazy as the Cousins or Smith contracts. He's due $43.5-million in base salary over the next four years with a $55.2 cap hit.

At this point, we aren't going to have any money for Justin Jefferson.

It's a matter of value. Right now, I think you could probably lure away a solid RB like D' Ernest Johnson from the Browns for a song. He's a RFA next year and their running game didn't miss a beat as he filled in for Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt when they were injured. Along w/ Mattison, our running game would be fine and not drop off too much. Plus, the guy has never had a salary over 850k, which means you wouldn't be breaking the bank on him.

Minshew is intriguing as competition for QB1. I won't bag on Mond when we've never actually seen the guy play in regular season.

Cook should be moved. He and Cousins are only two of several overpriced contracts. I'm more than happy to unload any of the high profile selfish pricks on the roster who missed games because they refused to get vaccinated. They need to purge now. The offense needs to be rebuilt around Jefferson as quickly as possible.

Trading players based on vaccination is a good way to get the #1 pick in 2023. Any great vaccinated QBs coming out that year?

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The best chance we have to get a franchise QB is to be one of the worst teams for a season and get a top draft pick.

I'm OK with a 2-15 season next year if we have a new front office making the picks.

Clean house and bottom out next year with a focus on 2023-2026 being the years we make a run.

JJ, Darrisaw, O'Neil, and Irv Smith are my keepers. Everyone else is fair game.

Another way would be trading Jefferson to a team like Jacksonville. They have their QB and still suck.

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Kellen Mond is 'liking' social media posts that point out that Zimmer's comments were cold and mean-spirited about "not particularly" wanting to see Mond play on Sunday because he "sees him every day in practice".

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Kellen Mond is 'liking' social media posts that point out that Zimmer's comments were cold and mean-spirited about "not particularly" wanting to see Mond play on Sunday because he "sees him every day in practice".

I usually hate to see player comments posted outside the lockerroom.

Since Zimmer isn't big enough to admit or see his own idiocy and Spielman doesn't have the balls to reel him in ...

mark me down for liking Mond's liking.

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I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

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Solid post. In particular, I like the take on Dalvin Cook. I've been saying for 12 years that running back is the easiest position on the field to replace. It happens all over the league. Guy gets hurt, replacement doesn't miss a beat. Hell, Rashad Penny has been one of the best backs in the league over the past four weeks.

OMG take a look at the top 3 rushers by week:

Week 17 so far - Rashaad Penny, D'Onta Foreman, Elijah Mitchell

Week 16 - Rex Burkhead, Rashaad Penny, Sony Michel

Week 15 - Jonathan Taylor, Miles Sanders, Craig Reynolds

Week 14 - Dalvin Cook, Rashaad Penny, Alvin Kamara

Week 13 - Jonathan Taylor, Sony Michel, Miles Sanders

Week 12 - Joe Mixon, Elijah Mitchell, Dontrell Hilliard

The Dalvin Cook contract is every bit as crazy as the Cousins or Smith contracts. He's due $43.5-million in base salary over the next four years with a $55.2 cap hit.

At this point, we aren't going to have any money for Justin Jefferson.

It's a matter of value. Right now, I think you could probably lure away a solid RB like D' Ernest Johnson from the Browns for a song. He's a RFA next year and their running game didn't miss a beat as he filled in for Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt when they were injured. Along w/ Mattison, our running game would be fine and not drop off too much. Plus, the guy has never had a salary over 850k, which means you wouldn't be breaking the bank on him.

Minshew is intriguing as competition for QB1. I won't bag on Mond when we've never actually seen the guy play in regular season.

Cook should be moved. He and Cousins are only two of several overpriced contracts. I'm more than happy to unload any of the high profile selfish pricks on the roster who missed games because they refused to get vaccinated. They need to purge now. The offense needs to be rebuilt around Jefferson as quickly as possible.

Trading players based on vaccination is a good way to get the #1 pick in 2023. Any great vaccinated QBs coming out that year?

Successful QB's are leaders. Look at Rothlisberger and the Steelers last night. It was a meaningless game but the Steelers played with some serious intensity because they wanted Rothlisberger to win his final game as a Steeler. No one on the Vikings is running through a brick wall for Cousins. Why? Maybe it's because the next time he puts the team in front of himself it will be the first. Whether it's shirking accountability when he plays poorly, not working with the team to restructure his contract, or not getting vaccinated to increase his odds of playing every week. The guy is not a leader and he'll never win a Superbowl.

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I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

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I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

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The best chance we have to get a franchise QB is to be one of the worst teams for a season and get a top draft pick.

I'm OK with a 2-15 season next year if we have a new front office making the picks.

Clean house and bottom out next year with a focus on 2023-2026 being the years we make a run.

JJ, Darrisaw, O'Neil, and Irv Smith are my keepers. Everyone else is fair game.

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

Who do you think you can get with that?

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

Those are more than "big moves".

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The best chance we have to get a franchise QB is to be one of the worst teams for a season and get a top draft pick.

