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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

re: half full kinda guy

ha ha! I appreciate what feels like a compliment. I personally think it's a competitive thing

Turn that shit in to ice cream, Dan. It can be done

That's not some ice cream that I would care to eat. 😒

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

re: We are not good. I doubt we are getting Williams.

Reading that from Mark over in the gameday thread had me wondering, not only how I think the season is going to play out, but how others think, too, if they were truly objective about it.

In the NFC, out of 4 divisions there are 3 teams with 5 wins, 0 teams with 4 wins, and 7 teams with 3 wins, then there's the Vikings and Packers with 2 wins and 4 others. So we're a game out of the playoffs - not including tie-breakers at this point.

I keep thinking this team is going to turn it around/on somewhere going forward. I'm influenced by "the bad stuff can't keep happening" like last year, and "the good stuff could not sustain itself." I guess, for me, it's one of those years where I won't be surprised by anything.

Come back to the middle and playoffs is a possibility.

Of course the odds would favor a one-and-done .... but who know's, maybe we can squeak one out - and get one of those QBs at 18 that no one would have guessed would "be that good"

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

re: We are not good. I doubt we are getting Williams.

Reading that from Mark over in the gameday thread had me wondering, not only how I think the season is going to play out, but how others think, too, if they were truly objective about it.

In the NFC, out of 4 divisions there are 3 teams with 5 wins, 0 teams with 4 wins, and 7 teams with 3 wins, then there's the Vikings and Packers with 2 wins and 4 others. So we're a game out of the playoffs - not including tie-breakers at this point.

I keep thinking this team is going to turn it around/on somewhere going forward. I'm influenced by "the bad stuff can't keep happening" like last year, and "the good stuff could not sustain itself." I guess, for me, it's one of those years where I won't be surprised by anything.

Come back to the middle and playoffs is a possibility.

Of course the odds would favor a one-and-done .... but who know's, maybe we can squeak one out - and get one of those QBs at 18 that no one would have guessed would "be that good"

Who's being objective and who isn't?

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

re: We are not good. I doubt we are getting Williams.

Reading that from Mark over in the gameday thread had me wondering, not only how I think the season is going to play out, but how others think, too, if they were truly objective about it.

In the NFC, out of 4 divisions there are 3 teams with 5 wins, 0 teams with 4 wins, and 7 teams with 3 wins, then there's the Vikings and Packers with 2 wins and 4 others. So we're a game out of the playoffs - not including tie-breakers at this point.

I keep thinking this team is going to turn it around/on somewhere going forward. I'm influenced by "the bad stuff can't keep happening" like last year, and "the good stuff could not sustain itself." I guess, for me, it's one of those years where I won't be surprised by anything.

Come back to the middle and playoffs is a possibility.

Of course the odds would favor a one-and-done .... but who know's, maybe we can squeak one out - and get one of those QBs at 18 that no one would have guessed would "be that good"

Who's being objective and who isn't?

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ORIGINAL: marty

Creed leads to Vikings win:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-believes-blasting-creed-pushed-vikings-to-week-6-victory-it-made-the-difference/

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

keep thinking this team is going to turn it around/on somewhere going forward. I'm influenced by "the bad stuff can't keep happening"


I tend to agree with statement but I'm really getting concerned about KOC's coaching.

Terrible use of TO's
Questionable gameplan and play calling at times. Barely any creativity and when there is, it's more on ST's

He seems to have regressed and that play calling and check downs are not 100% on KC's. He was billed as some kind of "offensive genius". Billick was the same with Moss and Carter. Look what his offenses looked like in Bmore. JJ covers up a LOT.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

keep thinking this team is going to turn it around/on somewhere going forward. I'm influenced by "the bad stuff can't keep happening"


I tend to agree with statement but I'm really getting concerned about KOC's coaching.

Terrible use of TO's
Questionable gameplan and play calling at times. Barely any creativity and when there is, it's more on ST's

He seems to have regressed and that play calling and check downs are not 100% on KC's. He was billed as some kind of "offensive genius". Billick was the same with Moss and Carter. Look what his offenses looked like in Bmore. JJ covers up a LOT.

I think he has way too much responsibility. The guy has never called plays and suddenly he's the HC and OC?

It feels like he's in over his head and its just steamrolling him at this point.

