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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

To all those that feel the Vikings exceeded expectations so it’s all gravy anyway here’s an analogy for you.


You meet the prettiest girl. She’s a knockout both in looks and personality. You hit it off so well you end up having the most mind blowing sex. You are love. But instead of fostering this amazing new relationship you blow it. For whatever reason. When she dumps you do you just quietly fold your hands together and smile, thinking ah she was too good for me anyway?

We had it all right in front of us and we blew it. There’s no silver lining in that. I’m pretty sure most of us in our hearts know we’ll be lucky not to be one and done.

I like the analogy but I'd argue we were the guy that thought the pretty and amazing girl liked him when she just said hi.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

To all those that feel the Vikings exceeded expectations so it’s all gravy anyway here’s an analogy for you.


You meet the prettiest girl. She’s a knockout both in looks and personality. You hit it off so well you end up having the most mind blowing sex. You are love. But instead of fostering this amazing new relationship you blow it. For whatever reason. When she dumps you do you just quietly fold your hands together and smile, thinking ah she was too good for me anyway?

We had it all right in front of us and we blew it. There’s no silver lining in that. I’m pretty sure most of us in our hearts know we’ll be lucky not to be one and done.

I like the analogy but I'd argue we were the guy that thought the pretty and amazing girl liked him when she just said hi.

Either way we’re losers.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

LOL. Now, the right side of my brain wants to chime in.


IF... SD isn't so God awful in the first half, and we get a few TD's when we should have, that's a totally different game.

You guys make it sound like scoring a TD was an easy task. The fourth down pass missed to Jefferson in the corner of the end zone was a rushed throw because he had someone (safety, I think) bearing down on him. The one in the back of the end zone he had to throw against his body running left, with guys bearing down on him. Neither of those are easy throws.

The two bad throws were the two misses to Hockenson, one on third-and-18 and the other on an out pattern on third and long. Those two throws were chains movers and would have kept the Detroit defense on the field.

One thing Detroit did was take away running lanes for Darnold. He's been very good at escaping rushes and picking up first downs with his legs. Those lanes were not there on Sunday. They were disciplined and kept him contained, forcing our woeful offensive line to try and protect. Given our offensive coordinator never made any adjustments and continued to run 25-30-yard patterns, we had little success.

It was a terrible job from O'Connell. Darnold was not put in a position to succeed. The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the run. O'Connell would get across midfield and go away from it. Winning in the playoffs (or big games) has to be ugly at times. Not everything is a beauty contest.

I remember watching Belichick and the Patriots run the ball close to 15 straight times in one game because the defense wasn't stopping it. That was with Tom Brady and Randy Moss on the field. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you and be happy with it. You think the Chiefs were disappointed in winning with Isaiah Pacheco last season?

If your offensive line can't protect and you are averaging 4-5 yards-per-carry, why would you put your offense in a position to get your quarterback sacked and put yourself in third and long every possession? And then, even worse, continue to do it over and over with no recognition that it isn't working.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

LOL. Now, the right side of my brain wants to chime in.


IF... SD isn't so God awful in the first half, and we get a few TD's when we should have, that's a totally different game.

You guys make it sound like scoring a TD was an easy task. The fourth down pass missed to Jefferson in the corner of the end zone was a rushed throw because he had someone (safety, I think) bearing down on him. The one in the back of the end zone he had to throw against his body running left, with guys bearing down on him. Neither of those are easy throws.

The two bad throws were the two misses to Hockenson, one on third-and-18 and the other on an out pattern on third and long. Those two throws were chains movers and would have kept the Detroit defense on the field.

One thing Detroit did was take away running lanes for Darnold. He's been very good at escaping rushes and picking up first downs with his legs. Those lanes were not there on Sunday. They were disciplined and kept him contained, forcing our woeful offensive line to try and protect. Given our offensive coordinator never made any adjustments and continued to run 25-30-yard patterns, we had little success.

