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I think between Santana and Margot you had the money to grab a #2.

and any money they actually spend on DeSclafini.

Agreed.

Typical Twins. They would rather spend $5M a piece for 3 players to fill roles that could be filled in house, than spend $15-$20M on a player who would actually make an impact.

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Margot doesn't have any power. He has 52 HR in 788 games. For that matter, Taylor has 95 in 9+ seasons and he hit over 20% of those last year.

They both have more (proven) power than Martin though. Rodriguez is also getting closer; he supposedly has power.

What proven power? One guy averages 10 hr a year. The other averages 7. Margot has hit 4 hr in each of his last 2 seasons. They have combined to hit double digit hr in 7 of 17 seasons. Is that really a power differential worth worrying about?

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Margot doesn't have any power. He has 52 HR in 788 games. For that matter, Taylor has 95 in 9+ seasons and he hit over 20% of those last year.

They both have more (proven) power than Martin though. Rodriguez is also getting closer; he supposedly has power.

What proven power? One guy averages 10 hr a year. The other averages 7. Margot has hit 4 hr in each of his last 2 seasons. They have combined to hit double digit hr in 7 of 17 seasons. Is that really a power differential worth worrying about?

Does Martin have 1 HR in the Majors, ever?

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Margot doesn't have any power. He has 52 HR in 788 games. For that matter, Taylor has 95 in 9+ seasons and he hit over 20% of those last year.

They both have more (proven) power than Martin though. Rodriguez is also getting closer; he supposedly has power.

What proven power? One guy averages 10 hr a year. The other averages 7. Margot has hit 4 hr in each of his last 2 seasons. They have combined to hit double digit hr in 7 of 17 seasons. Is that really a power differential worth worrying about?

Does Martin have 1 HR in the Majors, ever?

He hasn't played a game in the majors yet.

But you see. He'd be paid at league minimum, would be a backup at multiple positions and at least once was a hot prospect. Defensively he's better than Margot and it wouldn't hurt to have a guy that slaps the ball around and gets on base a lot.

Sweens point was that we could have saved the money on Margot, and a couple other guys and got somebody like Montgomery for the rotation that would have made a much bigger impact. but Rocco don't like rookies much.

There is plenty of power in this lineup.

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Rocco covets the power. Still trying to reassemble the Bomba Squad. Good one. Martin at 25 is wasting away at AAA. Larnach will waste away again.
So stuck on metrics they don't even give guys opps to hit lefties for some guys. And as Sweens said, based on what? A small sampling size? Unbelievable.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

It is somewhat surprising but we were 3rd in MLB in HR last year but only 10th in runs....need a couple of Martin type with the Bomba.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

It is somewhat surprising but we were 3rd in MLB in HR last year but only 10th in runs....need a couple of Martin type with the Bomba.

it was a glaring flaw last year to me. The Twins struggled mightily to score runs without someone hitting a Home Run. That's just not sustainable. Sometimes you have to be able to scratch a run using small ball, Walk, steal a base move the runner over,. lay down a bunt, get a doink hit and score a run. Depending on the long ball will cost you games.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

It is somewhat surprising but we were 3rd in MLB in HR last year but only 10th in runs....need a couple of Martin type with the Bomba.

it was a glaring flaw last year to me. The Twins struggled mightily to score runs without someone hitting a Home Run. That's just not sustainable. Sometimes you have to be able to scratch a run using small ball, Walk, steal a base move the runner over,. lay down a bunt, get a doink hit and score a run. Depending on the long ball will cost you games.

I think he did bunt in extra innings a couple times.

Baby steps.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

It is somewhat surprising but we were 3rd in MLB in HR last year but only 10th in runs....need a couple of Martin type with the Bomba.

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I don't know if Rocco had realized the Bomba Squad totals were a by product of the seamless baseball in 2019.

It is somewhat surprising but we were 3rd in MLB in HR last year but only 10th in runs....need a couple of Martin type with the Bomba.

it was a glaring flaw last year to me. The Twins struggled mightily to score runs without someone hitting a Home Run. That's just not sustainable. Sometimes you have to be able to scratch a run using small ball, Walk, steal a base move the runner over,. lay down a bunt, get a doink hit and score a run. Depending on the long ball will cost you games.

I think he did bunt in extra innings a couple times.

Baby steps.

But maybe not enough in the bottom half of the inning while tied

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We took in the game yesterday with our son who was visiting. It was a lot of fun. Good to see the young players continue to hit. First Julien with the opposite field dinger and then Lewis with the slam. Lewis' was an absolute bomb. It cleared all the signage in LF, left the stadium and kept on going.

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I think between Santana and Margot you had the money to grab a #2.

and any money they actually spend on DeSclafini.

Agreed.

Typical Twins. They would rather spend $5M a piece for 3 players to fill roles that could be filled in house, than spend $15-$20M on a player who would actually make an impact.

THIS

It is so difficult to understand.

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I think between Santana and Margot you had the money to grab a #2.

and any money they actually spend on DeSclafini.

Agreed.

Typical Twins. They would rather spend $5M a piece for 3 players to fill roles that could be filled in house, than spend $15-$20M on a player who would actually make an impact.

THIS

It is so difficult to understand.

It's actually a good strategy. If you get the more expensive guy and he gets hurt or underperforms, you're screwed. But if you get 3 guys for the same amount of money, you keep playing them if they perform. Otherwise you replace them. If two of the three work out, you're in a better place than you would have been if you'd spent all that money on just one player.

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I think between Santana and Margot you had the money to grab a #2.

and any money they actually spend on DeSclafini.

Agreed.

Typical Twins. They would rather spend $5M a piece for 3 players to fill roles that could be filled in house, than spend $15-$20M on a player who would actually make an impact.

THIS

It is so difficult to understand.

It's actually a good strategy. If you get the more expensive guy and he gets hurt or underperforms, you're screwed. But if you get 3 guys for the same amount of money, you keep playing them if they perform. Otherwise you replace them. If two of the three work out, you're in a better place than you would have been if you'd spent all that money on just one player.

Yes, why would we want legit #2 starter who can win playoff games. when we can have a 38 year old 1B who has one OPS over .700 since 2019, a back up OF with a career OPS of .694 and an injury prone rag arm #5 starter, who decent year once in 2021.