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RE:Culpepper - 8/12/2007 4:10:39 PM   
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Yup, it seems Culp is definitely back to his old self- Culpepper entered to a standing ovation with 9:38 left in the third quarter and promptly fumbled the snap from Jeremy Newberry. Rookie Alan Branch recovered to set up a field goal by Rackers. Culpepper fumbled again on the next drive but the Raiders retained possession.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/12/2007 10:54:33 PM   
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[quote="Mark Duda"]Yup, it seems Culp is definitely back to his old self- Culpepper entered to a standing ovation with 9:38 left in the third quarter and promptly fumbled the snap from Jeremy Newberry. Rookie Alan Branch recovered to set up a field goal by Rackers. Culpepper fumbled again on the next drive but the Raiders retained possession. [/quote] I used to be a hardcore Daunte supporter. The fumbles have become unbelievable. Whether it's small hands or something else, the guy can't hang on to the ball. The Vikes front office made a great move letting him go. The injury and the upcoming 6 mil roster bonus left them with no choice. Well done. They've been proven right and the Fish look like the fools. :clap:
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RE:Culpepper - 8/13/2007 3:16:20 AM   
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[quote="Zaig"][quote="Mark Duda"]Yup, it seems Culp is definitely back to his old self- Culpepper entered to a standing ovation with 9:38 left in the third quarter and promptly fumbled the snap from Jeremy Newberry. Rookie Alan Branch recovered to set up a field goal by Rackers. Culpepper fumbled again on the next drive but the Raiders retained possession. [/quote] I used to be a hardcore Daunte supporter. The fumbles have become unbelievable. Whether it's small hands or something else, the guy can't hang on to the ball. The Vikes front office made a great move letting him go. The injury and the upcoming 6 mil roster bonus left them with no choice. Well done. They've been proven right and the Fish look like the fools. :clap:[/quote] Great post. Wish I had written it, because it applies to my feelings exactly. Loved the guy for a time, but the writing on the wall obviously took some people longer to read than others. Moving him was imo, one of the best personnel moves the franchise ever did. Not being suckered into another big contract saved this team from further agony. The fumbling problem is incredible, and any team or fan that overlooks it is plain stupid. He was a comet that burned bright shortly and flamed out. It's over. I read Clayton's take yesterday that was posted on here and my jaw dropped. I had seen some footage last week on his first action with the Raiders in practice and it looked horrific to me. I'm now wondering what I saw, because I saw a guy limping noticeably, moving gingerly and looking clumsy. John Clayton I obviously am not.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/13/2007 6:44:11 PM   
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Hey, I'll admit it...I supported Pep. I didn't want to see him go...I defended him when others wanted him gone. Now, I am glad he is gone. We got all of Pep's great years and now it appears that those were largely the result of having a Randy Moss to throw the ball to. Pep hasn't been even an Average QB since Moss went away.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/14/2007 12:24:30 AM   
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Daunte was exciting and extremely accomplished for a couple years but I've stated since last year he is DONE. So is Brad Johnson.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/14/2007 10:31:37 PM   
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I said it before and I'll say it again..........this was an absolute awful decision by Culpepper. That OL is an absolute sieve, and he will get killed. It's sad to watch this guy play now.......it's almost like watching the keystone cops with those fumbles. For his sake, I really wish he would just shut things down.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/14/2007 10:49:16 PM   
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It's like going to a show and expecting this: and getting this:
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RE:Culpepper - 8/15/2007 4:42:07 AM   
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:headbang: Supposedly their reunion tour is on again!
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RE:Culpepper - 8/15/2007 4:00:04 PM   
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For this week. That tour is turning in to a light bulb. On again, off again, on again, off again......
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RE:Culpepper - 8/15/2007 7:06:22 PM   
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I wonder Eddie wrote that check for... paying back a roadie for stealing his geritol or something??
