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I was about to post that not drafting CB Booth would make two mistakes out three selections for Kwesi but I guess he has an injury history going back to high school and this:

"It's notable that Booth suffered a strained quad while training for the NFL Scouting Combine and was unable to compete. Therefore we don't have concrete measurables to compare to the rest of the class. It's also notable that he got sports hernia surgery at the end of March."

Not that Kwesi is in the least bit injury risk averse.

can't remember who it was, maybe Steve Smith on NFLN, was saying the big red flags for injury are the recurrent soft tissue injuries, (like hamstrings, quads, hernias...)

I bet Booth isn't on our radar here as it sounds like those are exactly the types of things he's dealt with

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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Listening to Common on KFAN. He had a guy on with NBC sports, locally based. Don’t know who he is but he brings up an interesting point. This draft is weaker on top, but unusually deep, due too Covid and other factors.

That’s probably what drove Kwesi to the trade. Trade charts that are static from year to year assigning a set value to each spot and don’t take into account the makeup of a draft said Vikings lost the trade. But a system that factors in the characteristics of a particular draft may tell a different story.

How did COVID and other factors make the draft weaker on top?

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Maybe Kwesi DOES have concerns about injury, and that may be the reason he passed on Williams.

I was concerned that Williams will be injury prone, and I think he will get injured a lot in Detroit.

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ORIGINAL: DavidAOlson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Listening to Common on KFAN. He had a guy on with NBC sports, locally based. Don’t know who he is but he brings up an interesting point. This draft is weaker on top, but unusually deep, due too Covid and other factors.

That’s probably what drove Kwesi to the trade. Trade charts that are static from year to year assigning a set value to each spot and don’t take into account the makeup of a draft said Vikings lost the trade. But a system that factors in the characteristics of a particular draft may tell a different story.

How did COVID and other factors make the draft weaker on top?

The Covid story doesn't make a lot of sense to me, either. (at the top of the draft)

But the dearth of QB prospects meant that other players will run out faster.

And it looks like one of those years without a lot of standouts. The #8 guy went #1. #6 #7 went #3 and #4. And #2 went #7. The #4 guy went at #14. That tells you it was pretty flat up top.

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Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small. Not good to have a player that is a little under-sized that likes to hit, an injury waiting to happen.

Hopefully Cine continues to be a smart tackler as a pro.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small. Not good to have a player that is a little under-sized that likes to hit, an injury waiting to happen.

Hopefully Cine continues to be a smart tackler as a pro.

He's NOT undersized.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small. Not good to have a player that is a little under-sized that likes to hit, an injury waiting to happen.

Hopefully Cine continues to be a smart tackler as a pro.

He's NOT undersized.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Maybe Kwesi DOES have concerns about injury, and that may be the reason he passed on Williams.

I was concerned that Williams will be injury prone, and I think he will get injured a lot in Detroit.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small. Not good to have a player that is a little under-sized that likes to hit, an injury waiting to happen.

Hopefully Cine continues to be a smart tackler as a pro.

He's NOT undersized.

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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small. Not good to have a player that is a little under-sized that likes to hit, an injury waiting to happen.

Hopefully Cine continues to be a smart tackler as a pro.

He's NOT undersized.

Thanks, David. The kid will be just fine in the pros. He’s a great sideline to sideline guy, and he can play safety and slot. If he gains 5-10 pounds with a good weight program, all the better.

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It feels like the Vikes have another 1st round pick with this pick being so close to the 1st round. And the 3rd round pick feels similar, feels like it's a 2nd round pick.

So it feels like the Vikes got 2 1st round picks and a 2nd.

I HATED the trade at first, but am coming around to really liking it.

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Maybe Kwesi DOES have concerns about injury, and that may be the reason he passed on Williams.

I was concerned that Williams will be injury prone, and I think he will get injured a lot in Detroit.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: marty

Brad makes a valid point about Cine's size being a little small. Not good to have a player that is a little under-sized that likes to hit, an injury waiting to happen.

Hopefully Cine continues to be a smart tackler as a pro.

He's NOT undersized.

Wait — are you still trying the "facts" approach?

Nevermind that he's a pretty typical weight for a high-end safety. The real problem is he's 199, and not 200. That'd sound so much bigger.

It's why I always buy the Ronco knives for $19.95.

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Gordon and McCreary will be available with our pick. Willis might. E there, too, but I like the idea of building a bulletproof defense right now. Take the best corner on the board.