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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 1:13:41 PM   
Mark Anderson

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Our defense kept us from starting 2-6. We damn near lost to the bears and league-worst panthers.


Those two one-score 'wins' prevented Minnesota from starting 0-6... could have really been in the running for Caleb Williams. Woulda, coulda, but those were the days.

It was quite the roller coaster of a year.

Poor start for team and Cousins

2 game stretch of Cousins playing great against good competition. Defense improved. (maybe get on a run)

Achilles

Passtronaut on fire

KOC turtling up(DEN and CHI) and momentum lost, Passtronaut reverting back to mean

Finally, defense breaking down and the gambler(Mullens) gives more than he takes. Hall is a project.

Pick #11
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 1:19:46 PM   
Ricky J


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Our defense kept us from starting 2-6. We damn near lost to the bears and league-worst panthers.


Those two one-score 'wins' prevented Minnesota from starting 0-6... could have really been in the running for Caleb Williams. Woulda, coulda, but those were the days.

It was quite the roller coaster of a year.

Poor start for team and Cousins

2 game stretch of Cousins playing great against good competition. Defense improved. (maybe get on a run)

Achilles

Passtronaut on fire

KOC turtling up(DEN and CHI) and momentum lost, Passtronaut reverting back to mean

Finally, defense breaking down and the gambler(Mullens) gives more than he takes. Hall is a project.

Pick #11

Nice objective summary
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 1:21:10 PM   
Ricky J


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ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 1:40:26 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Our defense kept us from starting 2-6. We damn near lost to the bears and league-worst panthers.


Those two one-score 'wins' prevented Minnesota from starting 0-6... could have really been in the running for Caleb Williams. Woulda, coulda, but those were the days.

It was quite the roller coaster of a year.

Poor start for team and Cousins

2 game stretch of Cousins playing great against good competition. Defense improved. (maybe get on a run)

Achilles

Passtronaut on fire

KOC turtling up(DEN and CHI) and momentum lost, Passtronaut reverting back to mean

Finally, defense breaking down and the gambler(Mullens) gives more than he takes. Hall is a project.

Pick #11

Yes, I agree as well.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 1:58:35 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 2:54:16 PM   
Daniel Lee Young

 

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69.5% of his throws and had 18 touchdown passes to five interceptions

Hard to imagine that couldn't of gotten you at least into the championship game, in this year's NFC, even for an ass‐kisser ...

Maybe if we played the exact same teams, under the exact same game and roster situations, and maybe I’d we shit in one hand and jerked off you know who with the other..


Butwhatabout…

Good grief..

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**** you all.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 3:38:02 PM   
Ricky J


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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

69.5% of his throws and had 18 touchdown passes to five interceptions

Hard to imagine that couldn't of gotten you at least into the championship game, in this year's NFC, even for an ass‐kisser ...

Maybe if we played the exact same teams, under the exact same game and roster situations, and maybe I’d we shit in one hand and jerked off you know who with the other..


Butwhatabout…

Good grief..

Hard to imagine beating SF, I know

whatever
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 3:39:12 PM   
Ricky J


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 4:07:21 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell

not necessary.

my opinion is there whether you read it or not.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 5:11:51 PM   
David F.


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Post the way I want you to post damn it!!!!!

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 6:20:28 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

69.5% of his throws and had 18 touchdown passes to five interceptions

Hard to imagine that couldn't of gotten you at least into the championship game, in this year's NFC, even for an ass‐kisser ...

Maybe if we played the exact same teams, under the exact same game and roster situations, and maybe I’d we shit in one hand and jerked off you know who with the other..


Butwhatabout…

Good grief..

Hard to imagine beating SF, I know

whatever


When they were in their slump.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 6:21:11 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell


You are big on PMs.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 6:55:21 PM   
marty


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Beating SF at home in a regular season game where Deebo and Trent Williams were out, easily translates to the Vikings beating SF (at SF) in a playoff game where those 2 were playing. The Vikings would definitely be in the Super Bowl.

It's similar to where Jeron Hall looked good for a couple of drives in his first start, so we knew he would perform well when recovered from injury, and given another chance to start.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 6:56:05 PM   
Ricky J


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell


You are big on PMs.

