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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 8:46:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Speaking about Mauer the only vivid memories I have are when he started the season out most of the first month in one of the last seasons in the Metrodome and came out the next month just on fire. Compare that to the heroics of 87 and 91 WS....Hrbek grand slam and wrestling move on 1st, Puckett catch, Larkin tagging and scoring the winning run, Jack shutting them out for 10.

Maybe you were just too young then Matt.

Larkin didn't score the winning run.

Gladden did. Larkin drove him in.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 8:51:41 AM

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It's time for 80% of this board to eat crow. Every metric on earth says Joe Mauer is a HOFer. And now he is an elite FIRST BALLOT HOFer. One of the Top 10 catchers of all-time. And...get this...only the THIRD catcher ever to get in on first ballot (Bench and Rodriguez are the only others). A majority of you were wrong and I'm going to point it out right now. I give you an opportunity for a mea culpa, or just keep being belligerent and sour. Whatever suits you.

Nope. I don't agree on his worthiness for the hall. Just because a bunch of writers, who currently are completely overwhelmed by all the modern fancy shmansy Analytics voted for Mauer doesn't mean i have to agree or that I am wrong. I just have a differing opinion. Neither the fact that he's elected to the Hall, nor on the first ballot even vindicates your opinion or disavows mine. It's called an opinion for a reason.

I congratulate Joe Mauer for getting enshrined. At his peak I loved him, (except for his annoying habit of always watching the first two pitches go by). He made his mark and writers were impressed by him.

I just don't think the entirety of his career justified enshrinement. But good for him anyway.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 8:52:25 AM

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It's so weird. We have so little really good news in the Minnesota sports world, but on a day when we have some there are still people who are driven to be buzzkillers. Maybe it's part of their pathology of living through so many disappointments.

I had the opposite reaction. BECAUSE we have so many sports-related disappointments I cherished the fact that today brought really great news (oh, and the Wild won too). I know that some people just always look for a way to turn a happy moment into a sad one, but why do they have to share that pathology out loud (or in print)? I didn't pay any attention to the names of the posters who were the buzzkillers, because I actually didn't want to know who wrote them.

Or maybe it's a simple case that some of us simply don't believe his career merited the HOF and we get branded as buzz killers for having an opinion contrary to the herd.

exactly.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 8:54:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

It's so weird. We have so little really good news in the Minnesota sports world, but on a day when we have some there are still people who are driven to be buzzkillers. Maybe it's part of their pathology of living through so many disappointments.

I had the opposite reaction. BECAUSE we have so many sports-related disappointments I cherished the fact that today brought really great news (oh, and the Wild won too). I know that some people just always look for a way to turn a happy moment into a sad one, but why do they have to share that pathology out loud (or in print)? I didn't pay any attention to the names of the posters who were the buzzkillers, because I actually didn't want to know who wrote them.

Or maybe it's a simple case that some of us simply don't believe his career merited the HOF and we get branded as buzz killers for having an opinion contrary to the herd.

I propose we penalize Sweeney by taking away his Admin title for 3 days.

Why?

I know you're just being facetious but suggesting penalizing someone just because they have a different opinion than you is very Trumpish.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 8:56:47 AM

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Once in a lifetime. Literally, once in everyone's lifetime, going back to whenever the first HOF opened (1936?).

Joe Mauer of the Twins is the first player in MLB/NBA/NFL/NHL history to be drafted No. 1 overall by a team from his birth state/province, play 15+ seasons for that team and reach the Hall of Fame.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:02:48 AM

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I called it. As they were playing the open to PA's show, I said to myself....I bet he starts with the Wild today, the day after Joe Mauer makes the HOF. Interview with John Hynes. PA is an incompetent sports radio host.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:07:32 AM

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I remember when Mauer suited up and took the field one last time in the catcher's gear.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:08:43 AM

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I remember Mauer's final swing in the majors. An opposite-field double.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:10:15 AM

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I remember when Mauer blindly backhanded a wild pitch that caromed off the backstop without getting out of his crouch.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:14:04 AM

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The @Twins invited me to his number retirement, now he’s invited to join me on the @Otesaga
porch. Welcoming the the newest catcher in the @baseballhall, Joe Mauer. Congratulations!

