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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:15:58 PM

Bill Johanesen

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Let these other loser teams fend for the scraps!!

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:16:23 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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Strange draft, not hoping for any particular player. Do hope to preserve draft capital. Someone needs to tell Kwesi to relax in words he understands, like letting the draft evolve organically.

There are 3-5 CBs, get one at #23.

Do you have a preference at QB? What are you thinking, Bill?

No, but am concerned about what these QBs are worth.

Maye. I think he's pretty unflappable, one of the things that go into having 'It'. 11, 23, and change.
McCarthy. He's done some stuff already, just not much of it. No glaring issues. 11 and change.
Penix. Great arm. Concerns about pocket presence and injuries. 23 and change.
Nix. Gimmicky. An SEC failure. Stats-smats. Pass for Rattler except we don't have a second rounder.

We need draft picks. No 2nd last year. No 2nd and 3rd this year. No 2nd next year. In a few years that is going to show as a huge void unless they draft great. Free agency just isn't going to cover the omissions and lapses. The money didn't go far this year. A couple of guys who haven't played full seasons, some injured guys, and an ok RB.

I'm kind of the opposite. Kwesi keeps trading down for more picks, yet diminishing returns. 10 bad picks isn't preferable to 6 bad picks...

I'm ready to see him consolidate picks to trade up. Maybe he can get an impact player that way.

Thank you Kwesi!!!

He must be reading you.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:16:37 PM

David Levine

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Someone needs to check on Brad.

We drafted McCarthy and a DE. He might stroke out.

Seems like Turner is a perfect fit for our scheme.

He's potentially a Danielle Hunter that can also drop into coverage.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:18:43 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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Someone needs to check on Brad.

We drafted McCarthy and a DE. He might stroke out.

Seems like Turner is a perfect fit for our scheme.

He's potentially a Danielle Hunter that can also drop into coverage.

Sideline to sideline he looks great with great long arms. Good tackler. Never thought we'd have a shot at him even at 11.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:19:23 PM

Dave Odle

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Guys, we just got the best defensive player in the draft! Kwesi redeemed and then some.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:20:33 PM

Dave Odle

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And man did those QB's go fast.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:21:09 PM

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Is Dallas Turner similar to Micah Parsons, or is there another player you consider to be similar to him ?

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:21:15 PM

Phil Riewer

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The defense will be so much faster now.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:21:22 PM

Chris Olson

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thrilled with what we got...I'm all for getting "Dudes over Depth"

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:22:09 PM

Phil Riewer

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Why sign Kirk if you are drafting Penix. So Atlanta.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:22:10 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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thrilled with what we got...I'm all for getting "Dudes over Depth"

Same Chris!!

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:23:31 PM

Dave Odle

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thrilled with what we got...I'm all for getting "Dudes over Depth"

Same Chris!!

Man, absolutely! Instead of 5 or 6 mid round picks, we took studs.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:23:35 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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Why sign Kirk if you are drafting Penix. So Atlanta.

Buyers remorse?

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:23:54 PM

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Two 2nds a third, a fourth, and a fifth for Turner. Costly but we are suppose to get comp picks to recoup at least a third as a comp pick.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:25:37 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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thrilled with what we got...I'm all for getting "Dudes over Depth"

Same Chris!!

Man, absolutely! Instead of 5 or 6 mid round picks, we took studs.

And of the 2nd 3 qbs available I'm glad we went JJ. Not sure about him still but Penix will probably be hurt if he plays a substantial amount and I absolutely wasn't sold at all on Nix.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:26:39 PM

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Guys, we just got the best defensive player in the draft! Kwesi redeemed and then some.

Absolutely. I now believe Kwesi is the best drafter in the world.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:27:28 PM

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Is Dallas Turner similar to Micah Parsons, or is there another player you consider to be similar to him ?

I know nothing about Micah Parsons other than he's very good, but that's the name I've heard him compared to.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:27:53 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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Two 2nds a third, a fourth, and a fifth for Turner. Costly but we are suppose to get comp picks to recoup at least a third as a comp pick.

I didn't see anything about giving up 2 2nd rounders.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:28:25 PM

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From 2 Minute Tommy:
Even though @JimMcMahon only wore my number for one year, I just talked to him and we are more than happy to pass #9 onto @jjmccarthy09.
The future looks bright Viking fans

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:28:41 PM

Bill Johanesen

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Geez, the guy is all over the place!

https://youtu.be/4u-j9Y6kKb8

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:28:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

thrilled with what we got...I'm all for getting "Dudes over Depth"

Same Chris!!

Man, absolutely! Instead of 5 or 6 mid round picks, we took studs.

And of the 2nd 3 qbs available I'm glad we went JJ. Not sure about him still but Penix will probably be hurt if he plays a substantial amount and I absolutely wasn't sold at all on Nix.

Nix will most likely be Rookie of the Year.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:28:51 PM

Phil Riewer

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Two 2nds a third, a fourth, and a fifth for Turner. Costly but we are suppose to get comp picks to recoup at least a third as a comp pick.

I didn't see anything about giving up 2 2nd rounders.

We gave up 2 nds to Houston for the 23rd pick. Equivalent is a high 1st round pick.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:29:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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Two 2nds a third, a fourth, and a fifth for Turner. Costly but we are suppose to get comp picks to recoup at least a third as a comp pick.

I didn't see anything about giving up 2 2nd rounders.

Phil might be counting our pick 23 as 2 second rounders.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:29:55 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Two 2nds a third, a fourth, and a fifth for Turner. Costly but we are suppose to get comp picks to recoup at least a third as a comp pick.

I didn't see anything about giving up 2 2nd rounders.

We gave up 2 nds to Houston for the 23rd pick.

Gotcha. I thought you meant for this trade. Thanks.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/25/2024 9:30:34 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Dave Odle

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

thrilled with what we got...I'm all for getting "Dudes over Depth"

Same Chris!!

Man, absolutely! Instead of 5 or 6 mid round picks, we took studs.

And of the 2nd 3 qbs available I'm glad we went JJ. Not sure about him still but Penix will probably be hurt if he plays a substantial amount and I absolutely wasn't sold at all on Nix.

Nix will most likely be Rookie of the Year.