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RE:Culpepper - 8/15/2007 8:14:24 PM   
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check the date on the check.... Geritol :roll:
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RE:Culpepper - 8/15/2007 10:09:52 PM   
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Yeah, I saw that after I posted.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 1:49:57 AM   
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[quote="Trekgeekscott"]Hey, I'll admit it...I supported Pep. I didn't want to see him go...I defended him when others wanted him gone. Now, I am glad he is gone. We got all of Pep's great years and now it appears that those were largely the result of having a Randy Moss to throw the ball to. Pep hasn't been even an Average QB since Moss went away.[/quote] Scott, We defintiely saw the best that Culpepper had to offer(2 probowls and 2 playoff wins). It really is sad to watch him play these days. The guy is admittedly healthy and states when healthy he is an ELITE PLAYER. Not only do I think the guy can't perform on the field, I think he is somewhat delusional.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 4:11:10 AM   
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Jude, I'm thinking of making you moderator of the Culpepper thread. :lol:
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 3:36:35 PM   
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New Raider Culpepper looks to mend career By Jarrett Bell, USA TODAY NAPA, Calif. — Daunte Culpepper is in rehab now, but as the 30-year-old quarterback breezes past the outdoor weight room at the Oakland Raiders' training camp, this is not so much about his surgically repaired left knee. The knee appears fine. Culpepper, moving well enough, does not even wear a brace. Now his mission is to rehabilitate his career. In Culpepper's last full season, 2004, he passed for an NFL-high 4,717 yards and franchise-record 39 touchdowns for the Minnesota Vikings. If not for Peyton Manning's record-breaking 49 TDs, Culpepper likely would have been the league's MVP that year. Since then, an avalanche of disaster, turmoil and heartache has smothered Culpepper. The swoon started with three torn knee ligaments in 2005, wiping out Culpepper's final nine games. Traded to the Miami Dolphins in 2006, he was sacked 21 times in the first four games then missed the final 12 contests due to shoulder and knee injuries. The Dolphins cut him in June. He is trying to regroup with a team that has had a revolving door at quarterback in recent years, has a new coach in Lane Kiffin installing a new system, and has yet to sign JaMarcus Russell, the passer drafted No. 1 overall in April. FIND MORE STORIES IN: NFL | Miami Dolphins | Minnesota Vikings | Arizona Cardinals | Daunte Culpepper | Jamarcus Russell | Offensive coordinator | Culpepper | Raider "All I want is an opportunity," says Culpepper, signed a week into camp as talks between the Raiders and Russell stalled. "Then the rest is on me. I feel like I'm still a starter in this league. When that happens, who knows? But I know I have a lot to contribute." Culpepper, with three Pro Bowls on his resume, would not be offended if you called him a visiting quarterback. His arrangement is like a short-term lease, with Russell pegged as the Raiders' future quarterback. After collecting $8 million from the Dolphins during his 16-month tour, Culpepper signed a one-year contract with the Raiders that, according to The Oakland Tribune, could be worth $3.2 million, with $750,000 guaranteed. He's gambling on himself to command another big payday down the road. "I wanted to be able to show myself for one year," said Culpepper, who drew interest from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jacksonville Jaguars — teams that had already committed to starters for this season. "I'm just glad I was able to come to an agreement with the Raiders for what I was looking for. "This situation was good because No. 1, I can help the team now. It's also good because they drafted their quarterback of the future and I think I have a lot to offer any quarterback coming into the league, some type of tutelage. Maybe I can help him. And if given the opportunity to play, I can help myself and at the end of the year, whatever happens, happens." Culpepper is battling Josh McCown and Andrew Walter for the starting job. Although Culpepper, a ninth-year pro, has a distinct edge in experience with 84 career starts, he is in a catch-up mode. "It reminds me of the offense I had in college," said Culpepper, who set an NCAA single-season completion percentage record (73.6%) at Central Florida. "Get the ball out fast. Quick reads. I'm versatile. I can adjust to whatever situation or offense I'm in." Culpepper had an inauspicious start in Saturday night's preseason opener against the Arizona Cardinals. Coming off the bench in the third quarter, he fumbled the exchange on his first snap. On the next series, he fumbled while getting sacked. Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp acknowledges that rust was a factor. "That's a fair assessment," Knapp said. "Not to mention that he's probably on information overload right now. You come into camp a week late. Usually I'm lucky enough to have a quarterback since March like with Andrew, to teach the basics, the formations and the motions. So it's a big learning curve for a guy coming in this late." Culpepper shook off his early mishaps Saturday to direct two fourth-quarter field goal drives. Said Knapp, "He overcame some adversity." Knapp expects the three quarterbacks will share time evenly again in Saturday's exhibition against the San Francisco 49ers. "I'll work to be the starter," Culpepper says. "But there is no timeline on my expectations. I've got to learn this offense. Every day, I feel like I'm getting better." The knee that was such a concern last summer isn't an issue. He says the ligaments are stable and insists he didn't try to rush back too soon last season. He underwent arthroscopic surgery on the same knee last year, but maintains that the procedure was to shave cartilage and was unrelated to the previous injury. "It was a totally different injury," he says. "A lot of people don't understand that. It feels a lot better now." So does his psyche. Culpepper's final weeks with the Dolphins were emotionally draining. New Dolphins coach Cam Cameron opted for Trent Green as his quarterback, and when Culpepper refused to restructure his contract to help facilitate a trade, hardball tactics ensued. The team escorted him off the field in a June minicamp. "In an ideal situation, it would have been better for me to get released earlier," he said. "But the way it happened, it happened. It was frustrating, but I know how this business is sometimes. All I'm doing now is looking forward. I'm in a better situation now."
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 6:37:43 PM   
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[quote="Duane Sampson"]Jude, I'm thinking of making you moderator of the Culpepper thread. :lol:[/quote] Thanks Sammy! ;) :lol: I know, I know. Don't bag on the guy anymore. Hasn't he had ENOUGH? I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how many Viking games where my veins in my forehead nearly burst everytime the guy fumbled away our chance at victory. I know it is just a game, but that guy for all the good he had, he had equal parts of disaster. :bang: Hence my forming saying.. Hot and Cold I will step down now. Rant over.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 7:27:33 PM   
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Here ya go, Jude!
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 7:48:54 PM   
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AHHHHH, perfect. Look at that Card DB already reading his eyes and jumping that route for an INT :lol:
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 8:16:10 PM   
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Sammy, Perfect! Jeff, :nodding:
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 8:53:43 PM   
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[quote="Purpleporter"][quote="Duane Sampson"]Jude, I'm thinking of making you moderator of the Culpepper thread. :lol:[/quote] Thanks Sammy! ;) :lol: I know, I know. Don't bag on the guy anymore. Hasn't he had ENOUGH? I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how many Viking games where my veins in my forehead nearly burst everytime the guy fumbled away our chance at victory. I know it is just a game, but that guy for all the good he had, he had equal parts of disaster. :bang: Hence my forming saying.. Hot and Cold I will step down now. Rant over.[/quote] I was ready to move on from Daunte as well, they got rid of him at perhaps the perfect time, pretty much just like Moss. But I do have a question. Now that you don't have to worry about Daunte fumbling away victories, are you happier with the Childress era where lack of victories are pretty much assured? IOW - was having a team that wins 9-12 games and be in the hunt but have Daunte play up and down worse for your veins than a team where 6 wins is a good season?
