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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/25/2025 1:16:38 PM   
Tom Sykes

 

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Like I said. Dumbasses gotta dumbass for fools to click..


Mmmm.. Kay…!

News flash!

Insiders report!:


“Oh but my brothers cousin who has a hot dog stand in Eden prairie said Roger’s bought a vegan chili dog last Wednesday from the widow of my cusin Vinny’s Limo…”

Gtfoohwts!

If you understand it for what it is …

its no better or worse than a lot of the conjecture in here.

its just out there, thats all.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/25/2025 5:06:59 PM   
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All told to date this off-season, Kwesi has signed 17 players (13 new additions and 4 returning players) while garnering two 2026 compensatory picks - a 3rd (pick #97) and a 4th/5th. Of those 17, ten are pencilled in as starters: Jones, Mason, Freis, Kelly, Allen, Hargave, Murphy, Rodgers, Smith and Jackson.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/25/2025 5:07:51 PM   
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I really like this kid.

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Despite McCarthy and Brett Rypien being the only signal callers on the roster at the moment, McCarthy said Minnesota hasn’t guaranteed him the starting job yet after being asked when he knew he was their guy.

“They haven’t told me and I’m happy they didn’t because I try to earn it every single day,” McCarthy said, via the Up & Adams Show. “I never want that to be given to me… It’s such a privilege and opportunity to give me that chance… I’m just going to make the most of it every single day.”
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/25/2025 6:35:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

I really like this kid.

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Despite McCarthy and Brett Rypien being the only signal callers on the roster at the moment, McCarthy said Minnesota hasn’t guaranteed him the starting job yet after being asked when he knew he was their guy.

“They haven’t told me and I’m happy they didn’t because I try to earn it every single day,” McCarthy said, via the Up & Adams Show. “I never want that to be given to me… It’s such a privilege and opportunity to give me that chance… I’m just going to make the most of it every single day.”


Slightly different than the Spielman Method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18vTWgUjHcY
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 10:29:15 AM   
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I gotta be honest, knowing full well it wasn't an issue: I'm glad it wasn't us signing Diggs for 3 years.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 10:30:57 AM   
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Anyone an ESPN plus subscriber. I used to love when guys would post some of the national buzz articles and then they would get kicked around in this group. I see ESPN has a ranking of free agent classes. Full confession I don't have it because we had the choice between that and Max with our Disney subscription, I have three daughters and a wife. I voted for ESPN plus, they voted for Max.........so ......
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 10:48:02 AM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I gotta be honest, knowing full well it wasn't an issue: I'm glad it wasn't us signing Diggs for 3 years.

No kidding. The money / the comeback from injury concern ... imo the attitude concern ...
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 10:50:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ebergste

Anyone an ESPN plus subscriber. I used to love when guys would post some of the national buzz articles and then they would get kicked around in this group. I see ESPN has a ranking of free agent classes. Full confession I don't have it because we had the choice between that and Max with our Disney subscription, I have three daughters and a wife. I voted for ESPN plus, they voted for Max.........so ......


2025 NFL free agency class rankings: Most improved rosters
Ben Solak
Mar 26, 2025, 06:15 AM ET


Welcome to the new league year! Joey Bosa is a Bill, Geno Smith is a Raider, and Joe Thuney is a Bear -- what a time we live in. Now that all of the free agency dust has settled -- sorry, now that all of the free agency dust outside of Aaron Rodgers' control has settled -- I'm ranking all 32 teams by their offseason process.

I didn't want to just rank their incoming free agent classes, because that would simply be a ranking of which teams spent the most money. I tried to consider everything: Not just free agent acquisitions and departures, but trades and extensions and restructures. I knocked teams that signed great players but probably overspent or had poor priorities; I rewarded teams that spent little, but did so wisely and attacked the right positions. What could have been was also considered: The Browns don't get points for signing Myles Garrett to the same contract everyone would have, when they're the only team that could have gotten picks by giving that contract to someone else.

Of course, the same is true for other teams -- why didn't the Bengals trade Tee Higgins? Or the Rams trade Matthew Stafford? But those are teams with legitimate shots at contention, whose moves I grade differently than those of spiraling franchises like the Browns.

Think of these as NFL Power Rankings, but only grading the five weeks and ignoring everything that came before. (For Bills fans, hopefully you'll be at the top of the real Power Rankings by February.) As such, they're highly subjective, and splitting hairs within tiers can be challenging. I waffled on the order while writing this, and I waffle still as I read it.

With that vote of supreme confidence cast, here are my offseason rankings:

3. Minnesota Vikings
Key acquisitions and returning players:
G Will Fries, C Ryan Kelly, CB Byron Murphy Jr., RB Aaron Jones

I loved: The investment in the offensive line. Fries was one of my top free agent gems -- he's one of the best players nobody knows about, and he should make a big push for a Pro Bowl spot at guard if he fully recovers from his tibia injury. The need at guard was obvious; the need at center was far more subtle. I thought the Vikings would happily play out another year with Garrett Bradbury at the pivot, surrendering his pass protection issues for his running game value. Instead, they did what true contenders do and tried to upgrade not just at the needy positions, but also the average ones. I'm not sure it will work -- Kelly (31) is older than Bradbury (29) -- but it's a good risk to take.

I didn't love: Just how much Jonathan Allen cost. In general, double-dipping at 3-technique opposite Harrison Phillips is a shrewd approach, and both Allen and Javon Hargrave can provide an immediate impact. I did not, however, expect Allen to tip the financial scales at $17 million per year. The entire defensive tackle market came in above my expectation, so perhaps this was just the cost of doing business.

