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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/17/2015 1:44:49 PM   
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If the Twins had the 1st pick in that draft, would they have taken Correia?


I think that would have been an open question. The Twins were supposedly very high on both. Correa had kind of a late charge in the draft because of his tools and looking more at the fact that he could stay at SS longterm.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/17/2015 2:31:36 PM   
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If the Twins had the 1st pick in that draft, would they have taken Correia?


I think that would have been an open question. The Twins were supposedly very high on both. Correa had kind of a late charge in the draft because of his tools and looking more at the fact that he could stay at SS longterm.



plus he agreed to go big time under slot so they could then draft and sign mc cullers (with that saved money) who scared teams off from drafting him b/c of his $ demands

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/17/2015 2:34:16 PM   
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Ya, Houston's done that for a few years now. Has worked for them thus far.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/17/2015 2:34:48 PM   
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IIRC, Correa was picked to save the Astros $ so they could go higher on McCullers later. I think Correa was rated the 4th-5th best player but the Astros knew he'd be very signable. I could be wrong, though.



you are correct
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/17/2015 2:36:32 PM   
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I have little doubt that the Twins would have picked Correa 2nd in that draft if Buxton went 1st. Would have been interesting to see them make the choice between the two.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/18/2015 11:46:02 PM   
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Kid is going to be a superstar. Most in the industry think he'll be one of the best (if not THE best, even over Trout) player in baseball within a year or two. I can't disagree. I'll never be disappointed in Buxton, but man, it's fun to think about what this team could look like with Correa just fit-wise.





I can understand CPAMAN taking the low road calling Mike Trout "Overrated", but not you D......

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/19/2015 5:10:47 PM   
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Greinke with 42 scoreless innings. I always wanted him as our Ace.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 9:22:10 AM   
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He's still got a ways to go, but man that's impressive. 1.30 ERA on the year now. Those are Mariano Rivera/Wade Davis numbers....from a starter! What's with the Dodgers and these?

Drysdale, Hershiser, Greinke.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 8:04:35 PM   
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The Tigers have dipped below .500 for the first time since early 2013.
Red Sox have scored one run since the AS break.
Greinke keeps rollin.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 8:07:02 PM   
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The Tigers have dipped below .500 for the first time since early 2013.
Red Sox have scored one run since the AS break.
Greinke keeps rollin.


Maybe they'll have one last run in 'em, but the beginning of the end for Detroit. They're going to be at the bottom of this division for many years with their age/contracts. The Phillies of the AL. Can't wait.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 8:55:37 PM   
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Pirates putting it on the Royales tonight.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 9:05:09 PM   
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Stark ranks MLB fans

1. Red Sox
2. Giants
3. Cards
4. Brewers
5. Tigers
6. Reds
7. O's
8. Pirates
9. Phils
10. Yanks
11. Royals
12. Pads
13. Twins
14, Cubs
15. Indians
16. Rockies
17. Mariners
18. Jays
19. Braves
20. Dodgers
21. Rangers
22. Angels
23. Nats
24. Rays
25. Astros
26. White Sox
27. Mets
28. Marlins
29. DBacks
30. A's





So what if I told you that Brewers fans ranked in the top five fan bases in baseball -- and Mets fans ranked among the five worst?

Or what if I told you that Padres fans ranked higher than Cubs fans? Or that Indians fans ranked higher than Dodgers fans?

Heck, I know exactly what you’d say, actually. First off, you’d say: “Hey Stark, when did you misplace your frigging mind?"


And then, once you realized that approach wasn’t getting you anywhere, you’d say, much more politely: “Could you please show me the data that proves that? Why, thank you.”

Well, gee. You’re welcome. Now here comes the part where I say: “Don’t blame me. I didn’t come up with these MLB Fan Power Rankings. The incisive data-crunchers at TicketCity.com did.” They then directed them our way, and we found them fascinating.

So you and I get to peruse these rankings together (here's the list -- with all their data included) and see what we think. But if you really want to know what I think, here are my Top 10 Reactions to the Fan Power Rankings, with some hopefully incisive insights mixed in there that will help both of us make sense of it all:

1) RED SOX AT NO. 1? I noticed constantly that these power rankings didn’t seem to correspond with the All-Star voting. Red Sox fans may be consumed by the daily soap opera of their fine franchise, but the only guy they voted for enough to get him into the top five at any position was Xander Bogaerts, who finished fourth at shortstop.