And his clock management is Zimmeresque.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

keep thinking this team is going to turn it around/on somewhere going forward. I'm influenced by "the bad stuff can't keep happening"


I tend to agree with statement but I'm really getting concerned about KOC's coaching.

Terrible use of TO's
Questionable gameplan and play calling at times. Barely any creativity and when there is, it's more on ST's

He seems to have regressed and that play calling and check downs are not 100% on KC's. He was billed as some kind of "offensive genius". Billick was the same with Moss and Carter. Look what his offenses looked like in Bmore. JJ covers up a LOT.

I think he has way too much responsibility. The guy has never called plays and suddenly he's the HC and OC?

It feels like he's in over his head and its just steamrolling him at this point.

And his clock management is Zimmeresque.

Which begs the question, why would you not have a clock mgn guy on the sideline or in your ear? You have a coach for everything else.

Ego?

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: marty

Creed leads to Vikings win:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-believes-blasting-creed-pushed-vikings-to-week-6-victory-it-made-the-difference/

More proof that Jesus boy is a cancer and an idiot…

“ it was the Jesus music that made me able to pad my stats with one touchdown and “ lead” the team on offense to 2 field goals.. all glory to god and Jesus, for I am a righteous saved Christian..”

Barf..

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

The defense at least has an excuse since it his first year and looks to be maxed with its talent and putting new pieces in (Blackmon, Roy, Pace, Carter, and made players like Hicks and Smith playing at a higher level).

Addison and Akers should be unleashed by now and TJ/Mattison seem to have taken steps back.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

Or this year is ...

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

The defense at least has an excuse since it his first year and looks to be maxed with its talent and putting new pieces in (Blackmon, Roy, Pace, Carter, and made players like Hicks and Smith playing at a higher level).

Addison and Akers should be unleashed by now and TJ/Mattison seem to have taken steps back.

Last years defense has the same excuse as it was Donnatell's first year, PLUS significantly the 3-4 was brand new, PLUS there was a far greater number of new faces last year.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

Or this year is ...

Who knows, but 11-0 in one score games is a record for a reason.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

The defense at least has an excuse since it his first year and looks to be maxed with its talent and putting new pieces in (Blackmon, Roy, Pace, Carter, and made players like Hicks and Smith playing at a higher level).

Addison and Akers should be unleashed by now and TJ/Mattison seem to have taken steps back.

Last years defense has the same excuse as it was Donnatell's first year, PLUS significantly the 3-4 was brand new, PLUS there was a far greater number of new faces last year.

I think we are better against the pass this year from what I have seen. We basically held KC in check except for those two plays (the 3rd and 18 just over Bynum's hands to Ross and the questionable sideline catch by Watson).

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Not sure why people have to criticize those who have a different take on 13-4 like anybody who mentioned it in a negative manner is some kind of stupid idiot. It was a mirage year that ended in a predictable one-and-done, with 'He Threw Short of the Sticks' Cousins driving in the final nail.

Sounds like a good time for everyone to call a truce on the 13-4 season to me. It was some fun for awhile, though

Why squash debate on the most recent season? Some believe it's proof that KAM and KOC are doing something right. Others believe it was luck. Sometimes a few interesting facts pop up during a back and forth.

Besides, it's bound to come up. Something as innocuous as a Flores & Donnatell comparo or Kwesi's track record will almost assuredly expand and before long 13-4 (actually 13-5) is back in action.

It was mild fun. More like entertainment akin to a goofy, implausible comedy (not the best analogy). Or yeah the craziness continues for another week. And the resulting 13-4 record made things worse in a way because it was going to be a scenario where the team with the great record was going to get bounced in the playoffs. Fortunately, most national commentators and followers knew it was smoke and mirrors so it wasn't a big deal.

I don't want to squash it. It just seems like every time it comes up it's used as a means to make someone look stupid or silly for using it in any sort of debate.

It just seems like every time it comes up..., "seems" being the operative word.

Then again, in order to not look stupid or silly, maybe the 13-4 proponents can choose not to use it Anyway, with the vaunted second year in KOC's system and an upgrade at DC the team should be better than last year. Seeing that it's not is pretty indicative last year was a weird fluke.

Or this year is ...

Who knows, but 11-0 in one score games is a record for a reason.

That Jesus boy sure has his moments, huh?

Just curious, are we anywhere close to the turnover record to start a season?