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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: marty

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

While this post by Brad is true since Cousins, is was not true when Cousins last played in Minnesota.

Cousins started out slow in his playoff game against the Giants, probably could have used more check downs and outlets. When he checked down on the final play, he just needed to either checkdown a lot sooner (Brady sometimes did that, and the WR or TE would convert the long 3rd or 4th down), or made the better choice and tried to hit JJ for the 1st down.

It goes without saying O'Connell's game planning hasn't been effective and lacks creativity. Whatever his game plan was Monday the Bill's defense was ready for it.

Game planning isn’t the key. It will be what he can check in and out of and blocking. That is where Kirk is best. He just knows where the ball should be thrown.

On third and 19 he'll check down, guaranteed.

I know people are going to instantly think I believe the Cousins move was a terrible move, but I don't. We were stuck in a gigantic shithole given our 6-0 start to the season and now having some of the worst quarterback play on the planet.

As long as the guy isn't the starter next season with a new contract, I'm okay with the move for the remainder of the season. I always said Cousins was the most overpaid player in the league the last time around. Now he is getting paid what he is deserved, about $650k for the rest of the season. To me, he'll always be the guy that led the Anti-Vax movement, which was as irresponsible of a move as I have ever seen by a guy making that much money. He's the RFK Jr. of the league.

IMO, the move has pretty much ended the career of Kyler Murray.

Talk about your politics somewhere else. Preferably the thread titled no one gives a shit but you thread.

Kyler's play ended his career as a starter here......odds are he won't be done. He may have to be a backup or someone else probably will give him a chance.

The guy was supposed to be a leader. He put his team in harm's way. Like it or not, that's football talk.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Kirk Cousins .. antivax idiot
Arron Rodger’s.. antivax idiot..
Harrison Butker.. multiple topic, including, antivax, ..idiot…

RFK jr. … antivax idiot..

Seems to be a football related trend.. and a ven diagram includes them all..

Relevant..

But Phil jumps in with indignant commentary about “ thread policing “..

Tough times is bumfuck SD…

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: marty

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

While this post by Brad is true since Cousins, is was not true when Cousins last played in Minnesota.

Cousins started out slow in his playoff game against the Giants, probably could have used more check downs and outlets. When he checked down on the final play, he just needed to either checkdown a lot sooner (Brady sometimes did that, and the WR or TE would convert the long 3rd or 4th down), or made the better choice and tried to hit JJ for the 1st down.

It goes without saying O'Connell's game planning hasn't been effective and lacks creativity. Whatever his game plan was Monday the Bill's defense was ready for it.

Game planning isn’t the key. It will be what he can check in and out of and blocking. That is where Kirk is best. He just knows where the ball should be thrown.

On third and 19 he'll check down, guaranteed.

I know people are going to instantly think I believe the Cousins move was a terrible move, but I don't. We were stuck in a gigantic shithole given our 6-0 start to the season and now having some of the worst quarterback play on the planet.

As long as the guy isn't the starter next season with a new contract, I'm okay with the move for the remainder of the season. I always said Cousins was the most overpaid player in the league the last time around. Now he is getting paid what he is deserved, about $650k for the rest of the season. To me, he'll always be the guy that led the Anti-Vax movement, which was as irresponsible of a move as I have ever seen by a guy making that much money. He's the RFK Jr. of the league.

IMO, the move has pretty much ended the career of Kyler Murray.

Talk about your politics somewhere else. Preferably the thread titled no one gives a shit but you thread.

Kyler's play ended his career as a starter here......odds are he won't be done. He may have to be a backup or someone else probably will give him a chance.

The guy was supposed to be a leader. He put his team in harm's way. Like it or not, that's football talk.

Weird you bring that up but nothing in Herbert or Darnold's closet like ever.
Troll.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: marty

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

While this post by Brad is true since Cousins, is was not true when Cousins last played in Minnesota.

Cousins started out slow in his playoff game against the Giants, probably could have used more check downs and outlets. When he checked down on the final play, he just needed to either checkdown a lot sooner (Brady sometimes did that, and the WR or TE would convert the long 3rd or 4th down), or made the better choice and tried to hit JJ for the 1st down.

It goes without saying O'Connell's game planning hasn't been effective and lacks creativity. Whatever his game plan was Monday the Bill's defense was ready for it.

