RE: MLB General Information PT 4

Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums Register Login My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums

Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ Ticket List Log Out

RE: MLB General Information PT 4

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [Other Minnesota Sports] >> Minnesota Twins >> RE: MLB General Information PT 4

Page: << < prev 49 50 [51] 52 53 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 2:29:44 PM

Trekgeekscott

Posts: 39282
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: United Federation of Planets
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Agree with both of those posts. Very solid.

The arguments I'm continually seeing on Morris are bordering on the silly. Apparently, "most Game 1s started" is a great way of analyzing a pitcher's entire career.

Morris was good. Very good. Scrappy. But just like Dave Stieb who was about as good in the same era...he's not HOF worthy. I truly believe he's stayed on the ballot this long because of his WS heroics more than anything.

But nobody should go in on the strength of one game...

_____________________________

“There is no hate like Christian love.”

Post #: 1251

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 2:33:39 PM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/64359436/?partnerId=ed-7774112-628756403

Here's the writer's ballot. Need to read the article for his reasoning. Looks good, but I'm not sure about Mussina at first glance. I would probably replace Mussina with Larry Walker or Jeff Kent. I guess I'm on board with Bonds and Clemens, but I know they will not be getting enough votes anytime soon.

Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddux
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Frank Thomas

On this list, I would only question Mussina. Hall of very good at most...not HOF. But I am sure that his inclusion has as much to do with what I like to call the "Yankee/Red Sox" effect. what I mean is, he played for the Yankees so he got lots of extra media attention that pitchers with similar numbers playing in say...Kansas City would have gotten.

All others, by their level of play and careers belong in the HOF imho.

I'll be very curious to see what kind of support Mussina gets.

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1252

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 2:47:38 PM

Mr. Ed

Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline

quote:

I'll be very curious to see what kind of support Mussina gets.

Depends on How many voters think Kenny Loggins should be in, too.

_____________________________

Escape while you can!

Post #: 1253

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:08:45 PM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

I'll be very curious to see what kind of support Mussina gets.

Depends on How many voters think Kenny Loggins should be in, too.

Will the voters enter the Danger Zone?!

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1254

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:11:49 PM

Trekgeekscott

Posts: 39282
Joined: 7/16/2007
From: United Federation of Planets
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

I'll be very curious to see what kind of support Mussina gets.

Depends on How many voters think Kenny Loggins should be in, too.

Will the voters enter the Danger Zone?!

For the First Time, perhaps, he'll Meet Me Halfway and tell me I'm Allright

Then I will be able to Celebrate Me Home.

_____________________________

“There is no hate like Christian love.”

Post #: 1255

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:32:16 PM

twinsfan

Posts: 63630
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline

If you read his explanation as to why he included Mussina, I don't think he even believes Mussina is the best choice. He wants to keep him on the ballot and evaluate later. However, is there really reason to believe he'll receive less than 5% of the vote? And I guess you can definitely question a person that is voting for someone just because they don't want that player to fall off the ballot.

_____________________________

“We are an unserious nation that's in serious $hit.”

-Me

Post #: 1256

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:33:20 PM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

Cano is going to be a Mariner. Fantastic player, but $230-240 million?! Wow.

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1257

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:34:07 PM

twinsfan

Posts: 63630
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

I'll be very curious to see what kind of support Mussina gets.

Depends on How many voters think Kenny Loggins should be in, too.

Will the voters enter the Danger Zone?!

For the First Time, perhaps, he'll Meet Me Halfway and tell me I'm Allright

Then I will be able to Celebrate Me Home.

When the BoSox fans said Please Come to Boston, he never came.

_____________________________

“We are an unserious nation that's in serious $hit.”

-Me

Post #: 1258

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:36:46 PM

twinsfan

Posts: 63630
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Cano is going to be a Mariner. Fantastic player, but $230-240 million?! Wow.

What happened to his demands for $301 million?

_____________________________

“We are an unserious nation that's in serious $hit.”

-Me

Post #: 1259

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:37:17 PM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Cano is going to be a Mariner. Fantastic player, but $230-240 million?! Wow.

What happened to his demands for $301 million?

Reality?

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1260

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 3:53:56 PM

Mr. Ed

Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline

quote:

When the BoSox fans said Please Come to Boston, he never came.

He said NO, won't you come home to me....

Hey Ramblin' Boy why don't you settle down, Boston ain't your kind of town...