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:29:48 AM

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I remember when Mauer suited up and took the field one last time in the catcher's gear.

How many years ago was that? I remember 1987 homer hankies and Kirby bat day in the early 80s.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:40:40 AM

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Joe came to the plate nearly 8,000 times in his career. He hit only 31 infield pop-ups. Always on top of the ball, driving it somewhere.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 9:42:35 AM

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Joe came to the plate nearly 8,000 times in his career. He hit only 31 infield pop-ups. Always on top of the ball, driving it somewhere.

Or grounding it somewhere.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 10:44:35 AM

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I remember when Mauer batted .365 with 28 HRs, won MVP and got a massive contract.

I remember him never batting higher than .327 or hitting more than 11 HRs in a season again.

What could have been...

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 10:49:14 AM

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I remember when Mauer suited up and took the field one last time in the catcher's gear.

That was an awesome moment.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 10:51:17 AM

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I remember when Mauer batted .365 with 28 HRs, won MVP and got a massive contract.

I remember him never batting higher than .327 or hitting more than 11 HRs in a season again.

What could have been...

Target field should have been designed to take advantage of Joe's strengths. How many warning track fly balls did he hit to LF at target field that would've cleared the wall in the dome?

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:02:42 AM

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Joey Votto may be signing with the Twins.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:04:11 AM

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On first base at Target Field during a game, I turn to Joe. 'Used to watch your batting vids every day after school' I tell him. Joe smiles and responds, 'That's incredibly generous of you, thank you!' At 34 years old, I was starstruck meeting him. Now, he's HOF! Congrats, Joe!

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:15:28 AM

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Joey Votto may be signing with the Twins.

I would rather have Miranda and Kirilloff platoon.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:20:28 AM

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https://twitter.com/LetsTalk_Twins/status/1749961580068872203

It's a lot dusty in here.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:40:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I remember when Mauer suited up and took the field one last time in the catcher's gear.

That was an awesome moment.

I was at that game

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:46:42 AM

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Joey Votto may be signing with the Twins.

I would rather have Miranda and Kirilloff platoon.

If they can stay healthy that is.

Votto would probably play more DH and offer another truly veteran presence on the bench for a relatively young lineup. Not sure about the wisdom of signing Votto, but if they do, it should be better than Joey Gallo.

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:49:53 AM

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https://twitter.com/LetsTalk_Twins/status/1749961580068872203

It's a lot dusty in here.

Just a great human being and a remarkable baseball player. Never a doubt in my mind that he was worthy to be in the HOF!!!

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 11:59:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Speaking about Mauer the only vivid memories I have are when he started the season out most of the first month in one of the last seasons in the Metrodome and came out the next month just on fire. Compare that to the heroics of 87 and 91 WS....Hrbek grand slam and wrestling move on 1st, Puckett catch, Larkin tagging and scoring the winning run, Jack shutting them out for 10.

Maybe you were just too young then Matt.

Larkin didn't score the winning run.

Gladden did. Larkin drove him in.

And Gladden set up the whole inning by hustling a bloop single into a double. That was some real, forgotten heroics. Larkin did what he needed to do so give him credit, but he just needed an outfield fly. It was all made possible by Gladden.

https://youtu.be/YoL2QZLis3o?si=tT-q7B4OSNgG8doU

< Message edited by Karl Juhnke -- 1/24/2024 12:03:34 PM >

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RE: Twins off-season - 1/24/2024 12:07:19 PM

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Joey Votto
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On first base at Target Field during a game, I turn to Joe. 'Used to watch your batting vids every day after school' I tell him. Joe smiles and responds, 'That's incredibly generous of you, thank you!' At 34 years old, I was starstruck meeting him. Now, he's HOF! Congrats, Joe!

Did Joe make batting videos as a kid?

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