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ORIGINAL: marty

Donatell was horrible, Flores is average, might never be great.

It's hard to evaluate coaches when you have a QB that sees things slowly, has no pocket presence, has many throws that are late, but looks ok at times because he has a good arm that can make accurate throws.

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ORIGINAL: marty

I have a feeling the Vikings will trade up or just draft Drake May, and he will be a bust.

The QB to get is Caleb Williams.

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ORIGINAL: marty

New Orleans and the NY Jets might be interested in Kirk.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

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ORIGINAL: geoffrey greitzer

...on the second and goal at half yard line..
jj, obsobone, and Addison not on the field.

unbelievably bad.. Cine, booth...any other team with first and second round picks in second year not playing...

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ORIGINAL: geoffrey greitzer

Can anyone tell me why...
2nd and goal at half yard line..and u cant do a sneak??

If Kirk cant do it put a bigger guy in..
I dont understand y coaches cant have a designated sneak play.
A strong guy that practices that play with a huge guy behind him to push.

God knows Minnesota will ever have a big mean center of the OL.

Play calling sucks and Kwesi double sucks

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: geoffrey greitzer

Can anyone tell me why...
2nd and goal at half yard line..and u cant do a sneak??

If Kirk cant do it put a bigger guy in..
I dont understand y coaches cant have a designated sneak play.
A strong guy that practices that play with a huge guy behind him to push.

God knows Minnesota will ever have a big mean center of the OL.

Play calling sucks and Kwesi double sucks

Good Lord, you’re wondering why we don’t ‘sneak into the endzone’ behind cleveland schlottman ingram?

Just which sneaky ginormous person did you have in mind? Galactus?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

#2 is not true. I started counting one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, three-one-thousand, etc... out loud in the stands. Sometimes I got to six-one-thousand at the sack. Pressure is going to get home on a percentage of plays for every team. Our pressure was just as good as theirs but Herbert maneuvered in the pocket like a pro. Going into yesterday's game the Vikes were #8 in the league in pressure allowed. A sack at the fifth second doesn't count as a pressure.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

#2 is not true. I started counting one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, three-one-thousand, etc... out loud in the stands. Sometimes I got to six-one-thousand at the sack. Pressure is going to get home on a percentage of plays for every team. Our pressure was just as good as theirs but Herbert maneuvered in the pocket like a pro. Going into yesterday's game the Vikes were #8 in the league in pressure allowed. A sack at the fifth second doesn't count as a pressure.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

#2 is not true. I started counting one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, three-one-thousand, etc... out loud in the stands. Sometimes I got to six-one-thousand at the sack. Pressure is going to get home on a percentage of plays for every team. Our pressure was just as good as theirs but Herbert maneuvered in the pocket like a pro. Going into yesterday's game the Vikes were #8 in the league in pressure allowed. A sack at the fifth second doesn't count as a pressure.

Maybe I heard it wrong but if not, Leber doesnt agree with you:

https://x.com/nacholeber/status/1706063675855937768?s=20

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

#2 is not true. I started counting one-one-thousand, two-one-thousand, three-one-thousand, etc... out loud in the stands. Sometimes I got to six-one-thousand at the sack. Pressure is going to get home on a percentage of plays for every team. Our pressure was just as good as theirs but Herbert maneuvered in the pocket like a pro. Going into yesterday's game the Vikes were #8 in the league in pressure allowed. A sack at the fifth second doesn't count as a pressure.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My feelings on the game


1. I love JJ, Addison is showing up big time. Loved KJ's superman impression on the TD. Mattison was running like a beast

2. That's about where the good ends. Kirk was under duress almost instantly at the snap on nearly every single drop back. It was beyond terrible.

3. Byron Murphy was abused, exposed, and used. They were picking on him almost exclusively. He was never in a position to make a play and the Coaches never changed a thing.

4. Akayleb, Young man, if the ball hits you in the hands, you need to catch it.

5. Can anyone on the Vikings cover Keenan Allen? Or Mike Williams for that matter?

6. OK. So my 9 year old daughter, who could not care less about football, could run a better two-minute drill than these guys. That was embarassing.

7. Chargers were stupid to go for it on 4th down late in the game at that position on the field. Analytics be damned, they should have forced the Vikings to drive the entire field to get the winning score with little time left and no timeouts. Hell, the way the Vikings did the Two minute drill before the half it was clear they didn't have a clue how to do that. It's only our idiocy in this two minute drill that saved their butts.



This was a team loss. The offense did not look particularly effective against the 32nd ranked defense to that point. The Defense gave up 18 catches and 215 yards to ONE GUY. Over 100 to another and put NO PRESSURE on Herbert despite blitzing more than 50%of the time.

Kirk Cousins is not the QB to carry this team to the promised land. That being said he did make a lot of good throws but was late throwing too many times and when it really mattered, in the final two minutes, he looked like a blithering idiot. any other 12 year veteran knows to get up there and spike the ball....

This season is effectively over. We should win against Carolina but the way we're playing now we wont. and the following week we will not beat the chiefs. So best case we're 1-4. May as well start shopping Hunter, Osborn, and anyone else not named JJ.

Good post.

Do you want Queasy making the trades?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Time to shop Hunter.

Agreed

Hard to believe 3 games in and no one else with a sack

I will say it again. This is the worst front 7 in football

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Kwesi looking like garbage in a hurry.

Serious lack of talent on the field.

Wasting time on bringing in a running back.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Kwesi looking like garbage in a hurry.

Serious lack of talent on the field.

Wasting time on bringing in a running back.

He had to swap draft picks to bring in a backup RB because he whiffed in the draft on the RB he selected. Quesy has no business evaluating and drafting players. He has no experience evaluating players so it's hardly a surprise that he's very bad at it. Fire him now and hire a GM with experience evaluating QB's because that's where this is headed at the end of the season.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Cards 15-3 over Dallas. We could be top 5 in draft order by tonight!