_____________________________

Escape while you can!

Post #: 1261

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 4:00:03 PM

twinsfan

Posts: 63630
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline

By far the best Kenny Loggins song.

_____________________________

“We are an unserious nation that's in serious $hit.”

-Me

Post #: 1262

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 4:05:52 PM

sixthwi

Posts: 18119
Joined: 12/17/2007
From: Packerland
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

By far the best Kenny Loggins song.

Unfortunately that was a Dave Loggins song

_____________________________

The generation who would change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Post #: 1263

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/5/2013 4:18:11 PM

twinsfan

Posts: 63630
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline

_____________________________

“We are an unserious nation that's in serious $hit.”

-Me

Post #: 1264

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/6/2013 2:08:58 PM

Mr. Ed

Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline

Arencibia to TX, Garrett Jones to Miami

_____________________________

Escape while you can!

Post #: 1265

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/6/2013 11:03:19 PM

Mr. Ed

Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline

Beltran 3 year deal w/Yanks.

_____________________________

Escape while you can!

Post #: 1266

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/7/2013 7:48:06 AM

Jim Frenette

Posts: 15995
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Dundas
Status: offline

I really don't understand the Yankees. I think I would keep Granderson and Cano then Elsbury and Kelly Johnson.

_____________________________

Fargo

Post #: 1267

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/7/2013 9:49:32 AM

lylej

Posts: 6157
Joined: 7/18/2007
From: Mahnomen
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

I really don't understand the Yankees. I think I would keep Granderson and Cano then Elsbury and Kelly Johnson.

Jim, agree, however, when you look at Granderson getting 60M and Cano getting 240M, the Yankees would have had to pay the same (300M totla), most likely, and even for the Yankees, it was way more than they wanted or could afford to pay them!

_____________________________

Good pitching will beat good hitting any time, and vice versa.

Post #: 1268

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:00:21 AM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

Roy Halladay is retiring. Wow. Talk about falling off a cliff.

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1269

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:12:01 AM

Mr. Ed

Posts: 88732
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Minne-so-ta
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Roy Halladay is retiring. Wow. Talk about falling off a cliff.

Arm wore out. Done. Very Quickly.

Reminds me of Webb

_____________________________

Escape while you can!

Post #: 1270

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:18:41 AM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

Roy Halladay is retiring. Wow. Talk about falling off a cliff.

Arm wore out. Done. Very Quickly.

Reminds me of Webb

Was just checking out his stats. His best years were awesome, but not quite as amazing as I thought -- nothing to compare to Pedro's best years (which is a absurdly high bar, admittedly).

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1271

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:31:36 AM

Jim Frenette

Posts: 15995
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Dundas
Status: offline

LaRusa, Torre and Cox all elected to the HOF and all deserve it.

_____________________________

Fargo

Post #: 1272

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:32:18 AM

Dave E

Posts: 25479
Joined: 8/1/2007
From: Minneapolis
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

LaRusa, Torre and Cox all elected to the HOF and all deserve it.

Agree, I'm fine with all those. Marvin Miller should have made it as well, though.

_____________________________

"You guys are true athletes!"

--twinsfan

Post #: 1273

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:34:30 AM

Jim Frenette

Posts: 15995
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Dundas
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

LaRusa, Torre and Cox all elected to the HOF and all deserve it.

Agree, I'm fine with all those. Marvin Miller should have made it as well, though.

I disagree on Miller. He's a union guy, not baseball man

_____________________________

Fargo

Post #: 1274

RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 12/9/2013 10:43:14 AM

twinsfan

Posts: 63630
Joined: 12/21/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

LaRusa, Torre and Cox all elected to the HOF and all deserve it.

Agree, I'm fine with all those. Marvin Miller should have made it as well, though.

I disagree on Miller. He's a union guy, not baseball man

You don't like unions?

_____________________________

“We are an unserious nation that's in serious $hit.”

-Me

Post #: 1275

Page: << < prev 49 50 [51] 52 53 next > >>

All Forums >> [Other Minnesota Sports] >> Minnesota Twins >> RE: MLB General Information PT 4

Page: << < prev 49 50 [51] 52 53 next > >>

Jump to:

New Messages	No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages	Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages	Locked w/o New Messages

Post New Thread

Reply to Message

Post New Poll

Submit Vote

Delete My Own Post

Delete My Own Thread

Rate Posts