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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:05:30 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:06:31 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:24:43 PM   
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There is this:
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Source said the #Vikings have cut CB Tye Smith.

I knew that was coming.



...it's like deja vu all over again

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:27:36 PM   
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So most likely it'll be an injury settlement and then he'll be released.



can he play for another team?...just not ours?...all players injured in the preseason have to move on....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:29:48 PM   
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Source said the #Vikings have cut CB Tye Smith.

I knew that was coming.


...it's like deja vu all over again


They want to give him a chance to catch on to another team.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:31:30 PM   
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This is crazy, but true. Chandler is a rookie and Mattison begins his 4th year in the league. Mattison born 6/29/1998, Chandler born 5/12/98. Mattison is also younger than Kene Nwangwu (2/9/98).

That really is amazing.



ty chandler played five seasons in college....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:33:04 PM   
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There is this:
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Source said the #Vikings have cut CB Tye Smith.

I knew that was coming.


...it's like deja vu all over again


They want to give him a chance to catch on to another team.


you can say that again....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:42:45 PM   
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Last offseason the Patriots got a 2023 fourth-round pick to go with the 2022 sixth-rounder for Sony Michel entering the final year of his deal.

I would think we'd get less for Mattison as he isn't as proven:

Michel: 3 years, 38 games, 28 starts: 535 carries, 2292 yards (4.3 Y/A), 14 TDs. 26 receptions, 258 yards (9.9 Y/R), 1 Ts.

Mattison: 3 years, 42 games, 6 starts: 330 carries, 1387 yards (4.2 Y/A), 6 TDs. 32 receptions, 228 yards (7.9 Y/R), 2 TDs.


Might be better off letting him go to FA, see what we can get as recompensation picks


We'll be lucky to get a 6th unless Cook misses half the season:

The factors that go into calculating compensatory selections are the player’s average annual salary, playing time, and postseason honors. Salary is the main factor, with playing time having the second-most weight, and postseason awards the final component.


But those are all future considerations earned with the new team.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 4:43:37 PM   
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There is this:
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Source said the #Vikings have cut CB Tye Smith.

I knew that was coming.


...it's like deja vu all over again


They want to give him a chance to catch on to another team.


you can say that again....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 5:01:18 PM   
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Source: At least 12 teams have called to express interest in trading for #Vikings backup RB Alexander Mattison, who's entering final year of his contract & isn't going to sign an extension anytime soon. But Vikings would want good value if they move him:



if it's to a team we play this season, then i want no less than a 3rd - all others a 4th...minimum....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 5:34:05 PM   
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Chris Tomasson
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Source: At least 12 teams have called to express interest in trading for #Vikings backup RB Alexander Mattison, who's entering final year of his contract & isn't going to sign an extension anytime soon. But Vikings would want good value if they move him:



if it's to a team we play this season, then i want no less than a 3rd - all others a 4th...minimum....

I think a 4th round pick is reasonable both ways. If any team pays it you know they intend to make him their featured back.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 6:17:38 PM   
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Chris Tomasson
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Source: At least 12 teams have called to express interest in trading for #Vikings backup RB Alexander Mattison, who's entering final year of his contract & isn't going to sign an extension anytime soon. But Vikings would want good value if they move him:



if it's to a team we play this season, then i want no less than a 3rd - all others a 4th...minimum....


I think *maybe* a conditional 4th could be offered. No way a 3.

He doesn't have enough history to command that, plus he'll be a FA after the year and has already expressed that he wants to be a RB1, so he's not going to be a cheap re-sign.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 6:38:40 PM   
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Chris Tomasson
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Source: At least 12 teams have called to express interest in trading for #Vikings backup RB Alexander Mattison, who's entering final year of his contract & isn't going to sign an extension anytime soon. But Vikings would want good value if they move him:



if it's to a team we play this season, then i want no less than a 3rd - all others a 4th...minimum....


I think *maybe* a conditional 4th could be offered. No way a 3.

He doesn't have enough history to command that, plus he'll be a FA after the year and has already expressed that he wants to be a RB1, so he's not going to be a cheap re-sign.

If another team sees him as a RB1 which I certainly think he can be they would possibly offer the 3rd. However, I'm ok with settling for a 4th.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 7:26:54 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 7:32:04 PM   
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We’re all in this season…I say a 3rd, or we stand pat with mattison….

We know cook is going to miss 2-4 games, and we should keep a power runner….

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 7:42:24 PM   
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We’re all in this season…I say a 3rd, or we stand pat with mattison….

We know cook is going to miss 2-4 games, and we should keep a power runner….

I think I'd take a fourth, probably, but I doubt it will be offered unless someone is a little desperate or they haven't watched a lot of Mattison.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 7:54:17 PM   
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We’re all in this season…I say a 3rd, or we stand pat with mattison….

We know cook is going to miss 2-4 games, and we should keep a power runner….

