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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

Pagan gets 4 outs and Duran saves a third straight day. Kirilloff big day.
Buxton hitting under .150 vs lefties for the season, now under .200 for the year. .160 each of the last 2 months
Mercy IL him. He is not helping

at all

Could not agree more on Buxton.

We aren't paying this guy to flail away helplessly as the DH.

We need to get him fully healthy (if that's even possible) and get him ready to play CF every game in 2024.

We need to get him away from Poppykins....Enough of this try to hit everything from here to Canada.

If he's not healthy enough to throw a baseball, or play in CF and he's not contributing in a positive way at the plate other than the occasional ding dong, he shouldn't be playing at all. Right now he's basically Sano. and that is not good,


Time for a rest. and don't let him back until he can play CF everyday.

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ORIGINAL: MDK

Guardians: thank God for Buxton.

What a mess.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

The starting rotation has been awful coming out of the break. Hopefully Ober can get them back on track. If the starters fade, it's going to be long second half.

Buck, now has an OPS below .700. Either he has an injury being kept secret or he simply can't adjust to being a DH. Last night Julien and Kirilloff were a combined 5 for 9 with a walk and a strike out. Correa and Buxton were a combined 1 for 9 with a walk and 6 strike outs. THAT is the problem with this lineup.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

The starting rotation has been awful coming out of the break. Hopefully Ober can get them back on track. If the starters fade, it's going to be long second half.

Buck, now has an OPS below .700. Either he has an injury being kept secret or he simply can't adjust to being a DH. Last night Julien and Kirilloff were a combined 5 for 9 with a walk and a strike out. Correa and Buxton were a combined 1 for 9 with a walk and 6 strike outs. THAT is the problem with this lineup.

Or he's on the wrong side of 27, which is the peak age for a professional baseball player.

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Guardians: thank God for Buxton.

What a mess.

I held out longer than most from complaining about Buxton DHing/not playing CF. As the season wore on and it became apparent he wasn’t going to ever play in the field, I said “Okay this is where we’re at. So be it”. If he could still be productive at the plate he’d still be useful, though his value would be decreased.

But his lack of production, combined with insistence on DHing him and batting him 3rd is causing a destructive domino effect to the lineup. The DH position and the #3 position could be put to so much better use.

The announcers on FS1 last night were spot on. After swinging through a fat flat fastball, they noted if Buxton is healthy, he puts that in the 3rd deck.

I tend to agree. He’s still not right physically. Yes he’s always been streaky, but this is something more. I don’t know what the answer is, but trotting him out there every day and hoping for miracles isn’t it.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Buxton probably needs to be a platoon DH, that's fine for big money teams, that's a disaster for the Twins.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Happy birthday Phil!

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Buxton probably needs to be a platoon DH, that's fine for big money teams, that's a disaster for the Twins.

Buxton's splits against LHP are even worse than they are against RHP.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It looked like Ober was going to continue the rotations string of poor starts. He held the Mariners to 3 runs in the first thanks to a couple of put outs at the plate. Many Acta was doing his best Tommy Watkins imitation, sending runners to an untimely demise. After that Ober settled in and registered a quality start.

The Julien/Kirilloff combo went 6 for 9 with a walk, 6 runs scored and 3 rbi.

Correa's and Kepler's numbers are slowly trending up.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It looked like Ober was going to continue the rotations string of poor starts. He held the Mariners to 3 runs in the first thanks to a couple of put outs at the plate. Many Acta was doing his best Tommy Watkins imitation, sending runners to an untimely demise. After that Ober settled in and registered a quality start.

The Julien/Kirilloff combo went 6 for 9 with a walk, 6 runs scored and 3 rbi.

Correa's and Kepler's numbers are slowly trending up.

Julien was 3 for 5 with a home run and 3 runs scored, and Rocco PINCH HIT FOR HIM. Even better, the Pinch hitter STRUCK OUT IIRC

a left handed batter cannot get better at hitting lefthanders if he never gets to hit against lefthanders.

