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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 5:24:19 PM

Bill Johanesen

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Arm to fire the ball accurately all over the field? Elite.
100% guaranteed $35M salary? Elite.
Gray matter between his ears? Game manager.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 5:44:01 PM

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nm

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 5:52:48 PM

Bill Johanesen

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One of your best. So succinct.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 6:39:56 PM

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nm

One of your best. So succinct.

Why thank you. Nice word. Second only to succubus ... but I ramble.

< Message edited by Tom Sykes -- 12/14/2021 6:46:01 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 9:13:18 PM

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Kirk, Zim, and esp Rick need to go.

I'm not opposed to tearing it down to the studs.

Jefferson and Darrisaw are the only untouchables.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 10:42:31 PM

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Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/14/2021 10:56:21 PM

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Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

I hope it's not too late to get Harrison Smith a little extra dough. Also, a small raise for Barr and maybe we can entice Rudy back.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 1:17:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 9:08:45 AM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 9:40:06 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

I hope it's not too late to get Harrison Smith a little extra dough. Also, a small raise for Barr and maybe we can entice Rudy back.

Well, I don't know about Rudy. But we will have to sign Irv Smith Jr. to top 10 TE money. Probably let Conklin walk will save us $50.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 10:11:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

Cousins has shown repeatedly that he has no interest in reworking his contract. Better to trade Cousins to SF for Trey Lance and a 3rd, and eat the $10 mil we'd still owe Cousins. Sign Fitzmagic and we've got a gutty vet and 2 young modern era QB's and we're not devoting 20% of the cap to QB any more.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 10:44:56 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

I hope it's not too late to get Harrison Smith a little extra dough. Also, a small raise for Barr and maybe we can entice Rudy back.

Well, I don't know about Rudy. But we will have to sign Irv Smith Jr. to top 10 TE money. Probably let Conklin walk will save us $50.

Can we atleast wait a year or two if / when Irv breaks into the top 20 TEs?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 10:49:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

we will also have about 400 roster spots to fill after our current one year rentals split for greener one year pastures.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 10:53:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

I hope it's not too late to get Harrison Smith a little extra dough. Also, a small raise for Barr and maybe we can entice Rudy back.

Well, I don't know about Rudy. But we will have to sign Irv Smith Jr. to top 10 TE money. Probably let Conklin walk will save us $50.

Can we atleast wait a year or two if / when Irv breaks into the top 20 TEs?

In a year or 2 he may have played 20 games!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 11:05:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

Cousins has shown repeatedly that he has no interest in reworking his contract. Better to trade Cousins to SF for Trey Lance and a 3rd, and eat the $10 mil we'd still owe Cousins. Sign Fitzmagic and we've got a gutty vet and 2 young modern era QB's and we're not devoting 20% of the cap to QB any more.

I am not following the 10 million number. Nor the Lance part which makes no sense for SF. Infact, Cousins for 1-2 years at 25m and Lance as backup and future starter make perfect sense for SF.

Trading Cousins and paying 20 million of his 45 for a third rd pick would be a bad but necessary deal for us … if we decide to cut our losses for next season.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 11:22:07 AM

ratoppenheimer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

All of barr’s indicated salary is also dead cap….As is all of Sheldon Richardson is indicated salary

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 12:54:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

Cousins has shown repeatedly that he has no interest in reworking his contract. Better to trade Cousins to SF for Trey Lance and a 3rd, and eat the $10 mil we'd still owe Cousins. Sign Fitzmagic and we've got a gutty vet and 2 young modern era QB's and we're not devoting 20% of the cap to QB any more.

I am not following the 10 million number. Nor the Lance part which makes no sense for SF. Infact, Cousins for 1-2 years at 25m and Lance as backup and future starter make perfect sense for SF.

Trading Cousins and paying 20 million of his 45 for a third rd pick would be a bad but necessary deal for us … if we decide to cut our losses for next season.

If the Vikings trade Cousins they are still on the hook for his $10mil signing bonus, but they avoid the remaining $35mil cap hit.