But when I looked at the data, it was obvious why they still ranked No. 1. TicketCity ranked each franchise by percent of Twitter and Facebook followers, compared with the size of their metro area. The Red Sox were No. 1 in Facebook following and a close second to the Cardinals in Twitter followers. So they clearly hashtagged their way to the top.

2) METS AT NO. 27? I don’t dispute that Mets fans ought to rank below Yankees fans, no matter how you crunch this data. But I actually think all the teams in two-team markets wound up being ranked too low, for some reason. I’m guessing it’s because they divide their market in a way this formula may not have accurately quantified. Nevertheless, the data told us this about the Mets:

Their fans were the least likely, by far, to follow their team on social media. Only Angels fans were even close. I’m guessing, again, that this is a reflection of what it means to be the second-most popular team in a two-team market. But even if this ranking is slightly skewed, it tells us something, right?

3) ROYALS AT NO. 11? Does anybody besides me wonder where Royals fans would have finished if these rankings were compiled a year ago? Or 10 years ago? The surge of interest in this team nearly blew up the All-Star voting. And it showed up loud and clear in this data, too. The Royals’ Twitter following, measured as a percentage of their market, was topped by only five teams. And their attendance and revenue scores, when compared with market size, were incredible.

So even though they just missed the top 10, almost all of the teams ahead of them would land on any list of the most iconic franchises in baseball. And who knows? Maybe the Royals are about to reestablish their claim to being one of them.

4) PADRES FANS (12) OVER CUBS FANS (14)? OK, you’ve got me. In my experience covering baseball and hanging out at ballparks, I’d draw this conclusion: Cubs fans are everywhere. Padres fans are pretty much nowhere, except for select sports bars in La Jolla. So where did these rankings come from? These teams apparently have roughly the same percentage of social-media penetration. And the other data appears inconclusive.

So I’m back to my theory about franchises in two-team markets being at a disadvantage. The population and rooting interests of people in Chicago are so much larger and more diverse than the population and rooting interests of residents of San Diego, that has to be working against the Cubs. But if anyone agrees with this ranking, or has any other theories, please let us know. Doesn’t make much sense to me, or anyone I’ve asked, otherwise.

5) INDIANS FANS (15) OVER DODGERS FANS (20)? Let’s see now. The Dodgers rank first in the entire sport in attendance. The Indians rank behind every team except Tampa Bay. The Dodgers fill their stadium to more than 80 percent of capacity every game. The Indians fill theirs to under 40 percent. So let me say again: I’m confused!

Based on my reading of this data, the Indians actually benefited here because their population base is so much smaller than the Dodgers’. So Indians fans wound up significantly ahead in social-media scores and in revenues (based on a weighted percentage of market size). On one hand, I think it’s a good idea to take market size into consideration here. On the other, I don’t recall living in a world with more Indians fans than Dodgers fans, no matter how you compute that. But it’s interesting!

FIVE MORE OBSERVATIONS:



Ladies and gentlemen, MLB's worst fans. Jason O. Watson/Getty Images

6) NATIONALS (23) AND RAYS (24) IN ALMOST A DEAD HEAT? I know Washington is a big place, where stuff that’s slightly more important than baseball can find a way to dominate the headlines. But the Nationals draw twice as many fans per game as that team in Tampa Bay. Don’t ask me why they’re less likely to follow their team on Twitter.

7) ANGELS (22) AND WHITE SOX (26) IN THE BOTTOM 10? They’re both The Other Team in two-franchise markets. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.






8) BREWERS AT NO. 4? No argument from me on this one, believe it or not. Only four teams ranked above the Brewers in weighted Twitter following. And considering this is the smallest media market in baseball, it never ceases to impress me how rabid this fan base is.

9) GIANTS AT NO. 2? To be honest, I thought they might be No. 1. As of the All-Star break, they'd sold out 374 regular-season games in a row, dating all the way back to 2010. They’re the best in the business at using social media and connecting with their fan base. And with all due respect to every other team and ballpark in North America, there’s nothing like a night at AT&T Park.

