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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

In short, he is a great cheap rental.


Yeap. If any Viking fan would have been told, before the season, that we'd be going in to this week at 6-2 (and 2 very winnable games coming up) with Sam Darnold at QB they would be thrilled. If not, they would be an idiot with over the top expectations.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser
In short, he is a great cheap rental.
Yeap. If any Viking fan would have been told, before the season, that we'd be going in to this week at 6-2 (and 2 very winnable games coming up) with Sam Darnold at QB they would be thrilled. If not, they would be an idiot with over the top expectations.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I woke up and tried to recap without the emotions.

1. Reichard's situation is really worrisome. That dude has been lights out. Hoping for the best and if he was hurt, why is he bombing KO's still? Can't Wright do that for now? It's not like we are 'placing' them. Just bombing them out of the EZ.

2. The IOL is still a huge problem even if they don't ALWAYS have bad games. If we make the playoffs they will, most certainly, be a reason we don't advance.

3. The D was outstanding overall but the middle of the field continues to be wide open.

4. Even when they work (which isn't often) the screens are just a train wreck.

5. An occasional gadget play is ok but with JJ, TJ, JA and AJ ect.....we dont need to be running them that often. They mostly get blown up anyway.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

In short, he is a great cheap rental.


Yeap. If any Viking fan would have been told, before the season, that we'd be going in to this week at 6-2 (and 2 very winnable games coming up) with Sam Darnold at QB they would be thrilled. If not, they would be an idiot with over the top expectations.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

In short, he is a great cheap rental.


Yeap. If any Viking fan would have been told, before the season, that we'd be going in to this week at 6-2 (and 2 very winnable games coming up) with Sam Darnold at QB they would be thrilled. If not, they would be an idiot with over the top expectations.

I agree 100% with the opinion that Darnold is a great, cheap rental. This is what a great, cheap rental gets you through eight games:

155 completions on 223 attempts (69.5%) for 1900 yards. 8.5 yards per attempt. 17 TDs, 7 INTs. Rating - 107.8. QBR - 58.3

The same eight games from 2023 with the Kirko:

216 completions on 311 attempts (69.5%) for 2331 yards. 7.5 yards per attempt. 18 TDs, 5 INTs. Rating - 103.8. QBR - 61.0

Either Darnold is the bargain of all bargains or Kirko was overpayed by about 300%. Some fans were claiming MVP status for Kirko in 2023.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

In short, he is a great cheap rental.


Yeap. If any Viking fan would have been told, before the season, that we'd be going in to this week at 6-2 (and 2 very winnable games coming up) with Sam Darnold at QB they would be thrilled. If not, they would be an idiot with over the top expectations.

I agree 100% with the opinion that Darnold is a great, cheap rental. This is what a great, cheap rental gets you through eight games:

155 completions on 223 attempts (69.5%) for 1900 yards. 8.5 yards per attempt. 17 TDs, 7 INTs. Rating - 107.8. QBR - 58.3

The same eight games from 2023 with the Kirko:

216 completions on 311 attempts (69.5%) for 2331 yards. 7.5 yards per attempt. 18 TDs, 5 INTs. Rating - 103.8. QBR - 61.0

Either Darnold is the bargain of all bargains or Kirko was overpayed by about 300%. Some fans were claiming MVP status for Kirko in 2023.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

RE: Darnold. Just an opinion.


I was super high on his signing because I've always thought he's never had a real chance but was super talented coming out of USC. That said, the same 'risks' he had coming out are starting to become all too often.

1. He has enough arm talent to be a starting NLF QB.
2. His mobility in the pocket isn't upper echelon but..... He's not a 'running qb" but he can hurt you with his mobility.
3. He's a big/tough QB. He's not fragile at all.
4. He's bound to give you that "WTF are you doing" moment every game.

Point 4 for me is where KOC needs to reel him in. The fumble was a ridiculous call by the officials. Not on Darnold. The 2 INT's though

From what I remember about his time at USC was Caleb Williams lite. He can wow you but just does some really dumb ass shit that needs to get coached out of him.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

RE: Darnold. Just an opinion.