It was a terrible job from O'Connell. Darnold was not put in a position to succeed. The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the run. O'Connell would get across midfield and go away from it. Winning in the playoffs (or big games) has to be ugly at times. Not everything is a beauty contest.

I remember watching Belichick and the Patriots run the ball close to 15 straight times in one game because the defense wasn't stopping it. That was with Tom Brady and Randy Moss on the field. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you and be happy with it. You think the Chiefs were disappointed in winning with Isaiah Pacheco last season?

If your offensive line can't protect and you are averaging 4-5 yards-per-carry, why would you put your offense in a position to get your quarterback sacked and put yourself in third and long every possession? And then, even worse, continue to do it over and over with no recognition that it isn't working.

You’re such a Darnold apologist.

Everybody and their mother agrees KOC called a poor game and refused to adapt to the def scheme. We all agree SD had constant people in his face, many running free.

We should all agree that they left no room for Sam to to escape forward, which he’s good at when its there. However, his molasses spin move out the back window to evade rushers, turning his back and then running in a gigantic crop circle … those things are visible from outer space. After the third or fourth time, I would have had our OL trip him before he started, take the initial sack with minimal loss of yards and less embarrassment.

All that and more … but to deny he was completely flustered, was holding the ball too long / over-throwing and-or-had bad ball placement / was not using his underneath options … is just that, denial. No play, no matter how slow developing has everybody running a slow developing route. No pass play has only one or two options.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

LOL. Now, the right side of my brain wants to chime in.


IF... SD isn't so God awful in the first half, and we get a few TD's when we should have, that's a totally different game.

You guys make it sound like scoring a TD was an easy task. The fourth down pass missed to Jefferson in the corner of the end zone was a rushed throw because he had someone (safety, I think) bearing down on him. It was a timing pattern that was all messed up because Jefferson stumbled when making his break to the corner. The one in the back of the end zone he had to throw against his body running left, with guys bearing down on him. Neither of those are easy throws or simple plays. In fact, I hated the call in the corner of the end zone. The never even attempted to get Darnold out in space with a bootleg where he can be dangerous with his legs.

The two bad throws were the two misses to Hockenson, one on third-and-18 and the other on an out pattern on third and long. Those two throws were chains movers and would have kept the Detroit defense on the field. The second was a timing play and the timing was off (again, because he was being rushed).

One thing Detroit did well was take away running lanes for Darnold. He's been very good at escaping rushes and picking up first downs with his legs. Those lanes were not there on Sunday. They were disciplined and kept him contained, forcing our woeful offensive line to try and protect. Given our offensive coordinator never made any adjustments and continued to run 25-30-yard patterns, we had little success.

It was a terrible job from O'Connell. Darnold was not put in a position to succeed. The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the run. O'Connell would get across midfield and go away from it. Winning in the playoffs (or big games) has to be ugly at times. Not everything is a beauty contest.

I remember watching Belichick and the Patriots run the ball close to 15 straight times in one game because the defense wasn't stopping it. That was with Tom Brady and Randy Moss on the field. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you and be happy with it. You think the Chiefs were disappointed in winning with Isaiah Pacheco last season? The goal should be the silver trophy, not vanity.

If your offensive line can't protect and you are averaging 4-5 yards-per-carry, why would you put your offense in a position to get your quarterback sacked and put yourself in third and long every possession? And then, even worse, continue to do it over and over with no recognition that it isn't working.

O'Connell showed his youth on Sunday. Hopefully he grows up before Monday, because if not, McVay will make him and the Vikings look bad for a second straight game. They saw the script. And please, somebody cover Puka Nacua.

One can understand being surprised by a series or two by what Detroit did. To see them not adjust to it for the entirety of the game is seriously concerning. How you have no lightning calls in place for when a team plays cover 0 is beyond my comprehension at any level from high school up. It was frustrating watching the replays.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I want to believe that KOC will learn from what he saw from both the Rams and Lions in previous games..........but no matter what you need good if not great great QB play to have a chance. KOC was outcoached but Sam was so off early it was the #1 problem.

