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Not a surprise that they are taking their time with Kirilloff. Falvey said earlier this month that the surgery had to work because there is nothing else to try. He basically implied that if this didn't work, it's the end of the line for Kirilloff.

So in a few weeks the career is over.

Glad they had a back up plan.

And as for Raley

I'd rather they had taken him back to hit at AAA instead of some failed Brewers guy who looks like a beer leaguer and hits less than his weight. Embarrassing that he and Sabato are about all the depth they have.

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Twins manager Rocco Baldelli said he liked Gray's spirit, his eagerness to pitch well, though "it's my job to decide when they pitch, how long they pitch and how we win the games." Still, the manager said, "Sonny is a tremendous competitor and I want our guys to always want to be out there and get the next out."

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Twins manager Rocco Baldelli said he liked Gray's spirit, his eagerness to pitch well, though "it's my job to decide when they pitch, how long they pitch and how we win the games." Still, the manager said, "Sonny is a tremendous competitor and I want our guys to always want to be out there and get the next out."

Rocco

You really sucked at all of that last year.

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Sonny Gray disapproved of Twins' 2022 rotation plan
Newly acquired Twins pitcher Sonny Gray spoke with pitching coach Wes Johnson, left, during Tuesday’s workout.Newly acquired Twins pitcher Sonny Gray spoke with pitching coach Wes Johnson, left, during Tuesday’s workout.
— Jeff Wheeler, Star Tribune

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March 26, 2023 - 5:50 PM

FORT MYERS, FLA. – Sonny Gray pitched three hitless innings to help beat Boston on Sunday, then all but vowed it would be the last time this year that he does that.

Not the hitless part. The knock-off-early part.

"I don't think we're interested in going four innings and being happy. I feel like we had a group last year that was pretty content with going four innings, [where] four innings and five innings is considered a good start," Gray said of the Twins' 2022 rotation, which had 110 starts that lasted five innings or fewer, more than any other MLB team. "I disagreed with that then. I disagree with that now, but I feel like just the guys we have aren't content with it either, which is what you want as a rotation."

Gray himself threw a pitch in the sixth inning or later in only nine of his 24 starts last season, after the shortened spring training gave him too little time to prepare for the season. That's completely different this year, Gray said, and he's ready to shoulder a more normal burden.

"My stuff is good. Filling up the zone with all pitches is important, just filling up the zone and attacking guys," Gray said after striking out four Boston hitters and finishing spring training with a 1.86 ERA in four starts. "I feel like my put-away pitches, my two-strike pitches, are in a much better spot than they have been in a couple years."

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He's eager to see what the rest of the rotation can do, too.

"The potential is — obviously, you can see it. We'll see how it all shakes out. I do know that everybody wants it, especially after last year," Gray said. "You want to build off each other. You don't want to go out there and throw four innings and walk away happy about it."

Twins manager Rocco Baldelli said he liked Gray's spirit, his eagerness to pitch well, though "it's my job to decide when they pitch, how long they pitch and how we win the games." Still, the manager said, "Sonny is a tremendous competitor and I want our guys to always want to be out there and get the next out."

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By PHIL MILLER , STAR TRIBUNE
March 26, 2023 - 5:50 PM

FORT MYERS, FLA. – Sonny Gray pitched three hitless innings to help beat Boston on Sunday, then all but vowed it would be the last time this year that he does that.

Not the hitless part. The knock-off-early part.

"I don't think we're interested in going four innings and being happy. I feel like we had a group last year that was pretty content with going four innings, [where] four innings and five innings is considered a good start," Gray said of the Twins' 2022 rotation, which had 110 starts that lasted five innings or fewer, more than any other MLB team. "I disagreed with that then. I disagree with that now, but I feel like just the guys we have aren't content with it either, which is what you want as a rotation."

Gray himself threw a pitch in the sixth inning or later in only nine of his 24 starts last season, after the shortened spring training gave him too little time to prepare for the season. That's completely different this year, Gray said, and he's ready to shoulder a more normal burden.

"My stuff is good. Filling up the zone with all pitches is important, just filling up the zone and attacking guys," Gray said after striking out four Boston hitters and finishing spring training with a 1.86 ERA in four starts. "I feel like my put-away pitches, my two-strike pitches, are in a much better spot than they have been in a couple years."

Souhan: Minnesota sports power trio now, but back then just three guys with big ideas
He's eager to see what the rest of the rotation can do, too.

"The potential is — obviously, you can see it. We'll see how it all shakes out. I do know that everybody wants it, especially after last year," Gray said. "You want to build off each other. You don't want to go out there and throw four innings and walk away happy about it."

Twins manager Rocco Baldelli said he liked Gray's spirit, his eagerness to pitch well, though "it's my job to decide when they pitch, how long they pitch and how we win the games." Still, the manager said, "Sonny is a tremendous competitor and I want our guys to always want to be out there and get the next out."

I think it's great that the 4-inning wonders, Archer and Bundy, have been shown the door. We're gonna see guys pitch into the 7th much more often this year.

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I don't expect much will change. Yes the 4 inning wonder Archer is gone. But I bet Rocco still will not give starters much leeway to pitch longer. After 80 pitches or so he'll get yanked regardless of score or how he's doing.

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I don't expect much will change. Yes the 4 inning wonder Archer is gone. But I bet Rocco still will not give starters much leeway to pitch longer. After 80 pitches or so he'll get yanked regardless of score or how he's doing.

I can see what Archer and Bundy can do to a manager....Sonny also admitted earlier he wasn't ready for the 2022 season. The Players Association said they would have time to get ready and they ended up with a week.

So you add those up and it makes sense why Rocco pulled 3 pitchers early.

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I don't expect much will change. Yes the 4 inning wonder Archer is gone. But I bet Rocco still will not give starters much leeway to pitch longer. After 80 pitches or so he'll get yanked regardless of score or how he's doing.

I can see what Archer and Bundy can do to a manager....Sonny also admitted earlier he wasn't ready for the 2022 season. The Players Association said they would have time to get ready and they ended up with a week.

So you add those up and it makes sense why Rocco pulled 3 pitchers early.

3?!?!?

THREE??

until late in the season it was EVERYONE almost every game

He got his panties in a knot over being questioned. YOU SUCKED LAST YEAR AT MANAGING!!!

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I don't expect much will change. Yes the 4 inning wonder Archer is gone. But I bet Rocco still will not give starters much leeway to pitch longer. After 80 pitches or so he'll get yanked regardless of score or how he's doing.

I can see what Archer and Bundy can do to a manager....Sonny also admitted earlier he wasn't ready for the 2022 season. The Players Association said they would have time to get ready and they ended up with a week.

So you add those up and it makes sense why Rocco pulled 3 pitchers early.

3?!?!?

THREE??

until late in the season it was EVERYONE almost every game

He got his panties in a knot over being questioned. YOU SUCKED LAST YEAR AT MANAGING!!!

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We need to make predictions today.

I'll say 84 wins.

RP pick to click, other than Duran, is Jax.

SP Pablo Lopez. Looking forward to watching a right-handed changeup that's on par with or better than Brad Radke's. Being from Venezuela, he also has a little Johan in him.

Gallo, Miranda and Correa should all have good years. I like Gallo's on-base ability and patience, even if it results in lots of strikeouts. Hope he doesn't get stuck playing 1B very often, because he's a great corner outfielder. Nice to have some depth there with Larnach and Kepler too, for when one of them gets injured.