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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 2/10/2015 9:45:49 AM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 4/30/2015 11:18:20 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 5/1/2015 1:33:44 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 6/2/2015 7:33:06 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 12:52:04 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 1:54:31 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.


No one may be "forcing" these guys to play, but not a single one of them can make it to a pro team without playing college ball first, and a lot of them wouldn't be able to afford college in the first place if they weren't playing ball. It's not an equitable dynamic by any means. They are flat out being exploited, whether you care to admit it or not.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 1:56:40 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.


No one may be "forcing" these guys to play, but not a single one of them can make it to a pro team without playing college ball first, and a lot of them wouldn't be able to afford college in the first place if they weren't playing ball. It's not an equitable dynamic by any means. They are flat out being exploited, whether you care to admit it or not.


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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 2:50:47 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.


No one may be "forcing" these guys to play, but not a single one of them can make it to a pro team without playing college ball first, and a lot of them wouldn't be able to afford college in the first place if they weren't playing ball. It's not an equitable dynamic by any means. They are flat out being exploited, whether you care to admit it or not.


You can only play NFL football if you completed some college requirements?
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 3:41:21 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 4:45:52 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.


No one may be "forcing" these guys to play, but not a single one of them can make it to a pro team without playing college ball first, and a lot of them wouldn't be able to afford college in the first place if they weren't playing ball. It's not an equitable dynamic by any means. They are flat out being exploited, whether you care to admit it or not.


You can only play NFL football if you completed some college requirements?


You have to go to college to enter the draft, so your only shot would be as a free agent. Good luck getting noticed without having college tape.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 4:46:36 PM   
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Where does Babs have his degree from??


How many NFL games has he played?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 4:49:41 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 4:56:24 PM   
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He also didn't make the NFL until he was 30.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 5:01:41 PM   
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Where does Babs have his degree from??


How many NFL games has he played?


Is he under contract?
Does his paycheck have the commissioner's facsimile signature on it?
Did he not take live snaps in an actual NFL game on an actual NFL Venue field?

You can say " these games don't count because they are meaningless", all you want.

Getting blown out 41-0 in the "postseason" makes that game pretty meaningless to anyone on the doughnut side of the score as well.

They are both NFL Sanctioned Contests.

The reality is that his presence in the NFL, refutes your point.

End of story.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 5:10:09 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 8/28/2015 10:31:36 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.


No one may be "forcing" these guys to play, but not a single one of them can make it to a pro team without playing college ball first, and a lot of them wouldn't be able to afford college in the first place if they weren't playing ball. It's not an equitable dynamic by any means. They are flat out being exploited, whether you care to admit it or not.


You can only play NFL football if you completed some college requirements?


You have to go to college to enter the draft, so your only shot would be as a free agent. Good luck getting noticed without having college tape.


And college training that advances you to the skill level of fledgling NFL player.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/4/2015 11:22:50 AM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/4/2015 12:10:03 PM   
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Probably more corrupt. Because their labor gets pennies for the dollars they get.

College football is not professional football league. Nobody is forcing these guys to play college football. If the players want money have them join a league that pays the players. If they want an education and a chance to hone their game before turning professional go to college. Not complicated at all.


No one may be "forcing" these guys to play, but not a single one of them can make it to a pro team without playing college ball first, and a lot of them wouldn't be able to afford college in the first place if they weren't playing ball. It's not an equitable dynamic by any means. They are flat out being exploited, whether you care to admit it or not.

BS just like you said they are exploiting college football to get to the pros. They could also get a college degree out of it. There are leagues that pay players to play below the NFL level. They have that option.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/4/2015 12:12:01 PM   
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If you want to nit-pick my use of the phrase "not a one of them", that's fine. But the number of players who have been able to get into the league without playing college ball is vanishingly small, and mostly comprises soccer players turned kickers.

So college gives the players an opportunity to make it to the NFL. Once again the players are exploiting the colleges.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/5/2015 2:11:40 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/5/2015 3:47:12 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/5/2015 6:36:21 PM   
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UCLA's freshman quarterback is pretty good.


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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/5/2015 6:36:44 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/5/2015 7:24:27 PM   
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/5/2015 8:40:28 PM   
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Sorry Steve, I'm sure that stung but as a neutral guy, that was a great game to watch.


That it was!

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