Players win or lose games. Van Ginkel pick 6 instead of the drop would have changed the game as an example.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

LOL. Now, the right side of my brain wants to chime in.


IF... SD isn't so God awful in the first half, and we get a few TD's when we should have, that's a totally different game.

You guys make it sound like scoring a TD was an easy task. The fourth down pass missed to Jefferson in the corner of the end zone was a rushed throw because he had someone (safety, I think) bearing down on him. It was a timing pattern that was all messed up because Jefferson stumbled when making his break to the corner. The one in the back of the end zone he had to throw against his body running left, with guys bearing down on him. Neither of those are easy throws or simple plays. In fact, I hated the call in the corner of the end zone. The never even attempted to get Darnold out in space with a bootleg where he can be dangerous with his legs.

The two bad throws were the two misses to Hockenson, one on third-and-18 and the other on an out pattern on third and long. Those two throws were chains movers and would have kept the Detroit defense on the field. The second was a timing play and the timing was off (again, because he was being rushed).

One thing Detroit did well was take away running lanes for Darnold. He's been very good at escaping rushes and picking up first downs with his legs. Those lanes were not there on Sunday. They were disciplined and kept him contained, forcing our woeful offensive line to try and protect. Given our offensive coordinator never made any adjustments and continued to run 25-30-yard patterns, we had little success.

It was a terrible job from O'Connell. Darnold was not put in a position to succeed. The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the run. O'Connell would get across midfield and go away from it. Winning in the playoffs (or big games) has to be ugly at times. Not everything is a beauty contest.

I remember watching Belichick and the Patriots run the ball close to 15 straight times in one game because the defense wasn't stopping it. That was with Tom Brady and Randy Moss on the field. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you and be happy with it. You think the Chiefs were disappointed in winning with Isaiah Pacheco last season? The goal should be the silver trophy, not vanity.

If your offensive line can't protect and you are averaging 4-5 yards-per-carry, why would you put your offense in a position to get your quarterback sacked and put yourself in third and long every possession? And then, even worse, continue to do it over and over with no recognition that it isn't working.

O'Connell showed his youth on Sunday. Hopefully he grows up before Monday, because if not, McVay will make him and the Vikings look bad for a second straight game. They saw the script. And please, somebody cover Puka Nacua.

One can understand being surprised by a series or two by what Detroit did. To see them not adjust to it for the entirety of the game is seriously concerning. How you have no lightning calls in place for when a team plays cover 0 is beyond my comprehension at any level from high school up. It was frustrating watching the replays.

And then to have your starters in the game with five minutes remaining in a no-win situation was the topping on the cake. O'Connell was sleeping at the wheel the entire night.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I want to believe that KOC will learn from what he saw from both the Rams and Lions in previous games..........but no matter what you need good if not great great QB play to have a chance. KOC was outcoached but Sam was so off early it was the #1 problem.

Players win or lose games. Van Ginkel pick 6 instead of the drop would have changed the game as an example.

Beating great teams takes a lot of things going right. We had almost nothing go right.

People are complaining about the Darnold sack that set us way back. Go back and watch at the play. Somebody grabbed his facemask and it should have been a 15-yard penalty going the other way. I'm not a guy that complains about getting screwed by officials, but they clearly missed that one just like the one they missed earlier in the season in the end zone.

The defense played well for a half. That was the lone positive I took from the game. Despite complete incompetence, we were still in the game five minutes into the second half. It was a winnable game, and largely correctable.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

LOL. Now, the right side of my brain wants to chime in.


IF... SD isn't so God awful in the first half, and we get a few TD's when we should have, that's a totally different game.

