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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 2:25:18 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


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Status: offline 		[quote="thebigo"][quote="Cheesehead Craig"]Packer D wins the game today. The offense was bad. Complete domination by the Packers in the 2nd half with the D. 5-1 is outstanding going into the bye week.[/quote] ESPN.com says "Favre leads Packers to win"...[/quote] That's a load of garbage. Favre hung two deep balls to wide open receivers that were picked. One cost us a TD and the other would have sealed the game late. After the Chicago game though, the Packers D needed a game like yesterdays to get the confidence back. Al Harris needs a week off to get healed up and the OL desperately needs the extra time to get the running game doing something.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 3:30:16 PM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		The Packers found a way to win a tough game and I give them credit. Campbell is still young and learning how to win tough games on the road. The downside for the Packers is that it looks like Favre's level of play is slowly slipping.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 3:52:23 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


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Status: offline 		[quote="John Childress"]The Packers found a way to win a tough game and I give them credit. Campbell is still young and learning how to win tough games on the road. The downside for the Packers is that it looks like Favre's level of play is slowly slipping.[/quote] Agree on Favre. He's got that feeling that he has to do something to win the game and is forcing things versus letting it happen. We could see a big slide unless the running game gets some signs of life.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 3:58:44 PM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		8 @DEN 8:30 PM ET 9 @KC 1:00 PM ET 10 MIN 1:00 PM ET 11 CAR 1:00 PM ET 12 @DET 12:30 PM ET 13 @DAL 8:15 PM ET 14 OAK 1:00 PM ET 15 @STL 1:00 PM ET 16 @CHI 1:00 PM ET 17 DET 1:00 PM ET Pretty easy schedule Unless Favre completely falls apart it is going to be hard for you to do worse than 11-5 and 12-4 is easily possible. If you go 2-1 in your next 3 then I think 12 wins is almost a certainty.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 5:45:02 PM   
Rob Viking

 

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Status: offline 		The Packers were very fortunate today but a win is a win over a quality opponent. There was a big play called back for Washington that was wiped out for a questionable call on Randle El who had taken the ball down to the Packer 15, while the game was 14-10 Washington. The Packers returned the fumble a couple of plays later.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 6:13:04 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


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Status: offline 		[quote="John Childress"]8 @DEN 8:30 PM ET 9 @KC 1:00 PM ET 10 MIN 1:00 PM ET 11 CAR 1:00 PM ET 12 @DET 12:30 PM ET 13 @DAL 8:15 PM ET 14 OAK 1:00 PM ET 15 @STL 1:00 PM ET 16 @CHI 1:00 PM ET 17 DET 1:00 PM ET Pretty easy schedule Unless Favre completely falls apart it is going to be hard for you to do worse than 11-5 and 12-4 is easily possible. If you go 2-1 in your next 3 then I think 12 wins is almost a certainty.[/quote] I like the Denver matchup as they are struggling. We have no answer for Gonzalez at KC and they seem to be showing some signs of life. Have no clue how we are going to stop your running game. Carolina seems winnable. Detroit always gives us fits at their place. Dallas is going to be a nightmare. Oakland should be manageable as should STL. The Bears game is not too favorable and Detroit at home seems good. So much could go wrong still. Wouldn't be surprised if we go 5-5 from this point on.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 6:33:41 PM   
Trekgeekscott


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Status: offline 		[quote="Cheesehead Craig"][quote="John Childress"]8 @DEN 8:30 PM ET 9 @KC 1:00 PM ET 10 MIN 1:00 PM ET 11 CAR 1:00 PM ET 12 @DET 12:30 PM ET 13 @DAL 8:15 PM ET 14 OAK 1:00 PM ET 15 @STL 1:00 PM ET 16 @CHI 1:00 PM ET 17 DET 1:00 PM ET Pretty easy schedule Unless Favre completely falls apart it is going to be hard for you to do worse than 11-5 and 12-4 is easily possible. If you go 2-1 in your next 3 then I think 12 wins is almost a certainty.[/quote] I like the Denver matchup as they are struggling. We have no answer for Gonzalez at KC and they seem to be showing some signs of life. Have no clue how we are going to stop your running game. Carolina seems winnable. Detroit always gives us fits at their place. Dallas is going to be a nightmare. Oakland should be manageable as should STL. The Bears game is not too favorable and Detroit at home seems good. So much could go wrong still. Wouldn't be surprised if we go 5-5 from this point on.[/quote] Packers have what appears to be a relatively easy schedule...however, Dallas is the best team in the NFC (even though they just got slaughtered by the Pats), Detroit is tougher this year than previous years (still don't think they are good). Vikings almost beat you, they shouldn't be taken lightly. Bears beat you at Lambeau and ALWAYS play the Pack tough. Depends on which KC you get. and then there is the Panthers...They aren't a guaranteed win. Packers should win the division still...but they are on a precipice. Things could go south very quickly. And If they don't get a real running game soon...They wont last long in the playoffs. NFC this year is awful. the NFCs best team just got mauled by the Pats. The real Super Bowl will be the AFCCG if you ask me.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 7:14:17 PM   
djskillz


