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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 3:40:08 PM   
David Levine


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Kirk has 20 passing TDs and 2 more Rushing.

Our entire team has 11 Offensive TDs.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 3:41:05 PM   
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Not that I think Kirko Chainz is going to get this team anywhere, but sure is fascinating

My thought exactly. Of course I thought the same thing with Murray.

Kirko’s rigor mortis is just a shade under Wentz but obviously a much better arm in a clean pocket.

In the end, KC was just a big ol’ tease his first time here. And a gigantic bamboozler.

I’m sure he’ll show up invigorated, like when you take your old dog to the vet … enough adrenaline to actually get spunky for a short burst.

Give it four or five weeks with this OL, Kirko and Wentzy will be fighting it out to be first in the sideline tent, like the two old guys in ‘Up’.

Raiders OLine might be worse than ours.

Reading some of his stats this year, Cousins negative play rate was low, TDs and yards are high and INTs were pretty low.

But, we are throwing him to the wolves with GB at Lambeau and SF playing at a very high level.

He's going from a great playcaller to this bum. I dont have high expectations but I don't mind it for the lower 3rd rounder to try something.

He did pretty well with the bum the last time around.

And we have a defense this time around. We had a sieve the last time Cousins was here.

But, he is 38 this time around. Should be interesting.

We just need to be able to score 24 and this team has something. Definitely interesting.


The odd thing is if we have the ball normal TOP no way Bills score 17 last night.....the long Josh Allen TD---a lineman was 5 yards down field and the rushing TD was because the defense was worn out.

With adequate offense the Bills probably score 13 and the Lions probably 10. The D got worn out the last 2 weeks.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 3:43:01 PM   
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Kirk has 20 passing TDs and 2 more Rushing.

Our entire team has 11 Offensive TDs.

This at least puts the spotlight on KOC. Probably worth a 3rd for the GM to see everything he needs to going forward.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:00:45 PM   
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Kirk has 20 passing TDs and 2 more Rushing.

Our entire team has 11 Offensive TDs.

This at least puts the spotlight on KOC. Probably worth a 3rd for the GM to see everything he needs to going forward.

Games should at least be watchable now. Last night was absolutely unwatchable.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:03:52 PM   
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Not that I think Kirko Chainz is going to get this team anywhere, but sure is fascinating

My thought exactly. Of course I thought the same thing with Murray.

Kirko’s rigor mortis is just a shade under Wentz but obviously a much better arm in a clean pocket.

In the end, KC was just a big ol’ tease his first time here. And a gigantic bamboozler.

I’m sure he’ll show up invigorated, like when you take your old dog to the vet … enough adrenaline to actually get spunky for a short burst.

Give it four or five weeks with this OL, Kirko and Wentzy will be fighting it out to be first in the sideline tent, like the two old guys in ‘Up’.

Raiders OLine might be worse than ours.

Reading some of his stats this year, Cousins negative play rate was low, TDs and yards are high and INTs were pretty low.

But, we are throwing him to the wolves with GB at Lambeau and SF playing at a very high level.

He's going from a great playcaller to this bum. I dont have high expectations but I don't mind it for the lower 3rd rounder to try something.

He did pretty well with the bum the last time around.

And we have a defense this time around. We had a sieve the last time Cousins was here.

But, he is 38 this time around. Should be interesting.

Like Darnold, he did pretty well until it mattered most.

Flores’ defenses haven’t held up as well the last few games of the season either.

Everyone has a lot to prove.

I would much rather have Cousins than muray wentz brosmer - for this situation. Cousins had to go the first time around period.

As a temporary fix, it could be a lot worse. I think it’s a mistake to equate what he did with the raiders and project that onto us. There’s the gestalt thing of the individual pieces creating their own unique whole … we’ll see how it functions this time around.

More critically important than anything else, I’m just happy I get to dust off the ‘Egyptians coming up on him from behind’ routine.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:20:36 PM   
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We've seen Kirk Cousins play good football in this offense

We've seen Kirk Cousins play good football this season

*If* we don't see Kirk Cousins play good football the rest of the way ... the issue is going to be pretty easy to identity.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:31:12 PM   
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We cannot assume that had the Vikings scored more on offense, that the other team's offense would have played exactly the same, that they would have scored the exact same amount of points.

That is a poor assumption.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:32:28 PM   
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The Vikings will very likely lose their next 2 games on the road, the offense will likely score more points, and the defense will likely give up more points.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:33:16 PM   
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IF the Vikings somehow win their next 2 games, then they can get the #1 seed, and this season has a completely different outlook.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:34:05 PM   
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Wentz, with a totally clean pocket, ignores 3 WIDE-OPEN easy targets only to throw it right at a defender.

How is this KOC's fault?

https://x.com/MohamedASalad/status/2120164953781076210
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:34:58 PM   
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Kurt usually doesn't usually get early points against strong opponents, it usually garbage time TDs.