You guys make it sound like scoring a TD was an easy task. The fourth down pass missed to Jefferson in the corner of the end zone was a rushed throw because he had someone (safety, I think) bearing down on him. It was a timing pattern that was all messed up because Jefferson stumbled when making his break to the corner. The one in the back of the end zone he had to throw against his body running left, with guys bearing down on him. Neither of those are easy throws or simple plays. In fact, I hated the call in the corner of the end zone. The never even attempted to get Darnold out in space with a bootleg where he can be dangerous with his legs.

The two bad throws were the two misses to Hockenson, one on third-and-18 and the other on an out pattern on third and long. Those two throws were chains movers and would have kept the Detroit defense on the field. The second was a timing play and the timing was off (again, because he was being rushed).

One thing Detroit did well was take away running lanes for Darnold. He's been very good at escaping rushes and picking up first downs with his legs. Those lanes were not there on Sunday. They were disciplined and kept him contained, forcing our woeful offensive line to try and protect. Given our offensive coordinator never made any adjustments and continued to run 25-30-yard patterns, we had little success.

It was a terrible job from O'Connell. Darnold was not put in a position to succeed. The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the run. O'Connell would get across midfield and go away from it. Winning in the playoffs (or big games) has to be ugly at times. Not everything is a beauty contest.

I remember watching Belichick and the Patriots run the ball close to 15 straight times in one game because the defense wasn't stopping it. That was with Tom Brady and Randy Moss on the field. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you and be happy with it. You think the Chiefs were disappointed in winning with Isaiah Pacheco last season? The goal should be the silver trophy, not vanity.

If your offensive line can't protect and you are averaging 4-5 yards-per-carry, why would you put your offense in a position to get your quarterback sacked and put yourself in third and long every possession? And then, even worse, continue to do it over and over with no recognition that it isn't working.

O'Connell showed his youth on Sunday. Hopefully he grows up before Monday, because if not, McVay will make him and the Vikings look bad for a second straight game. They saw the script. And please, somebody cover Puka Nacua.

One can understand being surprised by a series or two by what Detroit did. To see them not adjust to it for the entirety of the game is seriously concerning. How you have no lightning calls in place for when a team plays cover 0 is beyond my comprehension at any level from high school up. It was frustrating watching the replays.

And then to have your starters in the game with five minutes remaining in a no-win situation was the topping on the cake. O'Connell was sleeping at the wheel the entire night.

No he wasn't....he schemed JJ and Addison open early. Look at the targets to TJ, JJ, and Addison......

He needed 100+ rating Sam to win the game with Aaron Jones banged up.....he completed 11/29 passes going into the 4th....he didn't have it.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

LOL. Now, the right side of my brain wants to chime in.


IF... SD isn't so God awful in the first half, and we get a few TD's when we should have, that's a totally different game.

You guys make it sound like scoring a TD was an easy task. The fourth down pass missed to Jefferson in the corner of the end zone was a rushed throw because he had someone (safety, I think) bearing down on him. It was a timing pattern that was all messed up because Jefferson stumbled when making his break to the corner. The one in the back of the end zone he had to throw against his body running left, with guys bearing down on him. Neither of those are easy throws or simple plays. In fact, I hated the call in the corner of the end zone. The never even attempted to get Darnold out in space with a bootleg where he can be dangerous with his legs.

The two bad throws were the two misses to Hockenson, one on third-and-18 and the other on an out pattern on third and long. Those two throws were chains movers and would have kept the Detroit defense on the field. The second was a timing play and the timing was off (again, because he was being rushed).

One thing Detroit did well was take away running lanes for Darnold. He's been very good at escaping rushes and picking up first downs with his legs. Those lanes were not there on Sunday. They were disciplined and kept him contained, forcing our woeful offensive line to try and protect. Given our offensive coordinator never made any adjustments and continued to run 25-30-yard patterns, we had little success.

It was a terrible job from O'Connell. Darnold was not put in a position to succeed. The Vikings were gashing the Lions with the run. O'Connell would get across midfield and go away from it. Winning in the playoffs (or big games) has to be ugly at times. Not everything is a beauty contest.