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Status: offline 		[quote="Trekgeekscott"][quote="Cheesehead Craig"][quote="John Childress"]8 @DEN 8:30 PM ET 9 @KC 1:00 PM ET 10 MIN 1:00 PM ET 11 CAR 1:00 PM ET 12 @DET 12:30 PM ET 13 @DAL 8:15 PM ET 14 OAK 1:00 PM ET 15 @STL 1:00 PM ET 16 @CHI 1:00 PM ET 17 DET 1:00 PM ET Pretty easy schedule Unless Favre completely falls apart it is going to be hard for you to do worse than 11-5 and 12-4 is easily possible. If you go 2-1 in your next 3 then I think 12 wins is almost a certainty.[/quote] I like the Denver matchup as they are struggling. We have no answer for Gonzalez at KC and they seem to be showing some signs of life. Have no clue how we are going to stop your running game. Carolina seems winnable. Detroit always gives us fits at their place. Dallas is going to be a nightmare. Oakland should be manageable as should STL. The Bears game is not too favorable and Detroit at home seems good. So much could go wrong still. Wouldn't be surprised if we go 5-5 from this point on.[/quote] Packers have what appears to be a relatively easy schedule...however, Dallas is the best team in the NFC (even though they just got slaughtered by the Pats), Detroit is tougher this year than previous years (still don't think they are good). Vikings almost beat you, they shouldn't be taken lightly. Bears beat you at Lambeau and ALWAYS play the Pack tough. Depends on which KC you get. and then there is the Panthers...They aren't a guaranteed win. Packers should win the division still...but they are on a precipice. Things could go south very quickly. And If they don't get a real running game soon...They wont last long in the playoffs. NFC this year is awful. the NFCs best team just got mauled by the Pats. The real Super Bowl will be the AFCCG if you ask me.[/quote] Well said Scott. I had the same thoughts on all. And good stuff JC and Craig; Favre is about ready to start his annual pick parade I think.
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RE:The Packers - 10/15/2007 8:55:22 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


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Status: offline 		Nothing's going to come easy from this point on. Given how this team has started out the last 2-3 years, being 5-1 after 6 games is fantastic. I agree with JC though, if we can come out of the Den, KC and MN stretch 2-1, we're looking real good.
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RE:The Packers - 10/20/2007 5:40:02 PM   
thebigo


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Status: offline 		[quote="Cheesehead Craig"][quote="thebigo"][quote="Cheesehead Craig"]Packer D wins the game today. The offense was bad. Complete domination by the Packers in the 2nd half with the D. 5-1 is outstanding going into the bye week.[/quote] ESPN.com says "Favre leads Packers to win"...[/quote] That's a load of garbage. Favre hung two deep balls to wide open receivers that were picked. One cost us a TD and the other would have sealed the game late. After the Chicago game though, the Packers D needed a game like yesterdays to get the confidence back. Al Harris needs a week off to get healed up and the OL desperately needs the extra time to get the running game doing something.[/quote] Is it just me, but Favre seems to be a better dome QB in his old age, not so good in the elements.
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RE:The Packers - 10/20/2007 8:38:46 PM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		That is because outside he floats his deep balls. Now when I see Favre throwing a ball over 30 yards I know it is a pick. Favre over 30 yards this year is 1 for 10 with 3INTs and 0 TDs
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RE:The Packers - 10/20/2007 9:23:34 PM   
Lynn G.


