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Our weakest starting links at this point are C and TE ... not that we'll find starter cometition in the fourth ...

would really like to take a stab at TE if Kolar is still there when we pick (maybe Otton, think we met with Bellinger).

dang there's not a lot of options this draft at center (Chasen Hines? Zach Tom?)

OT (Brandel, Udoh) is super thin.

CB Zyon McCollum 6-2 199 4.33 39.5 vert 3.94 20 yd shuttle - ballhawk with great measurables, big time gunner, has safety potential also

WR Shakir (6-0 196 4.43 - Inside gadget type with tremendous intangibles) or Calvin Austin (5-8 170 4.32 39"vert - tiny but fearless, super fast and can elevate / return punts)

I think we have depth at DE / OLB Jones Robinson Willekes Wonnum and DT Tomlinson Phillips Watts so maybe a pure Edge (Todd's Barno) or huge space eating NT (Ridgeway6-5 321, Farrell 6-4 330)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Love the look of our new LB.

Asamoah and Cine have some mean and nasty to them. Both look very athletic.

Ingram: 2020 was very good. 2021 not very good. Off the field stuff is iffy to say the least.

Booth Jr.: Says he has played hurt most of his college career. And was pretty darn good. Maybe a boom or bust guy(because of injuries)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

We have a lot of holes to fill. Our secondary was easily bottom 5. Booth and Cine seem like quality.

I could see an argument of going Hamilton and then getting Booth at 46 or with a slight trade up.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Our weakest starting links at this point are C and TE ... not that we'll find starter cometition in the fourth ...

would really like to take a stab at TE if Kolar is still there when we pick (maybe Otton, think we met with Bellinger).

dang there's not a lot of options this draft at center (Chasen Hines? Zach Tom?)

OT (Brandel, Udoh) is super thin.

CB Zyon McCollum 6-2 199 4.33 39.5 vert 3.94 20 yd shuttle - ballhawk with great measurables, big time gunner, has safety potential also

WR Shakir (6-0 196 4.43 - Inside gadget type with tremendous intangibles) or Calvin Austin (5-8 170 4.32 39"vert - tiny but fearless, super fast and can elevate / return punts)

I think we have depth at DE / OLB Jones Robinson Willekes Wonnum and DT Tomlinson Phillips Watts so maybe a pure Edge (Todd's Barno) or huge space eating NT (Ridgeway6-5 321, Farrell 6-4 330)

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

We have a lot of holes to fill. Our secondary was easily bottom 5. Booth and Cine seem like quality.

I could see an argument of going Hamilton and then getting Booth at 46 or with a slight trade up.

Then they should have traded Cousins, Smith and Thielen for more picks.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

We have a lot of holes to fill. Our secondary was easily bottom 5. Booth and Cine seem like quality.

I could see an argument of going Hamilton and then getting Booth at 46 or with a slight trade up.

Then they should have traded Cousins, Smith and Thielen for more picks.

Competitive rebuild

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

We have a lot of holes to fill. Our secondary was easily bottom 5. Booth and Cine seem like quality.

I could see an argument of going Hamilton and then getting Booth at 46 or with a slight trade up.

Then they should have traded Cousins, Smith and Thielen for more picks.

Competitive rebuild

Yep, I see us as a 7-11 win team, depending on close game outcomes for the next 3 years, then maybe another regime change?

Going to be good but never great.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

I'm not sure if Jameson Williams is a slam dunk.

He was the 4th WR selected and a team(Saints) with a pretty good GM moved up to grab Olave instead of him.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

I'm not sure if Jameson Williams is a slam dunk.

He was the 4th WR selected and a team(Saints) with a pretty good GM moved up to grab Olave instead of him.

I agree but he has the potential to be the best player in the draft too. He wasn't the only player we passed on, there were 19 others. I think we could have gotten Cine with our 2nd or a player very comparable. Jalne Pitre for example. Or made a small trade up for him.