How many have you sent recently?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 7:15:34 PM   
Ricky J


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ORIGINAL: marty

Beating SF at home in a regular season game where Deebo and Trent Williams were out, easily translates to the Vikings beating SF (at SF) in a playoff game where those 2 were playing. The Vikings would definitely be in the Super Bowl.

It's similar to where Jeron Hall looked good for a couple of drives in his first start, so we knew he would perform well when recovered from injury, and given another chance to start.

Joining the like-minded crew, marty?

The point is the team we started with, the one coming out of the gate, was good enough to beat anyone in the NFC. Be careful marty with the Deebo and Williams excuse, one might consider it a hypothetical qualifier. The team we finished with wasn't close even close. That happens. Too bad for us -- you'd think, but some of you seem happy to enjoy the way it turned out; or is that just a realist thing?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 7:18:28 PM   
Ricky J


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell

not necessary.

my opinion is there whether you read it or not.

And so is mine.

Sorry about the sycophant comment, Tom.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 8:26:04 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell

not necessary.

my opinion is there whether you read it or not.

And so is mine.

Sorry about the sycophant comment, Tom.

I appreciate you trying to settle the tone down.

If anything though, I was envious … not upset. Nice one!

Two … There’s truth in it. I gravitate to warped senses of humor so obviously I’m going to respond to Bill’s posts LOL. Interesting balance of football saavy, philosophical skepticism, and verbal punji stake craftmanship.

I’ll try and regroup and hold my temper down … hard for an ol’ frustrado like me.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/31/2024 11:57:24 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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The bottom line is, I'm just tired.

In less than a few months there will be some clarity but it just seems so far away.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 1:10:11 AM   
Nate

 

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Always a pleasure reading the posts here, I can feel the passion from the Viking brethren.

A few thoughts:
I loved watching the lions choke. Many want new blood winning. If the lions win a bowl before we do I’m done. Same reason I didn’t want the aints to win, the bills to win, Cincinnati, the Texans , etc. it was hard enough to see the buccaneers win ffs. I’m a Viking from birth to death and screw all the superbowless teams hanging with us. I root for us to be the next off the winless list always, and none of the others. We’ve had a lot of teams that could’ve would’ve but never did. Let the other teams feel that despair too.

We need a. QB. We need OL and DL upgrades. We need secondary improvement Our coach needs balls and to shed his toxic positivity. Our GM needs to stop shorting stock and hedge fund managing and learn to build a freaking team. We need some ice cold in our participation trophy regime. Cut the high priced, low performers and draft some studs damnit!!!

The Lions have drafted well despite prideful emotion drives Campbell. The Pack has drafted well despite ego driven lafleur. The Vikings have drafted horrendously and also have a conservative empath not willing to make tough choices. The bears….well they may overtake us too if we continue on this path of incompetency.

I want to see a superbowl before I’m gone. We need a QB to get there. Mahommes and Brady have proven that. There are KC and NE teams that had no business even making the Super Bowl let alone win it, save for a great QB and coach. KFC is not it. I don’t want competitive failure. Reach for the stars and live with the risk. Get that QB or keep trying until we do. Otherwise we’re just a perennial competitive loser at best.

Cheers Viking brethren, may the odds be in our favor.
-Mockingjay.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 1:17:42 AM   
Nate

 

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As a side note, I may have had a couple to many tonight. Apologies for bad grammar and bad punctuation. I’m just a frustrated Vikings fan watching an unimpressive chiefs and 9ers team play for a title we should already have had. Boooooooo.

Maybe the twolves are our savior… 🙈
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 8:53:27 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

We would have hoped for a playoff run if Kirk had stayed healthy, we can hope, but really can't assume.

Correct, the only thing safe to assume is a loss

yes I'm going to chase you around the board.

I'm a bigger sycophant than you ever could have imagined.

.......

IMO Your negative anti-pessimistic campaign seems to assume that some posters are negative just for the sake of being negative.

No. That would be a troll ... which is different.

The only thing safe to assume depends on the situation when you get there. Which is fluid. Might indicate winning, might indicate losing.

Call it as you see it. Nothing wrong with that.

I hung up after the first sentence ... feel free to pm anytime you want -- I promise I won't run back to the board and tell


You are big on PMs.