I remember watching Belichick and the Patriots run the ball close to 15 straight times in one game because the defense wasn't stopping it. That was with Tom Brady and Randy Moss on the field. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you and be happy with it. You think the Chiefs were disappointed in winning with Isaiah Pacheco last season? The goal should be the silver trophy, not vanity.

If your offensive line can't protect and you are averaging 4-5 yards-per-carry, why would you put your offense in a position to get your quarterback sacked and put yourself in third and long every possession? And then, even worse, continue to do it over and over with no recognition that it isn't working.

O'Connell showed his youth on Sunday. Hopefully he grows up before Monday, because if not, McVay will make him and the Vikings look bad for a second straight game. They saw the script. And please, somebody cover Puka Nacua.

One can understand being surprised by a series or two by what Detroit did. To see them not adjust to it for the entirety of the game is seriously concerning. How you have no lightning calls in place for when a team plays cover 0 is beyond my comprehension at any level from high school up. It was frustrating watching the replays.

And then to have your starters in the game with five minutes remaining in a no-win situation was the topping on the cake. O'Connell was sleeping at the wheel the entire night.

No he wasn't....he schemed JJ and Addison open early. Look at the targets to TJ, JJ, and Addison......

He needed 100+ rating Sam to win the game with Aaron Jones banged up.....he completed 11/29 passes going into the 4th....he didn't have it.

The key was scoring touchdowns and not having to settle for field goal attempts. You can't beat Detroit with field goals. The play-calling in the red zone was abysmal. The opportunities were there. The team didn't take advantage of them.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I want to believe that KOC will learn from what he saw from both the Rams and Lions in previous games..........but no matter what you need good if not great great QB play to have a chance. KOC was outcoached but Sam was so off early it was the #1 problem.

Players win or lose games. Van Ginkel pick 6 instead of the drop would have changed the game as an example.

Beating great teams takes a lot of things going right. We had almost nothing go right.

People are complaining about the Darnold sack that set us way back. Go back and watch at the play. Somebody grabbed his facemask and it should have been a 15-yard penalty going the other way. I'm not a guy that complains about getting screwed by officials, but they clearly missed that one just like the one they missed earlier in the season in the end zone.

The defense played well for a half. That was the lone positive I took from the game. Despite complete incompetence, we were still in the game five minutes into the second half. It was a winnable game, and largely correctable.

Nothing went right? We had an average field position of the 50 yard line thru the first half if I remember correctly.

KOC offense is based on QB play......you know he lives and dies by it like you talked about the PAC10.

Van Ginkel Pick 6 was going to make it closer but Sam didn't have it in the first or second half.....Mullens would have been a better option in the second half and it wouldn't have been enough as we didn't put the good field position and chances in as TDs early.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I want to believe that KOC will learn from what he saw from both the Rams and Lions in previous games..........but no matter what you need good if not great great QB play to have a chance. KOC was outcoached but Sam was so off early it was the #1 problem.

Players win or lose games. Van Ginkel pick 6 instead of the drop would have changed the game as an example.

Beating great teams takes a lot of things going right. We had almost nothing go right.

People are complaining about the Darnold sack that set us way back. Go back and watch at the play. Somebody grabbed his facemask and it should have been a 15-yard penalty going the other way. I'm not a guy that complains about getting screwed by officials, but they clearly missed that one just like the one they missed earlier in the season in the end zone.

The defense played well for a half. That was the lone positive I took from the game. Despite complete incompetence, we were still in the game five minutes into the second half. It was a winnable game, and largely correctable.

Nothing went right? We had an average field position of the 50 yard line thru the first half if I remember correctly.

KOC offense is based on QB play......you know he lives and dies by it like you talked about the PAC10.

Van Ginkel Pick 6 was going to make it closer but Sam didn't have it in the first or second half.....Mullens would have been a better option in the second half and it wouldn't have been enough as we didn't put the good field position and chances in as TDs early.