I don't care what chart you use Kwesi got schooled, big time. No one in Detroit is complaining about the trade?

It feels like we lost a first round pick in this draft.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

I'm not sure if Jameson Williams is a slam dunk.

He was the 4th WR selected and a team(Saints) with a pretty good GM moved up to grab Olave instead of him.

I agree but he has the potential to be the best player in the draft too. He wasn't the only player we passed on, there were 19 others. I think we could have gotten Cine with our 2nd or a player very comparable. Jalne Pitre for example. Or made a small trade up for him.

I don't care what chart you use Kwesi got schooled, big time. No one in Detroit is complaining about the trade?

It feels like we lost a first round pick in this draft.

Yep.

We should have kept 46. Probably just went 12 for 32 and 34.

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I love the courage to trade with division rivals. It's refreshing. However, I hated the value of the Detroit trade. We fleeced the Pukers.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

I'm not sure if Jameson Williams is a slam dunk.

He was the 4th WR selected and a team(Saints) with a pretty good GM moved up to grab Olave instead of him.

I agree but he has the potential to be the best player in the draft too. He wasn't the only player we passed on, there were 19 others. I think we could have gotten Cine with our 2nd or a player very comparable. Jalne Pitre for example. Or made a small trade up for him.

I don't care what chart you use Kwesi got schooled, big time. No one in Detroit is complaining about the trade?

It feels like we lost a first round pick in this draft.

Yep.

We should have kept 46. Probably just went 12 for 32 and 34.

Now we're cooking. Use all of our 6th and 7th rounders to from 46 too!

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.
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It seems unlikely that a new regime would take that route. They’ve obviously studied film, but since Zim rarely played last year’s draft picks, Kwesi and company don’t have a real sense of what they’re working with. Better to add more players and hope they fill out the roster. With a season under their belts, I could see a very different approach to next year’s draft.

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If the Cubs can win the World Series...

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

I'm not sure if Jameson Williams is a slam dunk.

He was the 4th WR selected and a team(Saints) with a pretty good GM moved up to grab Olave instead of him.

I agree but he has the potential to be the best player in the draft too. He wasn't the only player we passed on, there were 19 others. I think we could have gotten Cine with our 2nd or a player very comparable. Jalne Pitre for example. Or made a small trade up for him.

I don't care what chart you use Kwesi got schooled, big time. No one in Detroit is complaining about the trade?

It feels like we lost a first round pick in this draft.

Yep.

We should have kept 46. Probably just went 12 for 32 and 34.

Now we're cooking. Use all of our 6th and 7th rounders to from 46 too!

If you are in early 2nd Round and you start offering multiple 6th and 7th rounders to move up, I think you will here a click on your phone.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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word is that reed has been taking some snaps at center...it would be great if right guard was a competition between ingram and wyatt davis, and reed versus bradbury in the middle....

i'm still a little disappointed about not drafting jameson Williams, but the truth is, kwesi did what i always wanted spielman to do; trade back and focus on the 2nd round, and he damn near almost ended up with four 2nd round picks....

Yes, good point.

Kwesi doesn't have a track record so it's hard to judge how well he did with big reach Ingram and small reach Asamoah ... but its hard to argue with the positions we addressed also.

Some say Ingram is stout in pass protection, but not great at the second level. Clearly not someone we would have been interested in during the Kubiak era. Character issues aside, I'm glad we're trying something different.

But we really haven't done anything different, we still have multiple 6's and a 7th.

What would have been different and excited me is if we had Williams plus everyone we drafted and only one or 2 picks today. I wouldn't even care if that was our entire draft and had no picks today.

Just once, I'd like to see a draft where we make multiple trades and all of them are trade ups and end up with 6 or less picks.

Quality over quantity.

Now that would be different. This feels like same ole same old.

We moved up in the second, gained another second , moved up to the second pick of the 3rd and reduced the number of 6th round picks in the process. That's very different.