I was super high on his signing because I've always thought he's never had a real chance but was super talented coming out of USC. That said, the same 'risks' he had coming out are starting to become all too often.

1. He has enough arm talent to be a starting NLF QB.
2. His mobility in the pocket isn't upper echelon but..... He's not a 'running qb" but he can hurt you with his mobility.
3. He's a big/tough QB. He's not fragile at all.
4. He's bound to give you that "WTF are you doing" moment every game.

Point 4 for me is where KOC needs to reel him in. The fumble was a ridiculous call by the officials. Not on Darnold. The 2 INT's though

From what I remember about his time at USC was Caleb Williams lite. He can wow you but just does some really dumb ass shit that needs to get coached out of him.

On both ints Addy was wide open. I mean wide open.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

RE: Darnold. Just an opinion.


I was super high on his signing because I've always thought he's never had a real chance but was super talented coming out of USC. That said, the same 'risks' he had coming out are starting to become all too often.

1. He has enough arm talent to be a starting NLF QB.
2. His mobility in the pocket isn't upper echelon but..... He's not a 'running qb" but he can hurt you with his mobility.
3. He's a big/tough QB. He's not fragile at all.
4. He's bound to give you that "WTF are you doing" moment every game.

Point 4 for me is where KOC needs to reel him in. The fumble was a ridiculous call by the officials. Not on Darnold. The 2 INT's though

From what I remember about his time at USC was Caleb Williams lite. He can wow you but just does some really dumb ass shit that needs to get coached out of him.

On both ints Addy was wide open. I mean wide open.

Seems every game he is trying to force the ball in to double coverage when Addy is wide open. He just doesn't have good vision.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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Vikings ARE active in trade talks today. One that is heating-up is a return of DT Dalvin Tomlinson. The biggest weak spots are DB and DT. Yes, we might need RB or OLine help, but don't think those are largely in play

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Pass on DT and keep the draft stock. It's better depth but does he upgrade us over Phillips?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

VikeFans
@VikeFans
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Perhaps it amounts to nothing, but a Viking inquiry has been made to the Jets on Sauce Gardiner. One of our sources shared with us (no, we don't share source names, so believe what you like), & we do not know how much traction it would get. We don't think the Jets will trade him

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

VikeFans
@VikeFans
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8m
Perhaps it amounts to nothing, but a Viking inquiry has been made to the Jets on Sauce Gardiner. One of our sources shared with us (no, we don't share source names, so believe what you like), & we do not know how much traction it would get. We don't think the Jets will trade him

kwesi is just trying to make some noise; he's going for something really big and is looking to bring the price down....

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

VikeFans
@VikeFans
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Hard to believe, but Pro Football Focus (PFF) graded Ed Ingram as one of the higher rated pass blockers on Sunday night, and Bradbury as one of the highest run blockers. However, the grades for pass blocking were terrible for Bradbury and Brandel, who we abused by the Colts.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

RE: Darnold. Just an opinion.


I was super high on his signing because I've always thought he's never had a real chance but was super talented coming out of USC. That said, the same 'risks' he had coming out are starting to become all too often.

1. He has enough arm talent to be a starting NLF QB.
2. His mobility in the pocket isn't upper echelon but..... He's not a 'running qb" but he can hurt you with his mobility.
3. He's a big/tough QB. He's not fragile at all.
4. He's bound to give you that "WTF are you doing" moment every game.

Point 4 for me is where KOC needs to reel him in. The fumble was a ridiculous call by the officials. Not on Darnold. The 2 INT's though

From what I remember about his time at USC was Caleb Williams lite. He can wow you but just does some really dumb ass shit that needs to get coached out of him.

On both ints Addy was wide open. I mean wide open.

Seems every game he is trying to force the ball in to double coverage when Addy is wide open. He just doesn't have good vision.

Or he is so determined to force the ball to his primary, he doesn't bother looking off of them.