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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

Stafford

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

Stafford

Oh!

But he doesn't talk about God so it's different

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

So many negative posts in here. I'm glad my house is more positive than some here.

The Viking absolutely have an excellent chance of winning. The game is at home, first game of the season, and it's Viking Packers divisional game. We have better players at many positions as do they.
Why does everyone work so hard to make this so complicated?

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Dead money is just accounting; it's paid during the term of the contract. And Kwesi had to do that or something like it to be able to sign people to compete for the playoffs this year, which seems to be the mandate of the Wilfs.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

Stafford

Oh!

But he doesn't talk about God so it's different

And, his .445 was earned playing on a dysfunctional Lions team for 12 of his 13 years in the league.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Dead money is just accounting; it's paid during the term of the contract. And Kwesi had to do that or something like it to be able to sign people to compete for the playoffs this year, which seems to be the mandate of the Wilfs.

Thank god it's just accounting. I had thought Cousins' $12.5 million dead cap figure was additional outgoing cap money that will be paid to Cousins as part of his contract. Which was how I got his $80 million total contract figure over the next two years. Which was the premise.

I guess then the 2022 dead cap figure of $23 million is merely an accounting drill sneaky Brzez has skirted instituted. So do we really have $25 million in cap to spend?

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

So many negative posts in here. I'm glad my house is more positive than some here.

The Viking absolutely have an excellent chance of winning. The game is at home, first game of the season, and it's Viking Packers divisional game. We have better players at many positions as do they.
Why does everyone work so hard to make this so complicated?

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

Stafford

Oh!

But he doesn't talk about God so it's different

And, his .445 was earned playing on a dysfunctional Lions team for 12 of his 13 years in the league.

Yet with a bottom 5 defense over 2020-2021 (and I'm going to say a team just as dysfunctional as your standard issue Lions team), Cousins team went 15-18 .454

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

So many negative posts in here. I'm glad my house is more positive than some here.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

So many negative posts in here. I'm glad my house is more positive than some here.

I like to think that bothers me as well but today, and other times, I've been as bad as anyone - hypocrite would be the right word

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

Stafford

Oh!

But he doesn't talk about God so it's different

And, his .445 was earned playing on a dysfunctional Lions team for 12 of his 13 years in the league.

Yet with a bottom 5 defense over 2020-2021 (and I'm going to say a team just as dysfunctional as your standard issue Lions team), Cousins team went 15-18 .454

So ... you're saying Cousins' W-L record was slightly better over 2020-2021 even though Stafford won a SB?

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Dead money is just accounting; it's paid during the term of the contract. And Kwesi had to do that or something like it to be able to sign people to compete for the playoffs this year, which seems to be the mandate of the Wilfs.

Thank god it's just accounting. I had thought Cousins' $12.5 million dead cap figure was additional outgoing cap money that will be paid to Cousins as part of his contract. Which was how I got his $80 million total contract figure over the next two years. Which was the premise.

I guess then the 2022 dead cap figure of $23 million is merely an accounting drill sneaky Brzez has skirted instituted. So do we really have $25 million in cap to spend?

You keep treating as new money, as in your suggestion that it will go to Jeff Gladney's heirs. It is not new money. That is all I'm saying.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Dead money is just accounting; it's paid during the term of the contract. And Kwesi had to do that or something like it to be able to sign people to compete for the playoffs this year, which seems to be the mandate of the Wilfs.

Thank god it's just accounting. I had thought Cousins' $12.5 million dead cap figure was additional outgoing cap money that will be paid to Cousins as part of his contract. Which was how I got his $80 million total contract figure over the next two years. Which was the premise.

I guess then the 2022 dead cap figure of $23 million is merely an accounting drill sneaky Brzez has skirted instituted. So do we really have $25 million in cap to spend?

You keep treating as new money, as in your suggestion that it will go to Jeff Gladney's heirs. It is not new money. That is all I'm saying.

I don't care, the timing is not the point (except for you). The total value of the contract is my point.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Dead money is just accounting; it's paid during the term of the contract. And Kwesi had to do that or something like it to be able to sign people to compete for the playoffs this year, which seems to be the mandate of the Wilfs.

Thank god it's just accounting. I had thought Cousins' $12.5 million dead cap figure was additional outgoing cap money that will be paid to Cousins as part of his contract. Which was how I got his $80 million total contract figure over the next two years. Which was the premise.

I guess then the 2022 dead cap figure of $23 million is merely an accounting drill sneaky Brzez has skirted instituted. So do we really have $25 million in cap to spend?

You keep treating as new money, as in your suggestion that it will go to Jeff Gladney's heirs. It is not new money. That is all I'm saying.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

A career .500 QB has zero ability to “carry a team to wins”.

A career .500 QB who had Shanahan, McVey, Gruden, and KOC as his coaches, in one form or another, will not suddenly flash greatness of his own doing.

A Career .500 QB is going to need Above average play from top tier receivers and a running game to win the opener.

A career .500 QB put a lot of pressure on the defense to protect leads and prevent the opposing team from scoring.

For this team to go deep in the post season, we have to win the division.

Winning opening day and winning after the bye week @ Arizona, is going to be key.

A first round bye would be nice, but getting into the playoff without major injury issues will help.

I have guarded hopes.

But I also do not see any 1998 or 2000, or even 2009 magic waiting in the wings.

Not with a career .500 QB “ carrying “ my dreams.

How about a career .445 QB?

Which one would that be?

Stafford

Oh!

But he doesn't talk about God so it's different

And, his .445 was earned playing on a dysfunctional Lions team for 12 of his 13 years in the league.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Dead money is just accounting; it's paid during the term of the contract. And Kwesi had to do that or something like it to be able to sign people to compete for the playoffs this year, which seems to be the mandate of the Wilfs.

Thank god it's just accounting. I had thought Cousins' $12.5 million dead cap figure was additional outgoing cap money that will be paid to Cousins as part of his contract. Which was how I got his $80 million total contract figure over the next two years. Which was the premise.

I guess then the 2022 dead cap figure of $23 million is merely an accounting drill sneaky Brzez has skirted instituted. So do we really have $25 million in cap to spend?

You keep treating as new money, as in your suggestion that it will go to Jeff Gladney's heirs. It is not new money. That is all I'm saying.

I don't care, the timing is not the point (except for you). The total value of the contract is my point.

Sorry, I was just trying to let you know dead money is just an accounting/salary cap ploy because it was not at all clear that you understood that from what you wrote:

"He has a lot of dead cap where he will be paid but not on the roster.

Try adding all the money he will be paid and divide it by the number of years remaining on the contract.

Edit: $80 million, which includes $12.5 million he'll get for not being a Viking, over two years."

or

"$25 million in dead cap this year. 80% of it goes to Barr, Pierce, Rudolph, Gladney (his estate I guess)."

or

"To include this regime/Kwesi paying Cousins $12.5 million to sit on his ass if he wants."

or

"And Ricky please note Cousins is expected (so why bet on it?) to be here for two more years, but after that he gets the $12.5 million to drive his grandma's van full time."

So forgive me please for trying to be helpful.