If the Vikings want to trade Cousins there will be plenty of suitors. It's no secret that Kyle Shanahan loves Cousins. If he thinks that the 9ers are a Kirk Cousins away from the Superbowl, then there's no doubt he'd be highly motivated to make a trade. Lance, who has shown almost nothing, and a 3rd would be very doable.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 1:18:59 PM

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From Eric Thompson’s Twitter:

Ready for this?

Cam Dantzler: 27th of 120
Patrick Peterson: 72nd of 120
Bashaud Breeland: 117th of 120
Mackensie Alexander: 119th of 120
...
...
...
...are you sure you want to see this?
...
...
...
...OK...don't say I didn't warn you...

Mike Hughes: 5th of 120

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 2:52:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

I hope it's not too late to get Harrison Smith a little extra dough. Also, a small raise for Barr and maybe we can entice Rudy back.

Well, I don't know about Rudy. But we will have to sign Irv Smith Jr. to top 10 TE money. Probably let Conklin walk will save us $50.

Can we atleast wait a year or two if / when Irv breaks into the top 20 TEs?

Well sure, if you want to pay top 2-3 TE money.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 3:24:23 PM

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Weather hell is headed your way tonight..

Front moving in from southwest to northeast is spinning up tornadoes like crazy in Nebraska, and it’s headed your way..

Be on guard.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 3:48:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

I hope it's not too late to get Harrison Smith a little extra dough. Also, a small raise for Barr and maybe we can entice Rudy back.

Well, I don't know about Rudy. But we will have to sign Irv Smith Jr. to top 10 TE money. Probably let Conklin walk will save us $50.

Can we atleast wait a year or two if / when Irv breaks into the top 20 TEs?

Well sure, if you want to pay top 2-3 TE money.

If Spielman is still here after the season, you never know. Anything's possible, even for someone with 30 and 36 and 0 RECs in three seasons.

Otherwise, not a reasonable projection.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 4:01:51 PM

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Weeeeooooooweeeeeooooooweeeeeooooooo…..

And I’m in a rolling tin can house..

70-100 mph winds..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 4:04:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Ooh la la! The salary cap is going up by $26 million next year!

and we're still already over the cap....

I think when we cut Barr, we are right at the cap.

Cousins and Hunter's deals will be reworked in some fashion(trade, restructure) and we will gain substantial cap room.

Cousins has shown repeatedly that he has no interest in reworking his contract. Better to trade Cousins to SF for Trey Lance and a 3rd, and eat the $10 mil we'd still owe Cousins. Sign Fitzmagic and we've got a gutty vet and 2 young modern era QB's and we're not devoting 20% of the cap to QB any more.

I am not following the 10 million number. Nor the Lance part which makes no sense for SF. Infact, Cousins for 1-2 years at 25m and Lance as backup and future starter make perfect sense for SF.

Trading Cousins and paying 20 million of his 45 for a third rd pick would be a bad but necessary deal for us … if we decide to cut our losses for next season.

If the Vikings trade Cousins they are still on the hook for his $10mil signing bonus, but they avoid the remaining $35mil cap hit.

If the Vikings want to trade Cousins there will be plenty of suitors. It's no secret that Kyle Shanahan loves Cousins. If he thinks that the 9ers are a Kirk Cousins away from the Superbowl, then there's no doubt he'd be highly motivated to make a trade. Lance, who has shown almost nothing, and a 3rd would be very doable.

The Vikings are on the hook for $45M.

If a team wants to trade for Cousins and split that guaranteed 45M two ways, its anybody's guess what that split would be.

I would love for someone to take Cousins and pay 35M ... that would make a significant impact on our cap.

Do you really think the 49ers have given up on the #3 pick in the 2021 draft already? After one year.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 4:05:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Weather hell is headed your way tonight..

Front moving in from southwest to northeast is spinning up tornadoes like crazy in Nebraska, and it’s headed your way..

Be on guard.

Yikes just read this.

Hope everybody is battened down and stays well.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/15/2021 4:20:35 PM

David F.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Weather hell is headed your way tonight..

Front moving in from southwest to northeast is spinning up tornadoes like crazy in Nebraska, and it’s headed your way..

Be on guard.

Yikes just read this.

Hope everybody is battened down and stays well.

I’m in Sioux Falls shopping right now. I look at my phone and see I’m in a tornado watch. Tornado watch on dec 15th? That’s weird.

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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