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RE:Culpepper - 8/16/2007 10:27:39 PM   
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[quote="Easy E"][quote="Purpleporter"][quote="Duane Sampson"]Jude, I'm thinking of making you moderator of the Culpepper thread. :lol:[/quote] Thanks Sammy! ;) :lol: I know, I know. Don't bag on the guy anymore. Hasn't he had ENOUGH? I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how many Viking games where my veins in my forehead nearly burst everytime the guy fumbled away our chance at victory. I know it is just a game, but that guy for all the good he had, he had equal parts of disaster. :bang: Hence my forming saying.. Hot and Cold I will step down now. Rant over.[/quote] I was ready to move on from Daunte as well, they got rid of him at perhaps the perfect time, pretty much just like Moss. But I do have a question. Now that you don't have to worry about Daunte fumbling away victories, are you happier with the Childress era where lack of victories are pretty much assured? IOW - was having a team that wins 9-12 games and be in the hunt but have Daunte play up and down worse for your veins than a team where 6 wins is a good season?[/quote] Hi EasyE Well of course the lack of any offense last year with Childress at the controls was indeed frustrating, but in a very different way. I guess thus far a "Childress" led offense is yet another way for the VIKINGS not to get to that NEXT LEVEL. Losing can come in many different methods and for me, the whole point of a season is to do well in the playoffs. I do give Daunte credit for a couple of victories here. I really loved the VICTORY against the Packers. Double Sweet!! However, outside of those times, Daunte was in most cases easlily figured out by an opposing defense. "Take away Randy and apply the blitz in heavy doses" seemed to work with perfection against Mr. Culpepper. If memory serves, I think the best a Daunte led team won ELEVEN GAMES with Denny Green as coach...But your point is taken. Basically, I was fooled more with Daunte than I am with Childress. With Childress, sadly everyone knew what to expect. With Daunte, he showed excellence followed by incompetence. Hopefully, Childress with a SECOND BITE at the APPLE will improve. I have the purple shades on currently, but will remove them, if we are out of the playoff hunt.
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RE:Culpepper - 8/18/2007 7:00:10 AM   
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[quote="Jeff Jesser"]AHHHHH, perfect. Look at that Card DB already reading his eyes and jumping that route for an INT :lol:[/quote] He might be a little late if he's reading his eyes AFTER the pass has left his hand. I'm thinking he should be reading the ball...
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RE:Culpepper - 8/18/2007 7:02:30 AM   
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[quote="Purpleporter"][quote="Duane Sampson"]Jude, I'm thinking of making you moderator of the Culpepper thread. :lol:[/quote] Thanks Sammy! ;) :lol: I know, I know. Don't bag on the guy anymore. Hasn't he had ENOUGH? I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how many Viking games where my veins in my forehead nearly burst everytime the guy fumbled away our chance at victory. I know it is just a game, but that guy for all the good he had, he had equal parts of disaster. :bang: Hence my forming saying.. Hot and Cold [/quote] Yah, it's unfortunate, but all women go thru that sooner or later...
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RE:Culpepper - 8/18/2007 7:17:32 PM   
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[quote="thebigo"][quote="Purpleporter"][quote="Duane Sampson"]Jude, I'm thinking of making you moderator of the Culpepper thread. :lol:[/quote] Thanks Sammy! ;) :lol: I know, I know. Don't bag on the guy anymore. Hasn't he had ENOUGH? I'm sorry, but I can't tell you how many Viking games where my veins in my forehead nearly burst everytime the guy fumbled away our chance at victory. I know it is just a game, but that guy for all the good he had, he had equal parts of disaster. :bang: Hence my forming saying.. Hot and Cold [/quote] Yah, it's unfortunate, but all women go thru that sooner or later...[/quote] Good one! :nodding: Coupled with death and taxes right? No one gets out alive. Just ask Vick's poor little victims. So sad!!
