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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 11:00:22 AM   
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If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.


Rocco's head would explode at the very idea.

TK used the last week of the season to start the process with Viola and Blyleven making their last starts on 3 days rest, so they would be in routine when the playoffs started. Rocco would have a brain aneurysm trying to figure that out.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 12:45:25 PM   
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 1:38:35 PM   
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Dallas Keuchel has a 0.90 ERA with the Saints.


Not a bad start.

4 starts, 20 innings, 17 Ks, 8 BBs, 4 Runs (2 earned), 2 HRs.

I guess its worth keeping an eye on.

He pitched well in AAA last year too, but got shelled with both big league clubs he pitched for.
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 2:48:11 PM   
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If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.


And in TK’s day, the top two or three were head and shoulders better than the rest so he had no choice anyway. Look at the ‘87 roster. #3 starter was Les Straker, and after that it was pretty much get someone off the street.

Now you’ve got 5 who are ok’ish to pretty good at times. So no need to pick out 3 of them.


Didn't they bring in the ghost of Niekro and Carlton that year also to no avail?

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 5:36:00 PM   
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Dallas Keuchel has a 0.90 ERA with the Saints.


Not a bad start.

4 starts, 20 innings, 17 Ks, 8 BBs, 4 Runs (2 earned), 2 HRs.

I guess its worth keeping an eye on.

He pitched well in AAA last year too, but got shelled with both big league clubs he pitched for.



Has an opt out this week. Currently scheduled to go for the Saints Saturday Night.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 5:37:33 PM   
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If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.


And in TK’s day, the top two or three were head and shoulders better than the rest so he had no choice anyway. Look at the ‘87 roster. #3 starter was Les Straker, and after that it was pretty much get someone off the street.

Now you’ve got 5 who are ok’ish to pretty good at times. So no need to pick out 3 of them.


Didn't they bring in the ghost of Niekro and Carlton that year also to no avail?


Yes

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/20/2023 6:08:12 PM   
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Dallas Keuchel has a 0.90 ERA with the Saints.


Not a bad start.

4 starts, 20 innings, 17 Ks, 8 BBs, 4 Runs (2 earned), 2 HRs.

I guess its worth keeping an eye on.

He pitched well in AAA last year too, but got shelled with both big league clubs he pitched for.



Has an opt out this week. Currently scheduled to go for the Saints Saturday Night.

I gotta believe another team will take him and put him on the major league roster.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 7:26:35 AM   
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How do you think Kirilloff and Julien are doing this month? Specifically the two players that gained playing time by the Arreaz deal.

2B Julien
WAR 1.4
HR 9
R 25
RBI 16
OBP .391
SLG .566
OPS .957
OPS+ 162

1B Kirilloff
WAR 0.5
HR 7
R 21
RBI 27
OBP .370
SLG .447
OPS .817
OPS+ 126

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 8:55:49 AM   
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Dallas Keuchel has a 0.90 ERA with the Saints.


Not a bad start.

4 starts, 20 innings, 17 Ks, 8 BBs, 4 Runs (2 earned), 2 HRs.

I guess its worth keeping an eye on.

He pitched well in AAA last year too, but got shelled with both big league clubs he pitched for.



Has an opt out this week. Currently scheduled to go for the Saints Saturday Night.

I gotta believe another team will take him and put him on the major league roster.


He could be a great mid inning guy; similar to Colin McHugh...come in and eat 2-3 innings. I don't think you want him pitching more than once thru the order.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 9:21:31 AM   
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He could be a great mid inning guy; similar to Colin McHugh...come in and eat 2-3 innings. I don't think you want him pitching more than once thru the order.


Then he's a waste at this point, since Rocco would use him once every 4-5 days
Like he does with Sands and Balazovic.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 9:22:28 AM   
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Good for him, cuz when he gets back Rocco will work him into the ground again.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 9:24:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Buxton ofer in the 5 hole glaring, but the rest of the team was clueless against Kirby; they get another chance to flail at Target next week.

Correa didn't play for first time since late June. Kepler PH late

Two of the guys of late doing something. And Rocco rested them both to see zip.

Wallner isn't driving the ball. His ship sailed in AAA; was cooling down there, so the Twins wasted a hot streak. Good job.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 9:25:18 AM   
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Miss Rate (Relievers) 2023 Season

1. Felix Bautista - 44.6%
2. Brock Stewart - 42.6%
3. Aroldis Chapman - 42.3%
4. Devin Williams - 41.6%
5. Alex Lange - 41.1%

Top reliever duos, steamer ROS projections

1) SEA Andrés Muñoz & Matt Brash
2) MIN Jhoan Duran & Brock Stewart
3) STL Jordan Hicks & Ryan Helsley
4) BAL Félix Bautista & Yennier Cano

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 11:10:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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If playoffs started today...who are your 3 starters? I go Pablo, Ober, Gray, in that order. Joe Ryan has just been too bleh the last month compared to those guys.

In a playoff series, most teams go with 4 starters. The days of Tom Kelly arranging it so that Viola and Blyleven start 5 of 7 games are long gone.


And in TK’s day, the top two or three were head and shoulders better than the rest so he had no choice anyway. Look at the ‘87 roster. #3 starter was Les Straker, and after that it was pretty much get someone off the street.

Now you’ve got 5 who are ok’ish to pretty good at times. So no need to pick out 3 of them.


Didn't they bring in the ghost of Niekro and Carlton that year also to no avail?


And Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford too as I recall. If we could just get one more season out of them...
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 4:42:38 PM   
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 4:43:38 PM   
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1. Correa, SS
2. Julien, 2B
3. Kirilloff, 1B
4. Kepler, RF
5. Wallner, LF
6. Buxton, DH
7. Castro, 3B
8. Gallo, CF
9. Jeffers, C

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 4:44:43 PM   
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Pink Eye

Guess that's better than the stink eye

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 5:13:03 PM   
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Gallo in CF as they load up w/Lefties

1. Correa, SS
2. Julien, 2B
3. Kirilloff, 1B
4. Kepler, RF
5. Wallner, LF
6. Buxton, DH
7. Castro, 3B
8. Gallo, CF
9. Jeffers, C

The Phil profecy has been realized.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 5:17:07 PM   
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Gallo in CF as they load up w/Lefties

1. Correa, SS
2. Julien, 2B
3. Kirilloff, 1B
4. Kepler, RF
5. Wallner, LF
6. Buxton, DH
7. Castro, 3B
8. Gallo, CF
9. Jeffers, C

The Phil profecy has been realized.

Pink Eye was prob the first choice. Any chance to have a top lineup needs Buck in the field.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 7:42:04 PM   
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/21/2023 8:52:28 PM   
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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/22/2023 12:32:23 AM   
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Per Rocco/Doogie, Polanco will start at third Saturday for the Saints.

Translation: they know Julien's arm cannot work at 3B.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/22/2023 7:09:47 AM   
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Per Rocco/Doogie, Polanco will start at third Saturday for the Saints.

Translation: they know Julien's arm cannot work at 3B.

Translation: Julien took Polanco's job and Jorge will have to learn new positions to get on the field.

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/22/2023 7:40:55 AM   
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March/April: ERA 6.30, WHIP 1.60
May: ERA 3.09, WHIP 1.029
June: ERA 2.84, WHIP 0.868
July: ERA 1.13, WHIP 0.875

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RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread - 7/22/2023 8:12:09 AM   
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Buck with a second homer and Jeffers joins in. 7-4 Twins.


Fun to score 9 off Lance Lynn. Buxton king for a day.

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