I'm OK with a 2-15 season next year if we have a new front office making the picks.

Clean house and bottom out next year with a focus on 2023-2026 being the years we make a run.

JJ, Darrisaw, O'Neil, and Irv Smith are my keepers. Everyone else is fair game.

2-15 is a bit much for me. The difference between 7-10 and 11-6 is not that much. If you are 2-15, you've got a long way to go.

The truth is, I don't think there's a simple and quick answer to our problems. Firing Spielman and Zimmer would be a start. Perhaps trading a guy like Cook gets us some good prospects. This team isn't that far away, it just needs some new guys at the top pulling the strings. They've had their chance. They didn't get it done.

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I doubt anyone is trading for Cook with his contract, his history of injury, his potential legal issues, and the fact that the delta between what you can get out of Cook at his best and what you can get from a back the next level or two down doesn't merit taking on the issues I listed.

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I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

Who do you think you can get with that?

Veteran: Minshew, Mayfield, Darnold

Draft Pick:

Pickett: Major trade up (probably additional 1s) Don't do it.

Corral: Trade up. (Maybe an additional 1 or a 2 and Cook)

Willis: Depends on his post season games and workouts. Could be there when we pick.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

Who do you think you can get with that?

Veteran: Minshew, Mayfield, Darnold

Draft Pick:

Pickett: Major trade up (probably additional 1s) Don't do it.

Corral: Trade up. (Maybe an additional 1 or a 2 and Cook)

Willis: Depends on his post season games and workouts. Could be there when we pick.

Those veteran QB's are all proven losers IMO. They have had more starts to prove themselves than the Vikings would likely give them going forward.

Darnold and Mayfield have had years under center, they make Cousins look like Joe Montana. Mayfield has an offensive coach, good line, excellent running game, and decent receivers and he is their problem, not their answer. Swap Cousins for Mayfield and they could have easily won the AFC North.

Huntley is intriguing to me. Perhaps giving them Cook would tempt them, considering their troubles at RB.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'll never be okay with a 2-15 season.

Many of us have been waiting more than 50 years for a Superbowl victory. We've had more than our share of crappy seasons and/or crappy endings to good seasons. Why should we have to settle for more of that?

It's called short term pain for long term gain.

Are you content with finishing 7-10 through 10-7 every year and drafting 12-20? Perpetually stuck in mediocrity will never get us to the SB.

You have the best chance of getting a franchise QB if you are drafting in the top 3-5 picks. We're never bad enough to get that.

I think we can make about 3 or 4 big moves(trade Cousins, trade Cook, trade Smith or extend Hunter) and find a franchise QB and still contend for a playoff spot next year. Then contend for SB in following years.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Of course we need the right person making those decisions. I'm all in for Assistant GM of Chiefs.

Who do you think you can get with that?

Veteran: Minshew, Mayfield, Darnold

Draft Pick:

Pickett: Major trade up (probably additional 1s) Don't do it.

Corral: Trade up. (Maybe an additional 1 or a 2 and Cook)

Willis: Depends on his post season games and workouts. Could be there when we pick.

Those veteran QB's are all proven losers IMO. They have had more starts to prove themselves than the Vikings would likely give them going forward.

Darnold and Mayfield have had years under center, they make Cousins look like Joe Montana. Mayfield has an offensive coach, good line, excellent running game, and decent receivers and he is their problem, not their answer. Swap Cousins for Mayfield and they could have easily won the AFC North.

Huntley is intriguing to me. Perhaps giving them Cook would tempt them, considering their troubles at RB.

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I doubt anyone is trading for Cook with his contract, his history of injury, his potential legal issues, and the fact that the delta between what you can get out of Cook at his best and what you can get from a back the next level or two down doesn't merit taking on the issues I listed.

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I doubt anyone is trading for Cook with his contract, his history of injury, his potential legal issues, and the fact that the delta between what you can get out of Cook at his best and what you can get from a back the next level or two down doesn't merit taking on the issues I listed.

Cook has a 8.3M hit and 10.4M hit the next 2 years for the team that trades for him.

I could see a Miami or Jets team looking for playmakers take that on.

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I doubt anyone is trading for Cook with his contract, his history of injury, his potential legal issues, and the fact that the delta between what you can get out of Cook at his best and what you can get from a back the next level or two down doesn't merit taking on the issues I listed.

Cook has a 8.3M hit and 10.4M hit the next 2 years for the team that trades for him.

I could see a Miami or Jets team looking for playmakers take that on.

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I doubt anyone is trading for Cook with his contract, his history of injury, his potential legal issues, and the fact that the delta between what you can get out of Cook at his best and what you can get from a back the next level or two down doesn't merit taking on the issues I listed.

Cook has a 8.3M hit and 10.4M hit the next 2 years for the team that trades for him.

I could see a Miami or Jets team looking for playmakers take that on.

Possibly, but I doubt you get better than a 2nd or 3rd for him.