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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:19:44 PM   
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Every year this comes up.

There could be 20 compensatory picks in a round and we trade into the last one. Come hell or highwater, by god we stayed in the round even though value wise we ended up with the 20th pick in the NEXT round.

What matters is how many slots you move, the round is pretty much irrelevant when the comp picks start. However, the NFL calls it the 3rd, so it's the 3rd.


It matters when teams are using value charts, which they do. Unlike you, they likely factor in adjusting them especially as the pool of comp picks become an ever larger factor as the rounds go on. It's stuff over your head.

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Yep, you have nothing. Just don't trying assigning value to any trade from the 3rd round on and you'll be ok.



Not sure what you're getting at. Every pick has a value, the round is irrelevant. That being said, it doesn't appear that Queasy got good value here.

He gave up a pick worth 155 and received 92+24.6+1.1= 117.7

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Right, I don't get trade chart value, right... Like I said before the round doesn't matter as much as the # of spots you move, but it's still the 3rd round.



Don't know how simple I can make it: value wise, like when you access a value chart w/o comp picks to see the points on a trade, you'd have to look at the 7th spot in the 4th to see how much it's worth.

By not doing that, every pick does NOT have a value. The comp picks have to be factored in. Everything slips backwards.

The chart you reference, which I use and have posted here twice the last couple of days, does factor the comp picks in. Many don't. If they don't it's a 4th, point wise.

I don't know how simple I can make it. The round doesn't matter in the value it's the # of slots between picks. However when talking about which round a pick is in, I will defer to the terminology used by the GD league that runs the draft, not your interpretation of what you think it should be.

100% agreement. So now you probably need to change your mind since I agree with you.

Aww, you're not all bad.

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:23:31 PM   
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Guess Kwesi has identified a couple of special prospects that nobody else would dare take
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:23:37 PM   
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Ten bucks says kwesi grabs a blocking tight end…
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:25:03 PM   
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Ten bucks says kwesi grabs a blocking tight end…


Double or nothing that he's injured.
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:25:19 PM   
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It just feels like we are one of those "playing for a participation ribbon" competitors.



there is no one that kwesi loves in this draft....

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:27:47 PM   
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Seems like another terrible draft
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:31:25 PM   
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Skor North commentary on the 3rd round CB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6eP6N2zI54

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:31:44 PM   
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Puts new meaning into being patient and letting the draft come to him.
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:36:08 PM   
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Something weird happened... the pick is in.
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:37:01 PM   
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Something weird happened... the pick is in.


Whaaaa?

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:37:42 PM   
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CB again... or he's a S.

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:41:32 PM   
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“Versatility is his key attribute”

Lol
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:42:11 PM   
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All right, 5th round! How many picks do we have, like six?
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:43:56 PM   
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“Versatility is his key attribute”

Lol


How about we get a guard who plays guard? Or a dt who plays dt? It must not be that easy, I guess.
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:46:05 PM   
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“Versatility is his key attribute”

Lol


How about we get a guard who plays guard? Or a dt who plays dt? It must not be that easy, I guess.

We small minded, non analytical thinkers, don’t see the subtleties
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:48:49 PM   
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It's like the old USAF saying:

Flexibility is the key to airpower...
Indecision is the key to flexibility.
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:49:01 PM   
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20 picks away x 5min = ugh, I might as well go clean something
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:54:58 PM   
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20 picks away x 5min = ugh, I might as well go clean something


Ha! I just mopped the kitchen and bathroom while I had the free time.
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:56:29 PM   
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20 picks away x 5min = ugh, I might as well go clean something

Prob 2-3 mins a pick.

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:58:06 PM   
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Oh, Lord. We traded up!
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 12:59:16 PM   
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QB?

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 1:00:30 PM   
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Oh boy we missed out on DTR
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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 1:01:20 PM   
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Jay Ward from LSU looks like a pretty good player for our new D. Did they announce him as a CB? I think he played more S at LSU, but it may not matter.

And we traded up in the 5th round for....Jaquelin (juh-qway-lin) Roy, DT LSU. I hope they both pan out as well as Danielle Hunter has.

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 1:01:59 PM   
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Re: Ward

Two notes from Lance Zierlein that caught my attention:

Positive - “Versatile defensive back with a fearless playing mentality.“
Negative - “Frame doesn’t fully match his ferocity.“

Apparently he’s a super aggressive DB who is a fierce tackler and a big hitter. There’s no doubt that Flores has designated the guys he wants for his scheme and Kwesi is obliging him. I don’t care where these guys are “supposed” to get drafted, I just love the fact that our defense is going to be incredibly aggressive next year! What a change a year will make.

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RE: 2023 NFL Draft - 4/29/2023 1:02:01 PM   
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DT from LSU. Roy. I’ll have to look him up.
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