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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/18/2011 10:42:06 AM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/18/2011 10:51:50 AM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/18/2011 11:39:12 AM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/18/2011 1:51:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't really follow bball much (just the Gophers actually) so my opinion doesn't count for much but they look like terrible shooters.   All of them.  
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/18/2011 2:59:01 PM   
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I don't really follow bball much (just the Gophers actually) so my opinion doesn't count for much but they look like terrible shooters.   All of them.  


Perhaps the two best shooters are Osenieks and Sampson. That's never a good sign. It's not like this team is completely flawed, but three point shooting, point guard play, and three point defense are huge question marks. We have some guards who could very well step up the first two, and Austin Hollins and Williams SHOULD be able to cover a hot hand on the perimeter. We'll see.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/23/2011 4:23:07 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/23/2011 5:14:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lots of new players, right? Maybe they can improve over the course of the season. Sampson and Mbakwe are returning starters. Am I missing any other returning starter(s)?

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/23/2011 7:38:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Williams is a returning [mostly] starter at SF. The guards so far have be the Hollins brothers* who are a freshman and sophomore with no starting experience.


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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/24/2011 8:26:20 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/24/2011 8:55:19 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/25/2011 11:12:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Seems like every team Minn plays have players that can knock down the 3 even with a hand in their face, while the Gophers can't hit them to save their soul? Doesn't Tubby recruit shooters?

This team needs to make better passes. Hopefully it improves to make life easier on them

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/25/2011 5:52:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		The big question: Welch has proven to be an excellent closer. At some point, should he be a starter? Welch had a game-high 17 (easily his best as a Gopher). Andre Hollins added 16 points in just 19 minutes as he again battled foul trouble.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/642866-julian-welch-and-andre-hollins-provide-bright-spots-for-gopher-fans-in-march

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 11/25/2011 5:54:43 PM >

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/25/2011 11:54:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good win but this team was unprepared and lacking effort in the first half. Defense tightened up in the second half, but if it wasn't for some easy transition points, we would have lost to a lesser team.
Our guard play in the half court set is awful. We don't even feed our own beast. Lots of work to do.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 7:58:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are the winning of these games in the 2nd half a function of greater depth? Tubby certainly is playing a lot of players.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 8:22:30 AM   
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Are the winning of these games in the 2nd half a function of greater depth? Tubby certainly is playing a lot of players.


I think so. Their opponents seem very winded by the end.

Part of it, as well, is that Tubby is still one of the x's and o's coaches in the game. His coaching is questioned because he doesn't have the guards he needs (an injured Sampson doesn't help, either) but these comebacks come down to coaching, too.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 9:15:43 AM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 12:12:55 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 1:48:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's because they're not that good! The key to their season appears to depend on the development of their guard play.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 3:17:35 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 4:05:24 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/26/2011 6:13:14 PM   
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What guard play???


Right now, my hopes are with Julian Welch and Andre Hollins. It's not a lot to shout about now, but my hope is that they can develop, especially since they both just joined the team.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/27/2011 9:34:59 PM   
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Ugh -- why does it always have to happen to this team? The one guy on the team you COULDN'T afford to lose, and he goes down. Ugh.
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/27/2011 9:51:05 PM   
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no way ..... lost Mbakwe?
Thats a death blow, from what I've seen of this team so far.
Just awful.

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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/27/2011 9:54:09 PM   
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RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) - 11/27/2011 9:58:10 PM   
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At one time I was as big as Goph BB fan as there was... but I've really strayed, with hockey taking up all my winter time.
That was a very succesful and proud program for many years.
Sure seems cursed lately tho. Good luck to you all, on turning it around.
Its definitely an important program for the U.  

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