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RE:Culpepper - 8/21/2007 10:36:35 PM   
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[quote="Duane Sampson"]Davis sees some Plunkett in Culpepper By DAVID WHITE San Francisco Chronicle Thursday, August 02, 2007 Raiders owner Al Davis took one look at Daunte Culpepper, and into the time machine he flew, all the way to 1980 when he said his Oakland team was picked to finish last and Jim Plunkett was in dire need of reclamation. "The only thing I can say about Culpepper right now is he takes me back several years," Davis said Wednesday. "He had great years, just never had a chance. Jim Plunkett never had a chance where he was. That was unfair." Plunkett came off the bench and led the Raiders to a Super Bowl victory that year and won the game's MVP award. What Davis would give for Culpepper to capture a sliver of that comeback success this season, especially in the shadow of the worst four-year stretch in franchise history. Granted, the Raiders are more than one player away from turning around their program. By signing Culpepper to a one-year contract worth $3.2 million, they showed they are willing to try anything at this point -- even if it means bringing in a quarterback who's had two major knee surgeries in less than two years. "Any time you're a great competitor and people doubt you, its absolute fuel to overcome whatever they're saying or shut them up in a sense," Culpepper said. Well, here's his chance and if it works, Davis looks like a genius circa 1980 again. To think, none of this likely would have happened if No. 1 overall draft pick JaMarcus Russell -- often described as a young Culpepper -- was signed and in camp by now. The LSU quarterback is still sitting out, Davis said, because his agents wants all the guaranteed money (up to $30 million) to be an option bonus. The Raiders want nothing to do with that after a recent grievance ruling deemed option bonuses to be nonrefundable in many cases. "I will not do that," Davis said. He will, however, give a one-year deal to a veteran quarterback whose last healthy season was in 2004, when Culpepper threw for 4,717 yards and 39 touchdowns with Randy Moss and the Minnesota Vikings. The Raiders haven't had those sorts of quarterback numbers since Rich Gannon was the league MVP in 2002, and yes, Culpepper also reminds Davis of Gannon. "We've always had a lot of quarterbacks around," Davis said. "In recent years, we stopped that. And then, the minute somebody gets hurt, we've found ourselves in trouble. Daunte was a great talent. Whether he can get it back or not, it's worth the chance." That was the case in 2003 and '04, when Gannon was lost for each season with injuries. Same thing last year, when Aaron Brooks was hurt in the second game and the Raiders offense never got going. Culpepper said all is well with his knee, and that he has no intention to sit behind Russell, Josh McCown or Andrew Walter on the depth chart. He took about five snaps in 11-on-11 drills Wednesday morning, throwing two passes and fumbling a snap exchange. Coach Lane Kiffin said Culpepper would be worked in slowly while he learns the new playbook, and that he eventually will get equal snaps with Walter and McCown. That's called getting a chance, something the Dolphins weren't willing to offer after Culpepper passed a physical in the offseason. They traded for former Chiefs quarterback Trent Green and released Culpepper two weeks ago. That's another Davis reminder of Plunkett, who was discarded by the 49ers before he joined the Raiders. "It's very refreshing to know that I got a chance to come in and play and contribute to a great team," Culpepper said. "Coach Kiffin and his staff are very, very keen on being successful and they let me know that off the top." All this has Davis smiling, ready to relive the past all over again. "Lane made the final decision," Davis said, "but I wanted it to happen. I like to take chances like that." (E-mail David White at dwhite@sfchronicle.com.) [/quote] Make all the fun of Davis all you want, me for that matter. I made this comparison about 3 years back and John Childress agreed that there were definate potential parallels to Plunkett and Culpepper. It is ironic that his 2nd chance is with Oakland(I don't consider last year anything but rehab and a psycho coach (Sabin)telling him he was ready). Culpepper would look good in purple again, won't happen, but I don't believe he was only good because of Moss, just as I don't believe Moss needed only Duante. Moss needed to be on team that could hold the opponent to less than 30 points or 400 yards a game. Just like last night Jaws tried to compare Grossman to Manning based on first 23 starts (winning percentage, tds and ints) of a career. One thing he was lacking in his analysis was defense, now granted that doesn't always affect ints, it contributes to the parameters of the situation. Manning had no defense to start his career and Grossman has been overly blessed. The same could be said for Culpepper and Moss. Judi, (based on comment you quoted from me a couple weeks back) Culpepper still does better representing himself than the agent he formally had. Why don't you just get over this seemingly warped obsession you have with him. It is so love/hate. Like a scorned woman if you will. Did he really hurt your feelings that much by not being able to win a Super bowl on offense alone? Would you despise Marino this much if you were a former phins fan?
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