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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 8:53:47 AM   
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I can’t find any silver lining in a game where they gave up big plays
And looked worse than a high school team on those plays

I thought Ohio State looked like a very overrated team. That defense is terrible.

If the refs actually had the guts to call pass interference, the Gophers would have piled up a lot more points. They grab arms like no other team. The worst was when the corner grabbed Jackson's right arm with his left hand - Jackson pulled free - grabbed it again with his right hand and Jackson pulled free - finally yanked it down with his left hand again leaving Jackson to attempt a one handed catch while falling backwards. After the play, the dbag gets up taunting Jackson. Thankfully at this point the ref stepped in and gave him a stern talking to.

Been watching Ohio State get calls against the Gophers for 50 years. Same with Michigan.

The one guy knocked out our receiver with the crown of his helmet. No call.

Perhaps the only thing worse was the broadcast from Fox itself. At one point they had the score 41-24 when the score was actually 38-24. I understand you want to pump up Minnesota for the game being close in the third quarter, but how about some good and honest reporting. They kept saying the Gophers look like a really good team. I kept saying to myself, they look like a .500 team (at-best). And I'm a Gopher fan. I don't care who you are playing, if you give up nearly 500 yards in under 22 minutes you aren't very competitive on one side of the ball.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 9:07:18 AM   
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Not impressed

All I could think of watching the U defense get shredded was

Sieve, Sieve

If that games in Columbus
Score is worse

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 9:09:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can college coaches appeal to the league after a game the way NFL coaches can? I don't mean to overturn it or anything. I'm talking about appealing specific plays where calls from the refs were a problem.

Remember when Mike Tice appealed the famous game against Green Bay where the refs had to admit later that they made nine bad calls that hurt the Vikings, eight of which came in the fourth quarter when the Packers *amazingly* came from behind to win?

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 9:12:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		When was the last time Minnesota actually produced a great defensive lineman? Carl Eller?

Ra'Sheed Hageman turned out to be a bust and he's the only guy I can even think of that was supposed to be great in the past 2-3 decades.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 9:17:09 AM   
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You mentioned DE

What about QB

Morgan is average at best

And then what

Flecks not developed much outside running backs and WR he inherited
Neanderthal offense with a porous defense

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 9:17:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just did some homework. Take away Hageman, and the last time the Gophers had a defensive lineman taken in the first three rounds was Keith Simons in 1973. Previous to that you have to go to Ray Parson in 1970 and Carl Eller in 1964.

Heck, East Mississippi CC had four former defensive linemen playing in the NFL a year ago (Denico Autry, Jarran Reed, Za'Darius Smith and DJ Jones).

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 10:49:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		The opening and subsequent KO showed me the mentality of the team. Dude fair caught it at about the 10 with no OSU players within 10 yards of him. Timid.

I give Fleck credit for waking them up with the 4th down call but it's 2 different continents in terms of big play ability.
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 10:58:41 AM   
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The opening and subsequent KO showed me the mentality of the team. Dude fair caught it at about the 10 with no OSU players within 10 yards of him. Timid.

I give Fleck credit for waking them up with the 4th down call but it's 2 different continents in terms of big play ability.

I didn't help that Olave didn't have a defender within 15 yards of him on his final touchdown. Nothing like leaving their top player completely uncovered. Sound strategy.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 11:23:56 AM   
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The opening and subsequent KO showed me the mentality of the team. Dude fair caught it at about the 10 with no OSU players within 10 yards of him. Timid.

I give Fleck credit for waking them up with the 4th down call but it's 2 different continents in terms of big play ability.

I didn't help that Olave didn't have a defender within 15 yards of him on his final touchdown. Nothing like leaving their top player completely uncovered. Sound strategy.

I think that was more blown assignment than strategy.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 11:37:58 AM   
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The opening and subsequent KO showed me the mentality of the team. Dude fair caught it at about the 10 with no OSU players within 10 yards of him. Timid.

I give Fleck credit for waking them up with the 4th down call but it's 2 different continents in terms of big play ability.


Did they return any kicks?

Seems like a lame strategy

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/3/2021 7:24:45 PM   
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Status: online 		They gave a good effort. But giving up all those big plays is concerning. Yes I know it was Ohio State blah blah, but missed tackles, poor coverage, blown assignments etc. would have been a problem vs Bowling Green.
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/4/2021 1:34:42 PM   
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/4/2021 10:52:34 PM   
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SEC=Over rated

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/5/2021 12:10:57 PM   
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The opening and subsequent KO showed me the mentality of the team. Dude fair caught it at about the 10 with no OSU players within 10 yards of him. Timid.