I think I'd take a fourth, probably, but I doubt it will be offered unless someone is a little desperate or they haven't watched a lot of Mattison.


A 3rd we can convert to a 2nd, and the 2nd round is the sweet spot round….

Cine, booth, Ingram , and asamoah - all picked around the sweet spot….

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 7:57:53 PM   
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Nobody in the NFL sees Mattison as a lead RB. He's nice, but not remotely special.

Yeah I don't the see the 3-4th rounder conversation either. A back-up RB?

He's very solid in all areas which separates him from the huge pile of one trick pony / serviceable types ... but ... he's a backup RB.

He's one half of a rotation on any team without an elite RB.

Take a 5th and a veteran IOL on the bubble.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 9:32:58 PM   
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How’s that Strib projection of the final 53 working out, Rick.

I said no, to your question, because I Know better than to try and out guess a new coach and GM based on 1 draft and three crappy Preseason games, and I am a curmudgeon…

Well, i figured it was one of those reasons ;/
And i get it. Am i supposed to know if they are keeping 4 rb, 6 wr?
The only play ive seen so far this year was an incredible punt that i hope gets repeated a few times. And im assuming this guy held for an unrecognized team record 58 yd fg.


confirm, he was holding

I know you guys are very busy covering every possible pick we could get for our back-up running back but if you could take a second to confirm whether 66 is the holder or not Id appreciate it - I can't tell if Doc knows the answer to this question or not
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 10:34:23 PM  1 votes
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How’s that Strib projection of the final 53 working out, Rick.

I said no, to your question, because I Know better than to try and out guess a new coach and GM based on 1 draft and three crappy Preseason games, and I am a curmudgeon…

Well, i figured it was one of those reasons ;/
And i get it. Am i supposed to know if they are keeping 4 rb, 6 wr?
The only play ive seen so far this year was an incredible punt that i hope gets repeated a few times. And im assuming this guy held for an unrecognized team record 58 yd fg.


confirm, he was holding

I know you guys are very busy covering every possible pick we could get for our back-up running back but if you could take a second to confirm whether 66 is the holder or not Id appreciate it - I can't tell if Doc knows the answer to this question or not


Jordan berry has been cut..

So…

Figure it out..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 10:52:51 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/29/2022 10:54:11 PM   
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How’s that Strib projection of the final 53 working out, Rick.

I said no, to your question, because I Know better than to try and out guess a new coach and GM based on 1 draft and three crappy Preseason games, and I am a curmudgeon…

Well, i figured it was one of those reasons ;/
And i get it. Am i supposed to know if they are keeping 4 rb, 6 wr?
The only play ive seen so far this year was an incredible punt that i hope gets repeated a few times. And im assuming this guy held for an unrecognized team record 58 yd fg.


confirm, he was holding

I know you guys are very busy covering every possible pick we could get for our back-up running back but if you could take a second to confirm whether 66 is the holder or not Id appreciate it - I can't tell if Doc knows the answer to this question or not


Is R. Wright #66? If so, then confirmed, he was holding.

< Message edited by thebigo -- 8/29/2022 10:58:52 PM >
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/30/2022 2:50:03 AM   
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We’re all in this season…I say a 3rd, or we stand pat with mattison….

We know cook is going to miss 2-4 games, and we should keep a power runner….

I think I'd take a fourth, probably, but I doubt it will be offered unless someone is a little desperate or they haven't watched a lot of Mattison.


A 3rd we can convert to a 2nd, and the 2nd round is the sweet spot round….

Cine, booth, Ingram , and asamoah - all picked around the sweet spot….


I agree that 3rd round picks are great - and 2nd rounders are even better.

We’re not getting either for Mattison.

Mattison is a perfectly cromulent running back, but he hasn’t shown he’s a starter - and he’s a FA after the season. I really would be surprised if we got better than a 5th that conditionally could turn into a 4th.

My guess is we keep him and let him walk after the season and potentially collect our 6th round compensatory pick.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/30/2022 3:00:25 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/30/2022 7:21:33 AM   
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How’s that Strib projection of the final 53 working out, Rick.

I said no, to your question, because I Know better than to try and out guess a new coach and GM based on 1 draft and three crappy Preseason games, and I am a curmudgeon…

Well, i figured it was one of those reasons ;/
And i get it. Am i supposed to know if they are keeping 4 rb, 6 wr?
The only play ive seen so far this year was an incredible punt that i hope gets repeated a few times. And im assuming this guy held for an unrecognized team record 58 yd fg.


confirm, he was holding

I know you guys are very busy covering every possible pick we could get for our back-up running back but if you could take a second to confirm whether 66 is the holder or not Id appreciate it - I can't tell if Doc knows the answer to this question or not


Jordan berry has been cut..

So…

Figure it out..

Figure it out?
F you
I thought i had fig it out
I assumed
Doc asked to confirm
-stop being a jerk
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