10) ALL-STAR VOTING VERSUS FAN RANKINGS? I’d have thought that the All-Star voting would fall in line with these power rankings at least a little. But boy, would I have been wrong. We actually wound up with more starters elected from the BOTTOM 10 teams on this list (six) than from the top 10 (five). I kid you not. From the top 10: Buster Posey, Jhonny Peralta, Matt Holliday, Miguel Cabrera and Todd Frazier. From the bottom 10: Giancarlo Stanton, Dee Gordon, Paul Goldschmidt, Bryce Harper, Mike Trout and Jose Altuve. Moral of the story: There’s a big difference between fan power and voting power!


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 9:55:00 PM   
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And ... the Royals get right back into it
8-7 in the 8th.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 11:36:50 PM   
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I don't agree on the order of them (would have them reverse 1-3) but those top 3 are pretty clear-cut to me. I think those 3 are all a cut above the rest. I would have the Yanks higher than they are though.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 11:40:15 PM   
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Pujols keeps keepin' on. 548 now. League-leading 29 this year so far. Maybe he's got a shot at the record yet?

He's under contract for 6 more years. Will be VERY tough, but you never know. 40 or so this year and at least 35 the next 2 would go a long way towards that for him. Would still have to average about 32 in his last 4 years to get there though.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 11:58:22 PM   
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And he just got another. 3 tonight. Geez.

Kurt, I'm finding your Angels less detestable these days. Thinking about going in to the doc.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 11:58:52 PM   
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Pujols keeps keepin' on. 548 now. League-leading 29 this year so far. Maybe he's got a shot at the record yet?

He's under contract for 6 more years. Will be VERY tough, but you never know. 40 or so this year and at least 35 the next 2 would go a long way towards that for him. Would still have to average about 32 in his last 4 years to get there though.



He's swinging like he's mad at the ball.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/20/2015 11:59:31 PM   
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Pujols keeps keepin' on. 548 now. League-leading 29 this year so far. Maybe he's got a shot at the record yet?

He's under contract for 6 more years. Will be VERY tough, but you never know. 40 or so this year and at least 35 the next 2 would go a long way towards that for him. Would still have to average about 32 in his last 4 years to get there though.



He's swinging like he's mad at the ball.


What a year he's having. And what a career. From the glimpse of the guy I've seen, couldn't happen to a nicer man.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 12:15:22 AM   
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Pujols keeps keepin' on. 548 now. League-leading 29 this year so far. Maybe he's got a shot at the record yet?

He's under contract for 6 more years. Will be VERY tough, but you never know. 40 or so this year and at least 35 the next 2 would go a long way towards that for him. Would still have to average about 32 in his last 4 years to get there though.



He's swinging like he's mad at the ball.


What a year he's having. And what a career. From the glimpse of the guy I've seen, couldn't happen to a nicer man.



Good for baseball. Hard not to like that guy.

He'd look good in pinstripes. That won't happen. They'll have to settle for Cueto and Zobrist.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 12:15:58 AM   
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"settle"

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 12:22:29 AM   
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"settle"



Well, they may not get both. They actually have some good prospects which I don't think they are willing to deal.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 12:26:00 AM   
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Ya, you do. You have some LARGE dudes coming, man.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 11:54:17 AM   
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And he just got another. 3 tonight. Geez.

Kurt, I'm finding your Angels less detestable these days. Thinking about going in to the doc.



Just succumb to it D....

I'm shocked really that they're rotation came together this fast (at least to this point)

Heaney, and Santiago have been huge for us...

We still need AT LEAST two more bats to contend IMO...

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 12:53:18 PM   
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And he just got another. 3 tonight. Geez.

Kurt, I'm finding your Angels less detestable these days. Thinking about going in to the doc.



Just succumb to it D....

I'm shocked really that they're rotation came together this fast (at least to this point)

Heaney, and Santiago have been huge for us...

We still need AT LEAST two more bats to contend IMO...

Says the guy whose lineup already includes PooHoles and Trout.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 7/21/2015 4:12:15 PM   
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Yordano Ventura demoted to Triple-A

The Royals sent the RHP down after going 4-7 with a 5.19 ERA and spending time on the DL. He was coming off a breakout 2014 season in which he went 14-10 with a 3.20 ERA. Kansas City activated LHP Jason Vargas from the 15-day DL, and he will start tonight vs. Pittsburgh.



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