Some of this I agree with. Some I don't. How many plays did we run inside the 15-yard line in the opening quarter alone? You gotta put more points on the board. Take the early field goal. They had just denied you on about seven straight plays. It was arrogant to think you were going to score on fourth down. No need to chase points early in a defensive battle. Later in the game you gotta have seven.

I agree with most of the KOC offensive scheme comments. But, he needs to adapt.

Did Darnold look good? No. But the guy isn't a miracle worker, and never has been.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

5 and 30 yard lows in RZ futility.

Not just a bad game.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

It was mentioned and I was screaming all night long about it at my poor tv. Roll him out in the RZ ops. The dude is like 6-5 and 230lbs. If nothing else he can put his head down and make something happen. Continually dropping him back and leaving him as a sitting duck was dumb.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

5 and 30 yard lows in RZ futility.

Not just a bad game.

Year or yard?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I want to believe that KOC will learn from what he saw from both the Rams and Lions in previous games..........but no matter what you need good if not great great QB play to have a chance. KOC was outcoached but Sam was so off early it was the #1 problem.

Players win or lose games. Van Ginkel pick 6 instead of the drop would have changed the game as an example.

Beating great teams takes a lot of things going right. We had almost nothing go right.

People are complaining about the Darnold sack that set us way back. Go back and watch at the play. Somebody grabbed his facemask and it should have been a 15-yard penalty going the other way. I'm not a guy that complains about getting screwed by officials, but they clearly missed that one just like the one they missed earlier in the season in the end zone.

The defense played well for a half. That was the lone positive I took from the game. Despite complete incompetence, we were still in the game five minutes into the second half. It was a winnable game, and largely correctable.

Nothing went right? We had an average field position of the 50 yard line thru the first half if I remember correctly.

KOC offense is based on QB play......you know he lives and dies by it like you talked about the PAC10.

Van Ginkel Pick 6 was going to make it closer but Sam didn't have it in the first or second half.....Mullens would have been a better option in the second half and it wouldn't have been enough as we didn't put the good field position and chances in as TDs early.

Some of this I agree with. Some I don't. How many plays did we run inside the 15-yard line in the opening quarter alone? You gotta put more points on the board. Take the early field goal. They had just denied you on about seven straight plays. It was arrogant to think you were going to score on fourth down. No need to chase points early in a defensive battle. Later in the game you gotta have seven.

I agree with most of the KOC offensive scheme comments. But, he needs to adapt.

Did Darnold look good? No. But the guy isn't a miracle worker, and never has been.

There were at least 5 passes for TDs available in the Red Zone early.....Sam missed an open Addison, and overthrew JJ multiple times.....these weren't difficult passes either-----nothing to do with scheme issues.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

It was mentioned and I was screaming all night long about it at my poor tv. Roll him out in the RZ ops. The dude is like 6-5 and 230lbs. If nothing else he can put his head down and make something happen. Continually dropping him back and leaving him as a sitting duck was dumb.

It wouldn't have helped though....he was just so off.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

5 and 30 yard lows in RZ futility.

Not just a bad game.

Year or yard?

Year

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

It was mentioned and I was screaming all night long about it at my poor tv. Roll him out in the RZ ops. The dude is like 6-5 and 230lbs. If nothing else he can put his head down and make something happen. Continually dropping him back and leaving him as a sitting duck was dumb.

It wouldn't have helped though....he was just so off.

I actually think it could have. Dude is pretty elusive for his size. At least it gave him a run/pass option.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

It was mentioned and I was screaming all night long about it at my poor tv. Roll him out in the RZ ops. The dude is like 6-5 and 230lbs. If nothing else he can put his head down and make something happen. Continually dropping him back and leaving him as a sitting duck was dumb.

It wouldn't have helped though....he was just so off.

I actually think it could have. Dude is pretty elusive for his size. At least it gave him a run/pass option.