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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/26/2008 7:12:26 PM   
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I can't wait to see Monte's D at Tenn.  I know, as a whole, they've been down lately but he'll have athletes if nothing else. 
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/27/2008 10:56:31 AM   
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December 22 - Chicago Sun-Times:

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"Kyle Orton will make his 32nd career start tonight against the Green Bay Packers, a short sample for most quarterbacks and a lifetime for a Bear. That will move him one start ahead of Rex Grossman, an accomplishment in itself because in the last 25 seasons, only Jim McMahon, Jim Harbaugh and Erik Kramer have made more starts for the team. That's what happens when a different guy is climbing out of the clown car every few weeks for the better part of a decade."



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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/27/2008 10:48:52 PM   
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Great stuff Sammy.
That's my kind of writing.


Beware Green bay, the Lions are claiming their meeting Sunday as "their Super Bowl".
(like it would matter if it was?)
The Lions are 1-22 since the middle of last season and haven't won since Dec. 23, 2007, when they beat Kansas City.
And sometimes we think we have issues.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 11:37:16 AM   
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REPORT: FAVRE DOESN’T LIKE PLAYING FOR MANGINI
Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2008, 12:11 p.m.
Apart from a nagging shoulder injury that has gotten worse over the past few weeks, a major factor that will influence whether quarterback Brett Favre will return to the Jets in 2009 is whether and to what extent he’s happy.
Per FOX’s Jay Glazer, Favre isn’t happy playing for coach Eric Mangini.
The problem?  In Green Bay, Favre had his own set of rules.  In New York, Favre is treated like everyone else.
He regularly is called to the “principal’s office” to answer questions about the basis for Favre’s in-game decisions.  Also, Mangini has called Favre out in front of the team.
So if Favre plays next year, it apparently won’t be for the Jets.




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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 11:38:36 AM   
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FAREWELL TO FAVRE?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2008, 10:49 a.m.
It’s Week Seventeen, so that means — as it has for each of the last five or six years — that we could be witnessing the final regular-season game of quarterback Brett Favre’s career.
Regardless of whether the Jets qualify for the playoffs (they need a win over Miami and help), Favre likely won’t be back in New York next season.
Unless he’s willing to cut dramatically his $13 million base salary for 2009.
Even if the Jets can finagle the cap space to fit Favre’s current salary under the annual spending limit, there’s a real question as to whether he’s worth that much money.
And so, if he won’t take a pay cut, the Jets might have to cut Favre before the start of the 2009 league year in order to have the cash available to pursue a free agent signal-caller.
We still don’t rule out a final Favre season, with another team.  As a guy who is used to getting his way, we think that Favre could get sufficiently motivated to play in 2009 if he were to get his chance to play for the Vikings.
So if the Vikings don’t make it to the playoffs, we still think there’s a strong possibility that Favre will get his wish, one year after he made it known that he wants to play for a team that competes directly with the Packers.
Before any of you start filling up the comments with reminders of the provision that jacks up the price tag of the Favre trade if he ends up in Minnesota, that provision applies only if the Jets trade Favre to a team in the NFC North.  If the Jets release Favre, he can sign with any team, at no consequence to the Jets. 
As of right now, it wouldn’t shock us at all if the Jets and Favre part ways, and if he ultimately is wearing purple when the next football season starts.




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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 11:41:33 AM   
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LIONS PLAN TO PARTY, WIN OR LOSE?
Posted by Mike Florio on December 27, 2008, 5:56 p.m.
With history certain to be made on Sunday, either if the Lions lose at Green Bay and fall to 0-16 or if the Packers stumble at Lambeau and spark riot conditions in Wisconsin, the Lions are viewing Sunday’s game as their own personal Super Bowl.
And Detroit cornerback Travis Fisher has made an unusual promise that hinges on the latter outcome. 
“If we win, I ain’t catching the plane back home,” Fisher said, per the Associated Press.  “I’ll walk back to Detroit.”  (He reportedly was laughing.  Which is far better than the alternative of crying.)
But if Fisher walks from Green Bay to Detroit, he’d miss out on the party that apparently has been scheduled, win or lose, by some members of the team.
A Facebook posting touts the event:  “On Sunday, December 28th, all of the Detroit Lions will converge on Downtown Detroit’s very own, Esko Lounge to celebrate an end to their season.  This will be an upscale event and will be hosted by starting safety, Dwight Smith, and Gosder Cherilus, a 2008 1st Round draft pick.”
The posting lists some of the players who’ll be present.  “Confirmed Lions in attendance include:  Calvin Johnson,Chris Roberson, Daunte Culpepper, Rudi Johnson, Ernie Sims, and Kevin Smith, just to name a few.  In addition, players from other NFL teams, the Detroit Pistons, and Tigers have also been invited.”
The Facebook posting also includes an image of the official flyer, which touts the event as “The Grand Finale.”