Game planning isn’t the key. It will be what he can check in and out of and blocking. That is where Kirk is best. He just knows where the ball should be thrown.

On third and 19 he'll check down, guaranteed.

I know people are going to instantly think I believe the Cousins move was a terrible move, but I don't. We were stuck in a gigantic shithole given our 6-0 start to the season and now having some of the worst quarterback play on the planet.

As long as the guy isn't the starter next season with a new contract, I'm okay with the move for the remainder of the season. I always said Cousins was the most overpaid player in the league the last time around. Now he is getting paid what he is deserved, about $650k for the rest of the season. To me, he'll always be the guy that led the Anti-Vax movement, which was as irresponsible of a move as I have ever seen by a guy making that much money. He's the RFK Jr. of the league.

IMO, the move has pretty much ended the career of Kyler Murray.

Talk about your politics somewhere else. Preferably the thread titled no one gives a shit but you thread.

Kyler's play ended his career as a starter here......odds are he won't be done. He may have to be a backup or someone else probably will give him a chance.

The guy was supposed to be a leader. He put his team in harm's way. Like it or not, that's football talk.

Weird you bring that up but nothing in Herbert or Darnold's closet like ever.
Troll.

Both Herbert or Darnold got vaccinated, recognizing that there was a killer virus circulating the globe. Is that good enough for you?

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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has o'connell's playbook changed since kirk cousins ran the offense three years ago?...maybe, just a little...i don't think cousins needs more than a refresher course...he'll be ready this sunday....

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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has o'connell's playbook changed since kirk cousins ran the offense three years ago?...maybe, just a little...i don't think cousins needs more than a refresher course...he'll be ready this sunday....

He's already said he will try to be more instinctive rather than overthinking things. Which suggests he won't be fully ready.

And whether he can be 'instinctive' is a questionmark. He's not exactly a seat-of-the-pants guy.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: nfrosty

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ORIGINAL: marty

Just start by bringing in an offensive coordinator. O'Connell is not competent.

It's the same offense he has been running (poorly) for the past three years. Long, developing plays that are hard to run with poor protection. He's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and appears to be too stubborn to change.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a slot receiver catch a ball over the middle for a pass. There is almost no creativity. We have no identity.

While this post by Brad is true since Cousins, is was not true when Cousins last played in Minnesota.

Cousins started out slow in his playoff game against the Giants, probably could have used more check downs and outlets. When he checked down on the final play, he just needed to either checkdown a lot sooner (Brady sometimes did that, and the WR or TE would convert the long 3rd or 4th down), or made the better choice and tried to hit JJ for the 1st down.

It goes without saying O'Connell's game planning hasn't been effective and lacks creativity. Whatever his game plan was Monday the Bill's defense was ready for it.

Game planning isn’t the key. It will be what he can check in and out of and blocking. That is where Kirk is best. He just knows where the ball should be thrown.

On third and 19 he'll check down, guaranteed.

I know people are going to instantly think I believe the Cousins move was a terrible move, but I don't. We were stuck in a gigantic shithole given our 6-0 start to the season and now having some of the worst quarterback play on the planet.

As long as the guy isn't the starter next season with a new contract, I'm okay with the move for the remainder of the season. I always said Cousins was the most overpaid player in the league the last time around. Now he is getting paid what he is deserved, about $650k for the rest of the season. To me, he'll always be the guy that led the Anti-Vax movement, which was as irresponsible of a move as I have ever seen by a guy making that much money. He's the RFK Jr. of the league.

IMO, the move has pretty much ended the career of Kyler Murray.

Talk about your politics somewhere else. Preferably the thread titled no one gives a shit but you thread.

Kyler's play ended his career as a starter here......odds are he won't be done. He may have to be a backup or someone else probably will give him a chance.

The guy was supposed to be a leader. He put his team in harm's way. Like it or not, that's football talk.

Weird you bring that up but nothing in Herbert or Darnold's closet like ever.
Troll.

Both Herbert or Darnold got vaccinated, recognizing that there was a killer virus circulating the globe. Is that good enough for you?

Same applies to you:
Are you perfect?
Are your political choices perfect?
Are your life choices perfect?

Create a different thread named "No one gives a shit about it but Dan and Brad H".

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

I know people are going to instantly think I believe the Cousins move was a terrible move, but I don't. We were stuck in a gigantic shithole given our 6-0 start to the season and now having some of the worst quarterback play on the planet.