IF Kurt has any hot starts in him this year, the Vikings' defense could really be a blast to watch.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:44:15 PM   
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Vikings take on Kirk Cousins' minimum base salary for the rest of the year, and a $10 million fully-guaranteed roster bonus in March. After that, there's a two-year, $80 million option, which you'd assume will be declined.

Also—Cousins is getting paid by three teams in 2026.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:45:56 PM   
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This team will lose the next 2 game, they will be 6-4, it will be try to battle for an ol wild card spot again with Kirko
We have more holes than just QB

Do folks remember the first time Kirk came in with one of the best defenses in the league and just how poorly things went.

Kirk has lost a lot of arm strength at this point in his career. He doesn't have Bowers to throw lob balls to.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:49:41 PM   
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**** me running..

Every.. ****ing .. thing.. I do.. is a god damn struggle..

I hope to **** we don’t extend cousins past ten games.

We will not make the playoffs out of our division.

There I said it..

Now Karma, will have to prove me wrong.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 5:59:27 PM   
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As for Herbert, SD has flatly said no. Not to mention they would have to take $73 million in dead cap.

And as for Herbert, the repeated (here) "hand injury" is his non-throwing hand plus he's likely to start this week.

Just wanted to clean up those things.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 6:02:10 PM   
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This team will lose the next 2 game, they will be 6-4, it will be try to battle for an ol wild card spot again with Kirko
We have more holes than just QB

Do folks remember the first time Kirk came in with one of the best defenses in the league and just how poorly things went.

Kirk has lost a lot of arm strength at this point in his career. He doesn't have Bowers to throw lob balls to.


Yes Raiders comments on the equivalent of the Daily Norsemen frequently mentioned diminished arm strength, although overall they weirdly embraced him.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 6:02:47 PM   
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**** me running..

Every.. ****ing .. thing.. I do.. is a god damn struggle..

I hope to **** we don’t extend cousins past ten games.

We will not make the playoffs out of our division.

There I said it..

Now Karma, will have to prove me wrong.


Alright good. You've said what you need to.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 6:19:44 PM   
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This team will lose the next 2 game, they will be 6-4, it will be try to battle for an ol wild card spot again with Kirko
We have more holes than just QB

Do folks remember the first time Kirk came in with one of the best defenses in the league and just how poorly things went.

Kirk has lost a lot of arm strength at this point in his career. He doesn't have Bowers to throw lob balls to.


Might not be a bad thing. When its 3rd and 4, Kirk will hit one of the wide-open mid-range targets instead of just chucking the ball to the covered deep guy.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 6:32:45 PM   
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Firing KOC now, and having Flores be the HC the rest of the season, gives you a trial run with Flores as HC.

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

This might be the best post you've ever posted

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 7:23:50 PM   
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in several of the important qb stats this season, kirk cousins is rated either 11th or 12th...seems just like the guy who played for us three years back....

qb rating 97.1, 20 td's - only joe burrow has more td's than cousins...and we've got better receivers and will surround him with a better offense, in general....

should make the rest of the season more interesting....







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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 7:58:14 PM   
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Vikings take on Kirk Cousins' minimum base salary for the rest of the year, and a $10 million fully-guaranteed roster bonus in March. After that, there's a two-year, $80 million option, which you'd assume will be declined.

Also—Cousins is getting paid by three teams in 2026.

Kirk is the GM whisperer
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:02:44 PM   
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This is the best Tinsley could have done. Hopefully a very late 3rd.

Kirk was the only real option out there that was an upgrade, no one else could pick up the offense on the fly in November.

He has looked good for the Raiders but there’s plenty of garbage time to boost his stats. And we’re getting the usual Kirk deer in the highlights and taking sacks. It at least makes the next 9 games watchable, hopefully keeps Jetta from checking out and brings Addison back to life. We’ll see how the D responds as well, sometimes defenses play their best when the offense struggles mightily. They tend to regress a bit when the offense actually performs better, seems counterintuitive but it seems to happen. Still you’d think this defense could help turn 3 pt lead into a three score lead in no time like week 1.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:10:53 PM   
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I wish Kirk were starting with 2 weak opponents at home, where he could score some points, get 2 wins, get some confidence.

Instead, going on the road to GB on a short week, learning the new play book, trying to get chemistry and timing with some of the newer additions, including Jennings, Price, and RBs Mason, Jones Sr., and Dallas.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:14:00 PM   
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The next game will be an attempt at revenge for the Packers, the Pack might blitz the way the Vikings did the 1st game, to try and turn the tables.

The Packers have a more aggressive defense this year, they just went on the road and beat a Patriots team that was playing well, beat them convincingly.

The Vikings will need to counter blitzes with screens and quick throws.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/10/2026 8:16:06 PM   
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Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.


Well done Brad!

Just started watching Raiders highlights from this season, one of the 1st TDs was Cousins hitting a WR across the middle.

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