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ORIGINAL: Lars

My $0.02:

Turnovers are killing this team - especially when and where they are occurring. I think they would be 2-0 otherwise.

The run game by PHI last night was a good counter to the defense I think they designed to run: not gonna get beat over the top and we will contain Hurts. Did pretty well with that. If the front 7 played a bit better.....

Cousins played very well.

The IOL is weak. However, I expected much worse when starters started dropping like flies.

Harry is toast.

Hicks played a good game, as did Hunter.

Mattison is fine. He's not the problem, it's the OL getting pushed around.

Meh...going in I expected to lose by 10+. The fact that is was only 6 with all of the self-inflicted wounds is noteworthy.

SKOL

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

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ORIGINAL: Lars

My $0.02:

Turnovers are killing this team - especially when and where they are occurring. I think they would be 2-0 otherwise.

The run game by PHI last night was a good counter to the defense I think they designed to run: not gonna get beat over the top and we will contain Hurts. Did pretty well with that. If the front 7 played a bit better.....

Cousins played very well.

The IOL is weak. However, I expected much worse when starters started dropping like flies.

Harry is toast.

Hicks played a good game, as did Hunter.

Mattison is fine. He's not the problem, it's the OL getting pushed around.

Meh...going in I expected to lose by 10+. The fact that is was only 6 with all of the self-inflicted wounds is noteworthy.

SKOL

Agree with almost all except the Mattison is fine part. 1 fumble, 2nd taken away by a penalty. Lowest PFF score of anyone on offense. And I know it's PFF but honestly that matches the eye test.

Any RB on the waiver wire + Chandler would be the same IMO

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

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ORIGINAL: Lars

My $0.02:

Turnovers are killing this team - especially when and where they are occurring. I think they would be 2-0 otherwise.

The run game by PHI last night was a good counter to the defense I think they designed to run: not gonna get beat over the top and we will contain Hurts. Did pretty well with that. If the front 7 played a bit better.....

Cousins played very well.

The IOL is weak. However, I expected much worse when starters started dropping like flies.

Harry is toast.

Hicks played a good game, as did Hunter.

Mattison is fine. He's not the problem, it's the OL getting pushed around.

Meh...going in I expected to lose by 10+. The fact that is was only 6 with all of the self-inflicted wounds is noteworthy.

SKOL

Agree with almost all except the Mattison is fine part. 1 fumble, 2nd taken away by a penalty. Lowest PFF score of anyone on offense. And I know it's PFF but honestly that matches the eye test.

Any RB on the waiver wire + Chandler would be the same IMO

I agree with Lars on Mattison. There are absolutely no running lanes. Mattison is pretty much on his own getting through the line. The fumbles aren't characteristic of his career.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The Eagles are a great barometer to determine how good or bad a teams OL and DL are. That game should not have created any revelations, especially about the DL. The 16 play drive with 13 rushes I think set some obscure record(s). And the runs up the gut later were also embarrassing. A massacre.

It was a given the IOL would suck. And Mattison had nowhere to run. Cousins played a heck of a game.

Yup, I thought he was more aggressive than usual throwing into tight windows.

Threw a few balls that JJ had to pluck away from Slay. A shame Osborn couldn't do the same on the INT.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The Eagles are a great barometer to determine how good or bad a teams OL and DL are. That game should not have created any revelations, especially about the DL. The 16 play drive with 13 rushes I think set some obscure record(s). And the runs up the gut later were also embarrassing. A massacre.

It was a given the IOL would suck. And Mattison had nowhere to run. Cousins played a heck of a game.

Yup, I thought he was more aggressive than usual throwing into tight windows.

Threw a few balls that JJ had to pluck away from Slay. A shame Osborn couldn't do the same on the INT.

That's KJ's biggest problem. He's terrible at contested balls, and not great when he has to adjust to a throw to make a catch.

He's a #3 WR that will make some plays, but he's not really much more trustworthy than Reagor was.

Addison clearly has #2 ability, I hope his body holds up.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I don't think any running back can have success behind a worthless OLine, so still see no need to spend money on the position.

Cousins is about the last thing wrong with the team.

I wonder if Hunter has decent trade value at the deadline if the season is toast.


Never ever pay a RB, LB, or Safety big money. If they are that good...trade them and invest in OL DL and DB.

C and RG are a problem.

Granted you are not going to have stud everywhere, and you need a really good O line with an immobile QB

I still don't know how you look at defensive line of Bullard/Tonga, Phillips and Lowry, and think that is a legitimate defensive line

I mean it's laughably bad. Phillips is a rotational guy at best, those other 3.........couldn't even make Philly's roster.

My hope is down deep Kwesi damn new this team does not have the resources to complete with the elite teams in this league, and this year is all about providing fans some fun with the shiny offense, meanwhile setting up this team for 2024/2205 with cap space.