As long as the guy isn't the starter next season with a new contract, I'm okay with the move for the remainder of the season. I always said Cousins was the most overpaid player in the league the last time around. Now he is getting paid what he is deserved, about $650k for the rest of the season.

IMO, the move has pretty much ended the career of Kyler Murray.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

This is the best Tinsley could have done. Hopefully a very late 3rd.

Kirk was the only real option out there that was an upgrade, no one else could pick up the offense on the fly in November.

He has looked good for the Raiders but there’s plenty of garbage time to boost his stats. And we’re getting the usual Kirk deer in the highlights and taking sacks. It at least makes the next 9 games watchable, hopefully keeps Jetta from checking out and brings Addison back to life. We’ll see how the D responds as well, sometimes defenses play their best when the offense struggles mightily. They tend to regress a bit when the offense actually performs better, seems counterintuitive but it seems to happen. Still you’d think this defense could help turn 3 pt lead into a three score lead in no time like week 1.

Read he has 0 sacks vs the blitz though.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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has o'connell's playbook changed since kirk cousins ran the offense three years ago?...maybe, just a little...i don't think cousins needs more than a refresher course...he'll be ready this sunday....

He's already said he will try to be more instinctive rather than overthinking things. Which suggests he won't be fully ready.

And whether he can be 'instinctive' is a questionmark. He's not exactly a seat-of-the-pants guy.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I heard someone on the radio yesterday.....the worst part wasn't drafting JJM 10th or moving up to draft JJM.
It was that Brock Bowers went 13th. Imagine a WR Corps of JJ, Addison, and Bowers right now.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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has o'connell's playbook changed since kirk cousins ran the offense three years ago?...maybe, just a little...i don't think cousins needs more than a refresher course...he'll be ready this sunday....

He's already said he will try to be more instinctive rather than overthinking things. Which suggests he won't be fully ready.

And whether he can be 'instinctive' is a questionmark. He's not exactly a seat-of-the-pants guy.

He's not, but one thing he can do that Murray, Wentz and almost every QB that we've had since Kirk left, is read a defense presnap and go through his progressions quickly.

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

This is the best Tinsley could have done. Hopefully a very late 3rd.

Kirk was the only real option out there that was an upgrade, no one else could pick up the offense on the fly in November.

He has looked good for the Raiders but there’s plenty of garbage time to boost his stats. And we’re getting the usual Kirk deer in the highlights and taking sacks. It at least makes the next 9 games watchable, hopefully keeps Jetta from checking out and brings Addison back to life. We’ll see how the D responds as well, sometimes defenses play their best when the offense struggles mightily. They tend to regress a bit when the offense actually performs better, seems counterintuitive but it seems to happen. Still you’d think this defense could help turn 3 pt lead into a three score lead in no time like week 1.

Read he has 0 sacks vs the blitz though.

That's surprising, I feel like he's taken a couple of those Kirko give up sacks in high leverage situations this season.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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has o'connell's playbook changed since kirk cousins ran the offense three years ago?...maybe, just a little...i don't think cousins needs more than a refresher course...he'll be ready this sunday....

He's already said he will try to be more instinctive rather than overthinking things. Which suggests he won't be fully ready.

And whether he can be 'instinctive' is a questionmark. He's not exactly a seat-of-the-pants guy.

He's not, but one thing he can do that Murray, Wentz and almost every QB that we've had since Kirk left, is read a defense presnap and go through his progressions quickly.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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has o'connell's playbook changed since kirk cousins ran the offense three years ago?...maybe, just a little...i don't think cousins needs more than a refresher course...he'll be ready this sunday....

He's already said he will try to be more instinctive rather than overthinking things. Which suggests he won't be fully ready.

And whether he can be 'instinctive' is a questionmark. He's not exactly a seat-of-the-pants guy.

He's not, but one thing he can do that Murray, Wentz and almost every QB that we've had since Kirk left, is read a defense presnap and go through his progressions quickly.

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I heard someone on the radio yesterday.....the worst part wasn't drafting JJM 10th or moving up to draft JJM.
It was that Brock Bowers went 13th. Imagine a WR Corps of JJ, Addison, and Bowers right now.

Bowers, like Moss, like Jeremiah Smith, like AD were those few talents that made you think are these guys top 5 at their position already while still in college.