I give Fleck credit for waking them up with the 4th down call but it's 2 different continents in terms of big play ability.


Did they return any kicks?

Seems like a lame strategy



Yup. Off the top of my head the next 2. It did seem like they were instructed to do it. It seemed like Fleck realized it and pulled that strategy with the 4th down call.
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/6/2021 10:14:49 AM   
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/6/2021 10:36:18 AM   
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Status: online 		Mo will still have a year of eligibility left next year. I hope he takes it but I wouldn’t blame him a bit if he skips it to not risk another injury.

The gophers have some depth at RB. And with their OL the running game will be okay. But okay is a step down from being probably top 5 in the nation running game.
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/6/2021 10:50:19 AM  1 votes
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LSU getting spanked bY unranked UCLA..

SEC=Over rated

Really??

Alabama and Georgia look heads and shoulders above everyone.
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/6/2021 3:04:31 PM   
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/6/2021 3:30:08 PM   
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Georgia with their 3 offensive points?

How often do you see a Clemson offense totally dominated?
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/6/2021 10:50:38 PM   
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Can college coaches appeal to the league after a game the way NFL coaches can? I don't mean to overturn it or anything. I'm talking about appealing specific plays where calls from the refs were a problem.



I got the answer to my question. Yes, they can, and yes they do:

https://www.startribune.com/calls-officials-didnt-make-have-gophers-waiting-for-big-tens-explanation/600094510/

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/8/2021 9:11:35 AM   
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Can college coaches appeal to the league after a game the way NFL coaches can? I don't mean to overturn it or anything. I'm talking about appealing specific plays where calls from the refs were a problem.



I got the answer to my question. Yes, they can, and yes they do:

https://www.startribune.com/calls-officials-didnt-make-have-gophers-waiting-for-big-tens-explanation/600094510/

And the reply from the Big Ten? Oh, whoops! Looks like that was targeting. Our bad...

Too late to do anything about the game, but you would think the Big Ten would still punish the players in accordance with their targeting rules. Nah, they play for THE Ohio State University and they are the only reason anyone takes this conference seriously.

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/8/2021 11:15:13 AM   
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Georgia with their 3 offensive points?

How often do you see a Clemson offense totally dominated?


How often do you see a Georgia offense totally dominated?
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RE: Gopher Football - 9/8/2021 11:28:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Gophers football program received an empty apology from the Big Ten this week.

Minnesota sent the conference office video of the helmet-to-helmet hit by Ohio State safety Latham Ransom that sent U receiver Mike Brown-Stephens face first to the turf, where he stayed incapacitated while the Buckeyes pounced on his fumble late in the second half of a 45-31 loss at Huntington Bank Stadium.

Ransom was not called for targeting, which the Big Ten acknowledged was a mistake, Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said Tuesday.

"Basically here's the explanation: 'I'm sorry,' " Fleck said on his KFAN radio show. "And that's it. That's basically what it is."

"I was told that they did review the targeting and didn't find (during the game) that it was targeting," he added. "But when you turn it in, they say it's targeting. It's a matter of judgement."

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/9/2021 7:18:48 PM   
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The Gophers football program received an empty apology from the Big Ten this week.

Minnesota sent the conference office video of the helmet-to-helmet hit by Ohio State safety Latham Ransom that sent U receiver Mike Brown-Stephens face first to the turf, where he stayed incapacitated while the Buckeyes pounced on his fumble late in the second half of a 45-31 loss at Huntington Bank Stadium.

Ransom was not called for targeting, which the Big Ten acknowledged was a mistake, Gophers coach P.J. Fleck said Tuesday.

"Basically here's the explanation: 'I'm sorry,' " Fleck said on his KFAN radio show. "And that's it. That's basically what it is."

"I was told that they did review the targeting and didn't find (during the game) that it was targeting," he added. "But when you turn it in, they say it's targeting. It's a matter of judgement."


It seems the Big 10’s whole sending in videos thing is just a tool to critique officiating. There doesn’t seem to be any punitive authority to it. They can just say “Yes the refs blew that one. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.”

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RE: Gopher Football - 9/11/2021 8:28:53 PM   
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