Allen is now the league's 15th-highest-paid defensive tackle, and Hargrave ($15 million per year) is the 18th. While Allen might have been more expensive than I expected (and Hargrave too, for that matter), the theory behind the approach is sound. I just wish it came at a smaller price tag.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/44363563/2025-nfl-free-agency-class-rankings-teams-improved-better-worse-signings-deals#min

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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 10:51:46 AM   
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Buffalo came in at #1, Rams at #2.

#4 Lions
#15 Bears
#23 Packers
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 11:10:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: ebergste

Anyone an ESPN plus subscriber. I used to love when guys would post some of the national buzz articles and then they would get kicked around in this group. I see ESPN has a ranking of free agent classes. Full confession I don't have it because we had the choice between that and Max with our Disney subscription, I have three daughters and a wife. I voted for ESPN plus, they voted for Max.........so ......


2025 NFL free agency class rankings: Most improved rosters
Ben Solak
Mar 26, 2025, 06:15 AM ET


Welcome to the new league year! Joey Bosa is a Bill, Geno Smith is a Raider, and Joe Thuney is a Bear -- what a time we live in. Now that all of the free agency dust has settled -- sorry, now that all of the free agency dust outside of Aaron Rodgers' control has settled -- I'm ranking all 32 teams by their offseason process.

I didn't want to just rank their incoming free agent classes, because that would simply be a ranking of which teams spent the most money. I tried to consider everything: Not just free agent acquisitions and departures, but trades and extensions and restructures. I knocked teams that signed great players but probably overspent or had poor priorities; I rewarded teams that spent little, but did so wisely and attacked the right positions. What could have been was also considered: The Browns don't get points for signing Myles Garrett to the same contract everyone would have, when they're the only team that could have gotten picks by giving that contract to someone else.

Of course, the same is true for other teams -- why didn't the Bengals trade Tee Higgins? Or the Rams trade Matthew Stafford? But those are teams with legitimate shots at contention, whose moves I grade differently than those of spiraling franchises like the Browns.

Think of these as NFL Power Rankings, but only grading the five weeks and ignoring everything that came before. (For Bills fans, hopefully you'll be at the top of the real Power Rankings by February.) As such, they're highly subjective, and splitting hairs within tiers can be challenging. I waffled on the order while writing this, and I waffle still as I read it.

With that vote of supreme confidence cast, here are my offseason rankings:

3. Minnesota Vikings
Key acquisitions and returning players:
G Will Fries, C Ryan Kelly, CB Byron Murphy Jr., RB Aaron Jones

I loved: The investment in the offensive line. Fries was one of my top free agent gems -- he's one of the best players nobody knows about, and he should make a big push for a Pro Bowl spot at guard if he fully recovers from his tibia injury. The need at guard was obvious; the need at center was far more subtle. I thought the Vikings would happily play out another year with Garrett Bradbury at the pivot, surrendering his pass protection issues for his running game value. Instead, they did what true contenders do and tried to upgrade not just at the needy positions, but also the average ones. I'm not sure it will work -- Kelly (31) is older than Bradbury (29) -- but it's a good risk to take.

I didn't love: Just how much Jonathan Allen cost. In general, double-dipping at 3-technique opposite Harrison Phillips is a shrewd approach, and both Allen and Javon Hargrave can provide an immediate impact. I did not, however, expect Allen to tip the financial scales at $17 million per year. The entire defensive tackle market came in above my expectation, so perhaps this was just the cost of doing business.

Allen is now the league's 15th-highest-paid defensive tackle, and Hargrave ($15 million per year) is the 18th. While Allen might have been more expensive than I expected (and Hargrave too, for that matter), the theory behind the approach is sound. I just wish it came at a smaller price tag.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/44363563/2025-nfl-free-agency-class-rankings-teams-improved-better-worse-signings-deals#min


Pretty solid take. Can't argue with much. I agree it is a lot for two guys who both could spend the whole year on the bench with injuries in the worst case scenario . But I think that was what it was going to take to get them. Numbers always look better in a year or two also. Look at JJ's deal.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 5:52:59 PM   
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Handpicked from Kwesi’s presser today:

"Rogersrogersrogersrogers … jjmjjmjjmjjmjjm … but Brett Rypien, who's someone we brought in last offseason, who we thought made a lot of great decisions, quick decision-making, processing, a better athlete than people give him credit for, an accurate passer. So, we're excited about him."

Okay. With all deferance to Daniel … I’m going to go back fishing around The Insiders for small morsels of usable information.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 5:59:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Handpicked from Kwesi’s presser today:

"Rogersrogersrogersrogers … jjmjjmjjmjjmjjm … but Brett Rypien, who's someone we brought in last offseason, who we thought made a lot of great decisions, quick decision-making, processing, a better athlete than people give him credit for, an accurate passer. So, we're excited about him."

Okay. With all deferance to Daniel … I’m going to go back fishing around The Insiders for small morsels of usable information.



He's 28 years-old and in 10 career games (4 starts) has 4 TDs, 9 INTs, a 58.3 Cmp%, 11 sacks and 7 fumbles.
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RE: 2025 Vikings Free Agency - 3/26/2025 7:26:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Handpicked from Kwesi’s presser today:

"Rogersrogersrogersrogers … jjmjjmjjmjjmjjm … but Brett Rypien, who's someone we brought in last offseason, who we thought made a lot of great decisions, quick decision-making, processing, a better athlete than people give him credit for, an accurate passer. So, we're excited about him."

Okay. With all deferance to Daniel … I’m going to go back fishing around The Insiders for small morsels of usable information.



He's 28 years-old and in 10 career games (4 starts) has 4 TDs, 9 INTs, a 58.3 Cmp%, 11 sacks and 7 fumbles.

Right. Rypien ain’t it. I’m all for Kevin trying to whisper some gold out of a chunk of base metals … as a hobby. Pulling your main backup out of a hat with limited practice opportunities … well, its just not advisable.
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