stairwell and love boat converge for the mother of all parties

cant wait to see the outcome of that bash


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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 12:15:09 PM   
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If I ran a club I would ask the Lions NOT to come!

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 3:22:04 PM   
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Congrats detroit lions, on an unbreakable record



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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 4:16:06 PM   
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Jerry Jones can lie until his face pins fall off, but there is NO WAY he doesn't fire at least a half-dozen people if the Cowboys fail to advance.
What a crock, "Phillips is safe".
No way. There will be a closet-cleaning from hell there if that team fails.
It's "what have you done for me TODAY" in this league right now.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 8:32:14 PM   
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In the NFC, the Giants are the only team that made it back to the playoffs this year: 

2008 Playoffs:
1) Dallas
2) Green Bay
3) Seattle
4) Tampa Bay
5) NY Giants
6) Washington

2009 Playoffs:
1) NY Giants
2) Carolina
3) Minnesota
4) Arizona
5) Atlanta
6) Philly
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 9:00:13 PM   
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Singletary officially offered the head coaching job in San Fran after the game today.
Crennel unofficially gone in Cleveland, as is their GM.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 9:03:04 PM   
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Crennel unofficially gone in Cleveland, as is their GM.


Ended the year on a 24 quarter streak without an offensive TD.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 9:04:25 PM   
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Romeo/Romo
No love for those two right now. 
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 9:56:21 PM   
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How 'bout them Cowboys!

Tony Romo came up way short in another crucial game, dropping his record to 5-8 in December. T.O. was a non-factor, despite six catches for 103 yards.

"They just handed us an old-fashioned butt whipping," Owens said. "I don't have all the answers, but I'd love to be part of the solution."

Team sources told ESPN's Ed Werder that there was commotion and concern in the Cowboys locker room after the game when Romo collapsed in the shower. Players called for medical staff, who brought in a stretcher, but Romo walked out on his own. Romo then did his news conference but had to be helped from the podium. Sources said Romo suffered a rib injury in the second half.
 
Drama Kings of Big D.
The saga continues.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 10:18:04 PM   
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The new Butt Farte....

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 10:27:54 PM   
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Time to cue T.O.  ....


 "That's my quarterback, man
 "He's my quarterback, man.
  "Thats my quarterback, man.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/28/2008 11:30:51 PM   
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I have said for two years

Terrell Owens is NOT the problem on that team.

The problem is overrated Romo.  He is Choking Dog II

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 1:42:01 AM   
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It is simply remarkable what Miami did.
They were 1-15 last year, pretty much Lion-esque.
In one short calendar year they go from the bottom to the top.
That's damn hard to do.
What a story.
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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 6:56:14 AM   
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It is simply remarkable what Miami did.
They were 1-15 last year, pretty much Lion-esque.
In one short calendar year they go from the bottom to the top.
That's damn hard to do.
What a story.



Exactly why I don't buy into the 3 year plan crap.

Even with Brady out, the Patriots are still better than any team in this division and Miami beat them out for the division crown.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 7:06:02 AM   
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FAVRE

I saw the highlights and he was up to his old faking self.  After his second INT he grabbed his arm like it was hurt.  What a fraud.

BRADY

I wonder if he EVER recovers his career or if he is the next Daunte in terms of not coming back fully from injury:

quote:

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has fallen behind in his recovery efforts from knee surgery and could risk missing next season if another operation is needed, NBCSports.com has reported.


Brady, who underwent surgery on Oct. 6 after tearing the ACL and MCL ligaments in his left knee in the first quarter of the team's first game of the season, had subsequent operations on the knee after it became infected.


