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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am more concerned with RB, C, DE, and S than QB at this point.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am more concerned with RB, C, DE, and S than QB at this point.

When the season ends, QB play will have dictated it's success or failure. Because again, it is THE most critical position in team sports.

Absent a top flight QB, it will always be my #1 concern.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

I can see where Murray would have a strong short passing stats. Dual threat QB's often draw a spy. That has to leave someone open in the short game most likely a tight end or running back. Nothing wrong with the short game. Tarkenton made a living out the short game not to mention the 49's west coast offense.

We do need a receiving RB....Jones is above average when healthy but it is time. I know that Murray hasn't played with a top end RB either.....so say we draft Love?

How do we get into the Top 8 to get him?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am more concerned with RB, C, DE, and S than QB at this point.

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

I can see where Murray would have a strong short passing stats. Dual threat QB's often draw a spy. That has to leave someone open in the short game most likely a tight end or running back. Nothing wrong with the short game. Tarkenton made a living out the short game not to mention the 49's west coast offense.

We do need a receiving RB....Jones is above average when healthy but it is time. I know that Murray hasn't played with a top end RB either.....so say we draft Love?

How do we get into the Top 8 to get him?

Maybe this will be a break out year for Zavier Scott. Scott was a wide receiver before switching to RB.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am more concerned with RB, C, DE, and S than QB at this point.

Yea - for sure. Even with Jones coming back this is a very big need.
Very much so - Nothing here and it seems we are going Brandel/Jurgens/Draft pick. Not exactly "exciting"
not so much - Even if they trade Grenard, they have to see what a full year of Turner brings. Depth is a bit of an issue.
meh, maybe - Smith will be back but I'm more concerned about quality at CB than S, either way

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ashton jeanty averaged 3.7 yards a carry last year...mason averaged 4.8 yards a carry...with o'connell calling the plays, we don't need a 1st/2nd round running back....

i think that o'connell failed chandler...he doesn't know how to call running plays - calls the wrong running plays for players with a certain skill sets....

murray is strictly a shotgun qb, just the excuse o'connell wanted to avoid running the ball....

we'll pay murray $60mm/yr after a one-and-done playoff run this season....

i don't mean to sound negative, but this whole deal seems like a phucked up setup to me...one that is going to force us to overpay murray in the future and keep o'connell on the job....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

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ORIGINAL: Murph

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

This is what happens when you draft poorly for 3-4 years consecutively. We also have zero depth.

Sadly, it'll be easier to pair BPA and need in the upcoming draft.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am more concerned with RB, C, DE, and S than QB at this point.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ashton jeanty averaged 3.7 yards a carry last year...mason averaged 4.8 yards a carry...with o'connell calling the plays, we don't need a 1st/2nd round running back....

i think that o'connell failed chandler...he doesn't know how to call running plays - calls the wrong running plays for players with a certain skill sets....

murray is strictly a shotgun qb, just the excuse o'connell wanted to avoid running the ball....

we'll pay murray $60mm/yr after a one-and-done playoff run this season....

i don't mean to sound negative, but this whole deal seems like a phucked up setup to me...one that is going to force us to overpay murray in the future and keep o'connell on the job....

Really. Its a frivolous comparison … Jeanty - Mason. yac has so many variables.

Totally agree we dont need a rb in first two rounds.

Totally disagree we failed Chandler … the dude has never shown an ounce of intuitive rb ability / his on field speed is vastly lower than his timed speed. I mean, we haven’t put together a good OL but at least we are trying compared to Spielman. Hopefully our OL coaching and our additions will work better. Needs to be our #1 focus, barely beating out our secondary and only because Flores is a better coordinator than KOC, doing better with much less.

I thought Mason was a savy move … still do. One of the few FA bright spots from last year. Very important this year with our new waterbug qb.

But Mason is more rugged than explosive, Jones is less explosive and more oft injured as he goes along. We still need a viable third option … its neither critical nor urgent but needs to be addressed somehow.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

I think NT should be at the top of the list.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ashton jeanty averaged 3.7 yards a carry last year...mason averaged 4.8 yards a carry...with o'connell calling the plays, we don't need a 1st/2nd round running back....

i think that o'connell failed chandler...he doesn't know how to call running plays - calls the wrong running plays for players with a certain skill sets....

murray is strictly a shotgun qb, just the excuse o'connell wanted to avoid running the ball....

we'll pay murray $60mm/yr after a one-and-done playoff run this season....

i don't mean to sound negative, but this whole deal seems like a phucked up setup to me...one that is going to force us to overpay murray in the future and keep o'connell on the job....

Really. Its a frivolous comparison … Jeanty - Mason. yac has so many variables.

Totally agree we dont need a rb in first two rounds.

Totally disagree we failed Chandler … the dude has never shown an ounce of intuitive rb ability / his on field speed is vastly lower than his timed speed. I mean, we haven’t put together a good OL but at least we are trying compared to Spielman. Hopefully our OL coaching and our additions will work better. Needs to be our #1 focus, barely beating out our secondary and only because Flores is a better coordinator than KOC, doing better with much less.

I thought Mason was a savy move … still do. One of the few FA bright spots from last year. Very important this year with our new waterbug qb.

But Mason is more rugged than explosive, Jones is less explosive and more oft injured as he goes along. We still need a viable third option … its neither critical nor urgent but needs to be addressed somehow.

my connotation was: don't sell the farm to draft the best rb....

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

I think NT should be at the top of the list.

You know it's been a while since we had an elite run stuffing NT that can beat a double team. Here's 3 top prospects coming up in the draft that should be available to us.

Kayden McDonald (Ohio State): Regarded as a premier 2026 nose tackle with a high PFF grade (89.2), showing elite ability to control blocks and playmaking talent (57 tackles, 8 TFL).

Caleb Banks (Florida): A 6-6, 327 lb prospect with elite size and 40-time speed (5.04) for a NT, projected as a top pick.

Lee Hunter (Texas Tech): A strong 6-3, 318 lb prospect with a 5.06-second 40-yard dash, noted for playing with high leverage and strength.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

I think NT should be at the top of the list.

You know it's been a while since we had an elite run stuffing NT that can beat a double team. Here's 3 top prospects coming up in the draft that should be available to us.

Kayden McDonald (Ohio State): Regarded as a premier 2026 nose tackle with a high PFF grade (89.2), showing elite ability to control blocks and playmaking talent (57 tackles, 8 TFL).

Caleb Banks (Florida): A 6-6, 327 lb prospect with elite size and 40-time speed (5.04) for a NT, projected as a top pick.

Lee Hunter (Texas Tech): A strong 6-3, 318 lb prospect with a 5.06-second 40-yard dash, noted for playing with high leverage and strength.

I would offer Grenard and a 3rd for to Philly for Carter.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I am more concerned with RB, C, DE, and S than QB at this point.

I think I saw the exact same post from you last year.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

If they want me back in the game they'll add Tyreek Hill.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Current bare-minimum needs as in they must be addressed:
WR3 because Felton doesn't appear to be ready
DE
S if Smith decides to retire


Other:
C is a big need however they could accept risk and conceivably trot out Brandel and Jurgens as they address other needs. I think they'll sign or draft a C.
CB lacks top end talent. It always has.
RB. A gadget David Palmer type, a bruiser, a speedster, an all-around back... they all sound good.

I think NT should be at the top of the list.