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Status: offline 		I'd be curious to know how that compares with previous years because that seems like the way it's been for quite a few years. Whenever he leans back and just heaves one - the other team seems to come up with it.
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 3:56:39 AM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		2007 - 1 for 10, 0 TDs, 3 INTs 2006 - 4 for 33, 3 TDs, 3 INTs 2005 - 4 for 30, 1 TDs, 10 INTs 2004 - 12 for 40, 3 TDs, 5 INTs 2007 - 7 for 27, 4 TDs, 3 INTs TOTALS - 28 for 130, 11 TDs, 24 INTs FAVRE OVER 30 YARDS IN THE AIR
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 3:57:26 AM   
John Childress


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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 4:35:28 AM   
Lynn G.


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Status: offline 		Don't send that information to Green Bay. They might tell him to stop doing that. ;)
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 5:28:08 AM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		Favre is absolutely brutal over 30 yards
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 9:00:50 AM   
djskillz


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Status: offline 		I would suspect that just about every QB is much worse over 30 yards, but yes, that is atrocious. It's the thing I hate most about Favre; just how careless he is.
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 3:36:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		My deepest sympathy to the Packer fans and especially, the family of Max McGee. I always liked listening to Max and Jim Irwin together on the Packers network, amazing to admit for a die-hard Vikes fan. They had some special chemistry together, much of it emanating from Max himself. This guy was an original. I've got a dad who's about Max's age and who still tries (and does) things he shouldn't really be tackling himself. I worry about just such an accident. RIP Max.
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 3:54:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well said Mark. I second the thoughts. Love some of this stuff. He was an original. McGee -- remembered for saying: "When it's third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time." -- put Lombardi to the ultimate test prior to the first Super Bowl. McGee had caught only four passes for 91 yards during the 1966 regular season and, not expecting to play against the Chiefs, violated the team's curfew and spent the night before the game partying. Reportedly, the next morning he told Dowler: "I hope you don't get hurt. I'm not in very good shape." Dowler went down with a separated shoulder on the Packers' second drive, and McGee had to borrow a helmet because he left his in the locker room. A few plays later, McGee made a onehanded reception of a pass from Bart Starr and ran 37 yards to score. "He had a delightful sense of humor and had a knack for coming up with big plays when you least expected it to happen," Packers historian Lee Remmel said. "He had a great sense of timing." Remmel said McGee once teased Lombardi when the coach showed the team a football on their first meeting and said, "Gentlemen, this is a football."McGee said, 'Not so fast, not so fast,'" Remmel said. "That gives you an index to the kind of humor that he served up regularly."
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 4:36:36 PM   
John Childress


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Status: offline 		[quote="djskilbr"]I would suspect that just about every QB is much worse over 30 yards, but yes, that is atrocious. It's the thing I hate most about Favre; just how careless he is.[/quote] OVER 30 YARDS Romo - 0 for 3 , 0 TDs, 0 INTs Brady - 3 for 5, 2 TDs, 0 INTs P Manning - 2 for 4, 1 TD, 1 INT Jackson - 1 for 9, 1 TD, 1 INT On passes over 20 yards in the air Jackson is 1 for 15, 1 TD, 3 INTs That HAS TO IMPROVE!
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 4:49:59 PM   
Lynn G.


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Status: offline 		Sorry to hear about Max McGee's untimely death. He's been living in the Twin Cities for decades and has done a large number of charity events for his causes. Scary way to go. :cry:
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 8:38:03 PM   
David Moufang

 

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Status: offline 		R.I.P. Max McGee I grew up listening to him and Jim Erwin on Packers radio. I had no idea he lived here. Too bad.
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RE:The Packers - 10/21/2007 10:20:03 PM   
Cheesehead Craig


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Status: offline 		Max was great. He set the bar for the Packers Radio Network. One of the finer radio voices and analysts I've heard. Never afraid to say things that were unpopular, not because he wanted the shock value, but he simply spoke his mind and wasn't afraid to say when he was wrong either.
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RE:The Packers - 10/23/2007 1:10:57 AM   
David Moufang

 

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Status: offline 		And Chi-Chis made him a fortune. Smart business, horrible food. Can't tell you how many people I know who got sick there multiple times. Anyway, let's destroy Denver tonight for the MaxMan. I wonder if Erwin will be in attendance.
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RE:The Packers - 10/23/2007 1:14:16 AM   
Lynn G.


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Status: offline 		Tonight? You're a week ahead in the time warp David! :D Watching Denver play last night - they're going to be a tough adversary. It looks like they scrap for everything!
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