That infection resulted in a buildup of scar tissue, which may require surgery on the knee, the Web site reported, citing an anonymous NFL source.The scar tissue also has affected Brady's ability to begin fully rehabilitating his leg, the report said, and the repaired ligaments remain loose.
Another surgery also could be needed for that condition, the Web site reported.


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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 7:49:14 AM   
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MANGINI TO BE FIRED?

Brett Favre may have not only axed his own career but also his coach!

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Mangini now on the firing line In a brief interview outside the Jets' locker room Sunday night after a season-ending, 24-17 loss to the Dolphins at the Meadowlands, owner Woody Johnson ripped his team of underachievers and put Eric Mangini on notice.

It could be Monday mourning for ManginiIn another sign that coach Eric Mangini is in extreme danger of being fired, the Jets announced at 2:40 a.m. Monday morning that owner Woody Johnson - and not Mangini - will address the media at 10 a.m. at the team's facility in Florham Park, N.J.

Myers: Time to bring in a superman

Woody Johnson should spend the next few days trying to entice former Steelers coach Bill Cowher back into coaching. If Johnson is going to make a change, he must bring in a coach who has had major success in the NFL.


Ziegel: Pennington wins out in the end

Chad Pennington was the quarterback, the hero, the last three times the Jets reached the playoffs, even-numbered years, every one of them. They didn't get very far, but far is hardly their best thing.


Gag Green: Worst Jets' Collapses

The Jets folded down the stretch during this 2008-09 season, starting out 8-3 and finishing 9-7 to miss the playoffs. But this was just the first in a long line of collapses in Jets history. Vote and tell us which was the worst.


Favre's magic disappears down the stretch

Unfortunately for Brett Favre and the Jets, what started out as a marriage made in heaven in August ended in heartbreak and bitter disappointment.



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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 8:18:19 AM   
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How 'bout them Cowboys!

Tony Romo came up way short in another crucial game, dropping his record to 5-8 in December. T.O. was a non-factor, despite six catches for 103 yards.

"They just handed us an old-fashioned butt whipping," Owens said. "I don't have all the answers, but I'd love to be part of the solution."

Team sources told ESPN's Ed Werder that there was commotion and concern in the Cowboys locker room after the game when Romo collapsed in the shower. Players called for medical staff, who brought in a stretcher, but Romo walked out on his own. Romo then did his news conference but had to be helped from the podium. Sources said Romo suffered a rib injury in the second half.
 
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TO would like to be part of the solution? 

I think he will be...
A big part of the solution will be IMHO dumping his crybaby, selfish, locker room cancer ass at the earliest opportunity. 

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 8:20:16 AM   
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I have said for two years

Terrell Owens is NOT the problem on that team.

The problem is overrated Romo.  He is Choking Dog II


Romo is a big part of the problem...but so is TO.  They are both part of the problem.  The solution is to dump TO, find a good backup to push Romo, fire Phillips and hire Garrett...and start over now.

That being said...I am very happy that "America's team" is once again not in the playoffs.  Them and the Patriots out makes me very happy.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 8:27:21 AM   
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Romo is a much bigger problem than Owens.  First off, he underperforms more.

More importantly, Romo still has very bad mechanics and chokes in the clutch - two huge problems for a franchise QB.

Romo's early success hurt him because he started thinking he could make those sandlot plays on a regular basis and when you play against good defenses and you do that you turn the ball over. 

Romo is by far the bigger problem for Dallas.

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RE: RE:NFL News - 12/29/2008 9:15:35 AM   
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Romo is a much bigger problem than Owens.  First off, he underperforms more.

More importantly, Romo still has very bad mechanics and chokes in the clutch - two huge problems for a franchise QB.

Romo's early success hurt him because he started thinking he could make those sandlot plays on a regular basis and when you play against good defenses and you do that you turn the ball over. 

Romo is by far the bigger problem for Dallas.


I am not disagreeing with you.  Romo is a big part of the problem. 

I am just saying that so is TO.  TO putting more pressure on Romo to throw him the ball isn't helping Romo out at all. 

What Romo really needs is no more TO, and a backup that is pushing him for the starting job.  That will either make him try to be better or lose his job to a better QB. 

Quite frankly...I hate the Cowboys almost as much as I hate the Patriots.  So to me, if they want to keep Romo and TO and keep substandard backups like Brad Johnson around...and substandard coaches like Wade Phillips...that will be fine with me.  Keep the team sucking Jerry!

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