Julien is good enough as a hitter that he can probably get pretty good at hitting lefthanders if given the chance.

I have a friend that is relentlessly defending Pagan....and he pitched a good inning...but I had to point out that Pagan is fine if there is no pressure. He had a five run lead. No pressure really. One run lead? He probably gives up three runs.

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It looked like Ober was going to continue the rotations string of poor starts. He held the Mariners to 3 runs in the first thanks to a couple of put outs at the plate. Many Acta was doing his best Tommy Watkins imitation, sending runners to an untimely demise. After that Ober settled in and registered a quality start.

The Julien/Kirilloff combo went 6 for 9 with a walk, 6 runs scored and 3 rbi.

Correa's and Kepler's numbers are slowly trending up.

Julien was 3 for 5 with a home run and 3 runs scored, and Rocco PINCH HIT FOR HIM. Even better, the Pinch hitter STRUCK OUT IIRC

a left handed batter cannot get better at hitting lefthanders if he never gets to hit against lefthanders.

Julien is good enough as a hitter that he can probably get pretty good at hitting lefthanders if given the chance.

I have a friend that is relentlessly defending Pagan....and he pitched a good inning...but I had to point out that Pagan is fine if there is no pressure. He had a five run lead. No pressure really. One run lead? He probably gives up three runs.

Is your friend Falvey, Levine or Rocco?

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It looked like Ober was going to continue the rotations string of poor starts. He held the Mariners to 3 runs in the first thanks to a couple of put outs at the plate. Many Acta was doing his best Tommy Watkins imitation, sending runners to an untimely demise. After that Ober settled in and registered a quality start.

The Julien/Kirilloff combo went 6 for 9 with a walk, 6 runs scored and 3 rbi.

Correa's and Kepler's numbers are slowly trending up.

Julien was 3 for 5 with a home run and 3 runs scored, and Rocco PINCH HIT FOR HIM. Even better, the Pinch hitter STRUCK OUT IIRC

a left handed batter cannot get better at hitting lefthanders if he never gets to hit against lefthanders.

Julien is good enough as a hitter that he can probably get pretty good at hitting lefthanders if given the chance.

I have a friend that is relentlessly defending Pagan....and he pitched a good inning...but I had to point out that Pagan is fine if there is no pressure. He had a five run lead. No pressure really. One run lead? He probably gives up three runs.

Is your friend Falvey, Levine or Rocco?

No, but he believes he is God's gift of baseball knowledge to the Earth.

It's quite annoying at times.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: MDK

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

It looked like Ober was going to continue the rotations string of poor starts. He held the Mariners to 3 runs in the first thanks to a couple of put outs at the plate. Many Acta was doing his best Tommy Watkins imitation, sending runners to an untimely demise. After that Ober settled in and registered a quality start.

The Julien/Kirilloff combo went 6 for 9 with a walk, 6 runs scored and 3 rbi.

Correa's and Kepler's numbers are slowly trending up.

Julien was 3 for 5 with a home run and 3 runs scored, and Rocco PINCH HIT FOR HIM. Even better, the Pinch hitter STRUCK OUT IIRC

a left handed batter cannot get better at hitting lefthanders if he never gets to hit against lefthanders.

Julien is good enough as a hitter that he can probably get pretty good at hitting lefthanders if given the chance.

I have a friend that is relentlessly defending Pagan....and he pitched a good inning...but I had to point out that Pagan is fine if there is no pressure. He had a five run lead. No pressure really. One run lead? He probably gives up three runs.

Is your friend Falvey, Levine or Rocco?

No, but he believes he is God's gift of baseball knowledge to the Earth.

It's quite annoying at times.

It isn't only that; the kid has hit against Lefties just like Kiriloff....almost like Rocco prefers Strikeouts to making contact. I know Julien's defense isn't great but that can be worked on also (by playing him).

Julien, Wallner, Lewis, and Kirilloff should play almost every day.

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If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.