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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Doubt any haggling is or will be on a fully guaranteed contract. But say the contract is 4-5 years for $140-175 million. IMO they are more likely to haggle over the % that's guaranteed. 70%? 80%? $100-125 million?

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I wouldn’t have done it. I’m just along for the ride.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

That's a lot of cash for a guy that just missed seven games with a hammy.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

That's a lot of cash for a guy that just missed seven games with a hammy.

Bringing his total to 7 games in 4 years.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

That's a lot of cash for a guy that just missed seven games with a hammy.

Bringing his total to 7 games in 4 years.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I wouldn’t have done it. I’m just along for the ride.

There was a narrative that we should pay him $40 Million AAV fully guaranteed. Jared Allen for one was endorsing that. The reasonable $35 Million AAV $110 guaranteed deal got done.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I wouldn’t have done it. I’m just along for the ride.

There was a narrative that we should pay him $40 Million AAV fully guaranteed. Jared Allen for one was endorsing that. The reasonable $35 Million AAV $110 guaranteed deal got done.

Please. A 'narrative' in your book is some random blog article/post on some obscure web site.

So while it was mentioned for 5 minutes and technically true as a narrative, $40 million per, especially fully guaranteed was never in the cards. Ergo it doesn't make $35 million "reasonable" in your strawman comparison.

$31 million was initially in the cards, based on exceeding Hill's contract. Then the cap increased around 12%. Translated, a likely figure became $34.7 million.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I wouldn’t have done it. I’m just along for the ride.

There was a narrative that we should pay him $40 Million AAV fully guaranteed. Jared Allen for one was endorsing that. The reasonable $35 Million AAV $110 guaranteed deal got done.

Please. A 'narrative' in your book is some random blog article/post on some obscure web site.

So while it was mentioned for 5 minutes and technically true as a narrative, $40 million per, especially fully guaranteed was never in the cards. Ergo it doesn't make $35 million "reasonable" in your strawman comparison.

$31 million was initially in the cards, based on exceeding Hill's contract. Then the cap increased around 12%. Translated, a likely figure became $34.7 million.

It will be interesting to see how the bonus is applied. Basically Kirk's Money is now going to JJ.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Will be fun to see if Dallas has problems with negotiating contracts for Dak, Lamb, and Parsons whose positions are the three highest ($) in football.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Whatever. It was going to get done one way or the other.

IMO the deal was mandated by the marketing machine that is already in place to promote JJ, not for his actual competitive impact.

Doesn't matter if Darnold or JJ fall flat and JJ's production goes down, the Wilfs have locked in the tip of their sales spear. The Griddy >>> TDs.

For some reason, we seem to think spending top dollar on players regardless of position makes us more legitimate. Can't wait to sign Darrisaw ... at least we'll be blowing our wad legitimately. Right now we're lighting up the books with top 5 contracts at WR, FB, RT, TE and S (if you go by 35 year olds).

With shirtless Kirko gone and no franchise QB on the books, the team had to go coddle somebody.

Thank God at least JJ is not a TE. If he were, KOC would have campaigned for a Jordan-like profit percentage on top of guaranteed money.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Whatever. It was going to get done one way or the other.

IMO the deal was mandated by the marketing machine that is already in place to promote JJ, not for his actual competitive impact.

Doesn't matter if Darnold or JJ fall flat and JJ's production goes down, the Wilfs have locked in the tip of their sales spear. The Griddy >>> TDs.

For some reason, we seem to think spending top dollar on players regardless of position makes us more legitimate. Can't wait to sign Darrisaw ... at least we'll be blowing our wad legitimately. Right now we're lighting up the books with top 5 contracts at WR, FB, RT, TE and S (if you go by 35 year olds).

With shirtless Kirko gone and no franchise QB on the books, the team had to go coddle somebody.

Thank God at least JJ is not a TE. If he were, KOC would have campaigned for a Jordan-like profit percentage on top of guaranteed money.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

JJ is apparently due $88.743M at contract signing. I don't know what means structure wise.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Whatever. It was going to get done one way or the other.

IMO the deal was mandated by the marketing machine that is already in place to promote JJ, not for his actual competitive impact.

Doesn't matter if Darnold or JJ fall flat and JJ's production goes down, the Wilfs have locked in the tip of their sales spear. The Griddy >>> TDs.

For some reason, we seem to think spending top dollar on players regardless of position makes us more legitimate. Can't wait to sign Darrisaw ... at least we'll be blowing our wad legitimately. Right now we're lighting up the books with top 5 contracts at WR, FB, RT, TE and S (if you go by 35 year olds).

With shirtless Kirko gone and no franchise QB on the books, the team had to go coddle somebody.

Thank God at least JJ is not a TE. If he were, KOC would have campaigned for a Jordan-like profit percentage on top of guaranteed money.

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ORIGINAL: beo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Whatever. It was going to get done one way or the other.

IMO the deal was mandated by the marketing machine that is already in place to promote JJ, not for his actual competitive impact.

Doesn't matter if Darnold or JJ fall flat and JJ's production goes down, the Wilfs have locked in the tip of their sales spear. The Griddy >>> TDs.

For some reason, we seem to think spending top dollar on players regardless of position makes us more legitimate. Can't wait to sign Darrisaw ... at least we'll be blowing our wad legitimately. Right now we're lighting up the books with top 5 contracts at WR, FB, RT, TE and S (if you go by 35 year olds).

With shirtless Kirko gone and no franchise QB on the books, the team had to go coddle somebody.

Thank God at least JJ is not a TE. If he were, KOC would have campaigned for a Jordan-like profit percentage on top of guaranteed money.

I get people aren't excited to commit huge money to single player after the Kirk trauma.

But I feel like Jefferson production is gets minimized a bit.
He holds the all time record for yards in the 1st 3 years for WR I believe.
I believe he has the all time highest yards per game (98 ypg?).
Agreed, would like to see more TDs...

In addition, I think you need superstars to win.
WR is probably a bit down on the list... maybe behind qb, de, cb...
But I think guys like Kupp, Chase, Hill & Julio Jones were major factors in getting teams to the superbowl.

I really want to see the Jefferson/Addison 1-2 punch.

Kirk is gone... that was my main offseason wish.

As a Minnesota fan, if you can't be optimistic in the offseason all you got is heartache.