Got a lot of work to do though on the lines of this team, and Cousins likely will not be back.

6 years, 1 playoff win, you just gotta move on.

Don't get fooled by the "close" games. The league is set up for parity. There's really only about 6 to 7 teams that truly have a change to win this thing. The Vikings are in that massive group of mediorce teams

They were there last year, they just had a lot of breaks go their way.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

In the last 8 drafts, the team has drafted 2 defensive lineman in the first 4 rounds, and that's a 3rd and 4th rounder

That's rough. It no wonder we have the current dline we do.

All those wasted CB and LB picks vs building up your dline.

The game is won and lost in the trenches. Our trenches are weak as F.

Yes we are and we knew this going into the off season. Kwesi's answer was to run it back with the same weakling IOL. Lost our best IDLman in Tomlinson and replaced him with Dean frickin Lowry. Eagles didn't even seem to be running on all 8 cylinders yet rushed the ball 48 times for 269 yards.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

If Vikes lose to Chargers and go 0-3, it's time to bail. Trade Cousins to the Jets for a pick(s) and promising player on IOL or DL. Trade Hunter too. We might even get some cap off the books to roll into next year.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

If Mattison had even a portion of the wide-open running lanes that Swift had, he wouldn't be a topic today unless he was being praised.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Osborn looks like he has a lower center of gravity and runs like he is stomping the turf. Maybe sort of musclebound? Good observation on his not being adept to adjusting to the ball.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

In the last 8 drafts, the team has drafted 2 defensive lineman in the first 4 rounds, and that's a 3rd and 4th rounder

That's rough. It no wonder we have the current dline we do.

All those wasted CB and LB picks vs building up your dline.

The game is won and lost in the trenches. Our trenches are weak as F.

Yes we are and we knew this going into the off season. Kwesi's answer was to run it back with the same weakling IOL. Lost our best IDLman in Tomlinson and replaced him with Dean frickin Lowry. Eagles didn't even seem to be running on all 8 cylinders yet rushed the ball 48 times for 269 yards.

The Vikings defied the odds in a big way by winning 13 games while getting their asses kicked at the line of scrimmage game after game. They did nothing to improve the oline and made the dline even worse. I have a feeling the law of average is going to swing hard in the other direction.

Like already being 0-2 in one score games?

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The Eagles are a great barometer to determine how good or bad a teams OL and DL are. That game should not have created any revelations, especially about the DL. The 16 play drive with 13 rushes I think set some obscure record(s). And the runs up the gut later were also embarrassing. A massacre.

It was a given the IOL would suck. And Mattison had nowhere to run. Cousins played a heck of a game.

Yup, I thought he was more aggressive than usual throwing into tight windows.

Threw a few balls that JJ had to pluck away from Slay. A shame Osborn couldn't do the same on the INT.

That's KJ's biggest problem. He's terrible at contested balls, and not great when he has to adjust to a throw to make a catch.

He's a #3 WR that will make some plays, but he's not really much more trustworthy than Reagor was.

Addison clearly has #2 ability, I hope his body holds up.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I usually love the offseason, but with a lot of draft resources going for IMO a QB and about $40 million in unavailable cap I don't see how we even begin to address IOL, DL, and LB. Almost every position on those three units require a talent upgrade. And that's hoping the secondary pans out.

It will be year three of a five year rebuild.... if Kwesi hits on the acquisitions.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

The Eagles are a great barometer to determine how good or bad a teams OL and DL are. That game should not have created any revelations, especially about the DL. The 16 play drive with 13 rushes I think set some obscure record(s). And the runs up the gut later were also embarrassing. A massacre.

It was a given the IOL would suck. And Mattison had nowhere to run. Cousins played a heck of a game.

Yup, I thought he was more aggressive than usual throwing into tight windows.

Threw a few balls that JJ had to pluck away from Slay. A shame Osborn couldn't do the same on the INT.

That's KJ's biggest problem. He's terrible at contested balls, and not great when he has to adjust to a throw to make a catch.

He's a #3 WR that will make some plays, but he's not really much more trustworthy than Reagor was.

Addison clearly has #2 ability, I hope his body holds up.

While I agree Addison should be wr #2 Osborn is much better than Reagor. He can run routes correctly and is where he's suppose to be. He does have some flaws that he clearly needs to work on but i don't think it's fair to lump him in with Reagor.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

That onside kick still has me laughing. I can barely throw a bowling ball that flat.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

That onside kick still has me laughing. I can barely throw a bowling ball that flat.

I'm not sure I've ever seen one roll like that without bouncing. I was fired up for something big to happen to us for once

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

That onside kick still has me laughing. I can barely throw a bowling ball that flat.

I'm not sure I've ever seen one roll like that without bouncing. I was fired up for something big to happen to us for once