How many have you sent recently?


None recently. But with Valentine's Day coming up there may be a flurry of them to potential sychphants. Sort of a recruiting pitch.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 8:55:51 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Beating SF at home in a regular season game where Deebo and Trent Williams were out, easily translates to the Vikings beating SF (at SF) in a playoff game where those 2 were playing. The Vikings would definitely be in the Super Bowl.

It's similar to where Jeron Hall looked good for a couple of drives in his first start, so we knew he would perform well when recovered from injury, and given another chance to start.

Joining the like-minded crew, marty?

The point is the team we started with, the one coming out of the gate, was good enough to beat anyone in the NFC. Be careful marty with the Deebo and Williams excuse, one might consider it a hypothetical qualifier. The team we finished with wasn't close even close. That happens. Too bad for us -- you'd think, but some of you seem happy to enjoy the way it turned out; or is that just a realist thing?


The one that started 1-4 "coming out of the gate"? Seriously?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 8:59:58 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Nate

Always a pleasure reading the posts here, I can feel the passion from the Viking brethren.

A few thoughts:
I loved watching the lions choke. Many want new blood winning. If the lions win a bowl before we do I’m done. Same reason I didn’t want the aints to win, the bills to win, Cincinnati, the Texans , etc. it was hard enough to see the buccaneers win ffs. I’m a Viking from birth to death and screw all the superbowless teams hanging with us. I root for us to be the next off the winless list always, and none of the others. We’ve had a lot of teams that could’ve would’ve but never did. Let the other teams feel that despair too.

We need a. QB. We need OL and DL upgrades. We need secondary improvement Our coach needs balls and to shed his toxic positivity. Our GM needs to stop shorting stock and hedge fund managing and learn to build a freaking team. We need some ice cold in our participation trophy regime. Cut the high priced, low performers and draft some studs damnit!!!

The Lions have drafted well despite prideful emotion drives Campbell. The Pack has drafted well despite ego driven lafleur. The Vikings have drafted horrendously and also have a conservative empath not willing to make tough choices. The bears….well they may overtake us too if we continue on this path of incompetency.

I want to see a superbowl before I’m gone. We need a QB to get there. Mahommes and Brady have proven that. There are KC and NE teams that had no business even making the Super Bowl let alone win it, save for a great QB and coach. KFC is not it. I don’t want competitive failure. Reach for the stars and live with the risk. Get that QB or keep trying until we do. Otherwise we’re just a perennial competitive loser at best.

Cheers Viking brethren, may the odds be in our favor.
-Mockingjay.


Great post!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 9:08:31 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

The bottom line is, I'm just tired.

In less than a few months there will be some clarity but it just seems so far away.



We'll know the status of the Human Myth in March, so it's getting close.
Set a low bar for free agency (sign a guard and call it a day).
Hold your breath during the draft as Collaborative Word Salad busts out his new sockless penny loafers.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/1/2024 9:14:49 AM   
Daniel Lee Young

 

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricky J

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

Beating SF at home in a regular season game where Deebo and Trent Williams were out, easily translates to the Vikings beating SF (at SF) in a playoff game where those 2 were playing. The Vikings would definitely be in the Super Bowl.

It's similar to where Jeron Hall looked good for a couple of drives in his first start, so we knew he would perform well when recovered from injury, and given another chance to start.

Joining the like-minded crew, marty?

The point is the team we started with, the one coming out of the gate, was good enough to beat anyone in the NFC. Be careful marty with the Deebo and Williams excuse, one might consider it a hypothetical qualifier. The team we finished with wasn't close even close. That happens. Too bad for us -- you'd think, but some of you seem happy to enjoy the way it turned out; or is that just a realist thing?


The one that started 1-4 "coming out of the gate"? Seriously?

selective memory.

All they remember is winning three games after a shit start, and beating an injured San Fran team, at home., way too early in The season, and overlooking the negative rate of a couple dozen in turnover margin…

“ that team was the best EVER! , because…KFC!!!”

Not playing our starters, AT ALL, In just 3 preseason games has proven, for almost 4 years straight.. it has been a stupid idea to prepare for the regular season..

Totally dysfunctional management, top to bottom.

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**** you all.
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