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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Murray at his current contract =

Murray at 1.5 =

Not a slam dunk but it's intriguing enough that you try it out for a year.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Murray at his current contract =

Murray at 1.5 =

Not a slam dunk but it's intriguing enough that you try it out for a year.

Thor (from Skor North) wanted Geno over Kyler.

I think Geno is washed also.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Murray at his current contract =

Murray at 1.5 =

Not a slam dunk but it's intriguing enough that you try it out for a year.

Thor (from Skor North) wanted Geno over Kyler.

I think Geno is washed also.

I was a bit torn on Geno. He was decent in Seattle but was horrible last year. That said, it was the Raiders so was it him? Then the Jets brought him back so that confirms it. He's just bad

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Aaron Rodgers - Big $

Kirk Cousins - Big $

Kyler Murray - Cheap, has life left

Russell Wilson - Done

Tyrod Taylor - Never Was

Zach Wilson - Never Was

Joe Flacco - Done

Jimmy Garappolo - Done

Carson Wentz - Done

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

But he's no answer.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

But he's no answer.

Are you answering your own quote?

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

Couple thoughts on Murray. First for the last four years the Cardinals had one of leagues worst defenses. This put a lot of pressure on a QB as their often playing from behind or trying match the other team score for score. In the words of the late great Bud Grant "Offence sells tickets defense wins championships".

I keep reading that if we sign Murray, JJM is finished in Minnesota. Nothing could be further from the truth. Starting QB's playing every game without being out with injuries is becoming rarer every year. JJM will get plenty of time to fine tune his skills and will probably start a few games as a QB2. Having two high level QB's is getting to be vital for any team trying to make the playoffs.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

This is...not ideal...

Kyler Murray's Deep Ball Problem

If quarterbacks need to be able to throw the ball downfield, Kyler Murray is one of the NFL’s worst starting quarterbacks.

Murray has traditionally struggled massively to throw a football downfield, and 2025 added to that legacy.

On passes 20+ yards downfield, out of 42 qualifying QBs, Murray ranked #39 in accuracy and #38 in completion rate.

Let’s examine Murray’s NFL rank over the last four years by depth.

On 25+ yard passes, Murray ranks:

#36 of 36 in completion rate (21%)
#36 of 36 in EPA/attempt (-0.18)
#36 of 36 in Y/A (7.5)

How about 20+ yards downfield?

Murray ranks:

#40 of 46 in completion rate (30%)
#45 of 46 in EPA/attempt (-0.16)
#42 of 46 in Y/A (8.7)

How about 15+ yards downfield?

Murray ranks:

#42 of 51 in completion rate (38%)
#51 of 51 in EPA/attempt (+0.05)
#47 of 51 in Y/A (9.3)

We really only need to stop there, because throwing the ball less than 15 yards isn’t really considered taking “a shot downfield,” but to just put a bow on the analysis, let’s look at all passes over 10 yards downfield.

I raised the cutoff to 175 attempts to further reduce the pool. Murray ranks:

#36 of 43 in completion rate (43%)
#43 of 43 in EPA/attempt (+0.08)
#41 of 43 in Y/A (8.8)

These aren’t just bad numbers. These are terrible numbers.

There are 32 qualifying quarterbacks.

Murray doesn’t rank in the top 32 throwing downfield, regardless of whether your definition is 10 yards, 15 yards, 20 yards, or 25 yards.

As Murray becomes one of the most talked about quarterbacks in trade discussions, it’s hard to imagine where a quarterback with a massive limitation of throwing the football downfield can become a franchise QB that actually wins meaningful games for teams.

Kyler Murray's Extensive Injury History

He’s not getting better.

He’s getting older and suffering more injuries as the years go by.

Since 2020, Murray has made it through just one of five seasons healthy.

His injury record is extensive:

2025: played only 5 of 17 games after suffering a Lisfranc-type mid-foot sprain
2023: played only 8 of 17 games due to rehabbing his prior-year ACL injury
2022: suffered a hamstring strain, missed multiple games, then tore his ACL and meniscus
2021: suffered a Grade 2 ankle sprain and missed multiple games

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/kyler-murray-deep-ball-stats-trade-analysis-2026/#

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

Couple thoughts on Murray. First for the last four years the Cardinals had one of leagues worst defenses. This put a lot of pressure on a QB as their often playing from behind or trying match the other team score for score. In the words of the late great Bud Grant "Offence sells tickets defense wins championships".

I keep reading that if we sign Murray, JJM is finished in Minnesota. Nothing could be further from the truth. Starting QB's playing every game without being out with injuries is becoming rarer every year. JJM will get plenty of time to fine tune his skills and will probably start a few games as a QB2. Having two high level QB's is getting to be vital for any team trying to make the playoffs.

Whats your definition of high level?

This:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1rk3m5a/highlight_kyler_murray_throws_the_worst_pick_6_in/

Gzuz our standard is low.

Lets sign Murray and hope he plays better and more consistently under KOC. Lets hope JJM develops quickly into a player.

Talking about either like we’re open for playoff business is a long way off. A lot needs to happen first.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Mark Wilf said today that Vikings fans deserve to be "competitively entertained". That's a clear sign Murray will be a Viking.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Mark Wilf said today that Vikings fans deserve to be "competitively entertained". That's a clear sign Murray will be a Viking.

Of course, Kyler will have to pass a physical and our, ‘you think I’m funny, like a clown?’ field drills.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDdXD_qDqc

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Mark Wilf said today that Vikings fans deserve to be "competitively entertained". That's a clear sign Murray will be a Viking.

Of course, Kyler will have to pass a physical and our, ‘you think I’m funny, like a clown?’ field drills.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDdXD_qDqc

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Mark Wilf said today that Vikings fans deserve to be "competitively entertained". That's a clear sign Murray will be a Viking.

Of course, Kyler will have to pass a physical and our, ‘you think I’m funny, like a clown?’ field drills.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDdXD_qDqc

I heard when they tapped his knee to check his reflexes it dislocated his kneecap.