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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/26/2014 4:51:29 PM   
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Longtime MLB starter Carl Pavano will end his comeback bid and retire, agent Dave Pepe tells MLBTR. The 38-year-old threw 1,788 2/3 innings over parts of 14 seasons, posting a career 4.39 ERA.

"Despite my strong desire to compete and hard work in preparing for the upcoming season," said Pavano. "I feel that the amount of time lost from my spleen injury, coupled with the recovery from my complications from that injury, preclude me from continuing to compete at my highest level, which is necessary to perform in the major leagues." He went on to add that "three months of rigorous training have failed to produce the results that I was looking for to allow me to continue my major league career."


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/27/2014 8:41:15 AM   
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Check out Josh Reddicks two grabs off the fence yesterday if you can ...
outstanding.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/27/2014 8:43:50 AM   
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Check out Josh Reddicks two grabs off the fence yesterday if you can ...
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Saw one of them. That kind of effort is almost unheard of in ST by a veteran. He probably got scolded because he
could have gotten hurt.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:18:57 AM   
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This is an absolutely fascinating blog post by Joe Posnanski taking down Frank Deford's absurd idea to shrink home plate to limit strikeouts.  You really see how the way the game has changed over the years, and why steroids were not the sole cause of the giant increase in homers in the 90s.

http://joeposnanski.com/joeblogs/shrink-the-plate-what/

Shrink the plate? What?

My hero Frank Deford had a thought-provoking and semi-bizarre commentary on NPR the other day about the strike zone. Frank was one of the biggest reasons I became a sportswriter. In a way, his grace as a writer was the BIGGEST reason I became a sportswriter. So what follows is written in that spirit.
Frank based his commentary on a simple premise: There are too many strikeouts in baseball these days. He thinks it is making the game boring. To fix this, his solution is fairly simple: Shrink home plate. Frank’s idea is to cut an inch and a half off each side of the plate, making it 14 inches across instead of the 17 inches it is now.
So much to talk about here.

Question 1: Are there too many strikeouts in today’s game?

Obviously this is a matter of opinion, but I tend to agree at least somewhat with Frank. It would be nice to see the ball put in play more. As baseball fans know, the increase in strikeouts is a skyrocketing phenomenon. Here is the rise of strikeouts per game (both teams):
1946: Average 7 strikeouts
1952: Average 8 strikeouts
1956: Average 9 strikeouts.
1959: Average 10 strikeouts.
1963: Average 11 strikeouts.
1967: Average 12 strikeouts.
1971: Average 11 strikeouts.
1974: Average 10 strikeouts.
1986: Average 11 strikeouts.
1994: Average 12 strikeouts.
1997: Average 13 strikeouts.
2010: Average 14 strikeouts.
2012: Average 15 strikeouts.

Sp. you can see the progression kind of bounced around until the 1994 strike season and has been soaring ever since. The battle between hitter and pitcher is a fascinating one, but it is true that when 15 of the 54 outs are strikeouts there is a repetitive feel to at-bats. Strikeout. Walk. Strikeout. Lots of foul balls. Baseball is great when there’s motion — fielders in motion, runners in motion, things happening so fast our minds struggle to keep up — and with strikeouts, as Babu says on Seinfeld, there is no motion.
Question 2: Why are strikeouts up?
Here is where Frank and I begin to diverge. Frank lists off the following reasons for the rise in strikeouts: Hitters are working the count more, they are not embarrassed to strike out like they were in the proud olden days and, most of all, pitchers are faster and better than they have ever been. Frank’s general premise is built around the opinion that pitchers (in large part because of the extensive use of fresh-armed relievers) have passed hitters in quality and so the game must be altered to balance it.
I don’t believe this last part at all. At all. Yes, I’m sure the fact that pitchers throw in the mid-to-high 90s more consistently now than at any point in baseball history has some effect, as do those other factors.
But in my view. by far the biggest reason strikeouts are up is pretty simple: The incentives point the game in that direction.
Baseball’s incentives used to point toward few strikeouts. Batting average used to drive the game — or at least it drove the way the game was viewed both inside and outside. The best players were the ones with the highest batting averages. The mark of excellence was being a .300 hitter. And striking out a lot crushed your chances of hitting .300.
Look, between 1901 and 1994, there were 818 players who struck out 100 times in a season.
– 78 (10%) — hit .300 or better (only two, Roberto Clemente in 1967 and Dave Parker in 1977 led league in hitting)
– 139 (17%) — hit between .280 and .299
– 246 (30%) — hit between .260 and .279
– 224 (28%) — hit between .240 and .259
– 121 (15%) — hit lower than .240

The last 20 years, though, the game has been driven by a different force: Power. Of course, power was always a part of the game, but for a long time only a few select players had it. There were only five to 10 players in each league capable of hitting 30 home runs in a season for the half century or so before the strike. There was a clear division in baseball then. The greatest home run hitters, many of them — Ruth, Mantle, Schmidt, Foxx, Howard, Killebrew, Greenberg, Snider, Reggie, on and on and on — struck out a lot for their times. But they hit home runs so it was generally tolerated.
The rest of the hitters couldn’t afford to strike out that much. They were light-hitting middle infielders and fast outfielders and hit-and-run craftsmen and professional hitters. They HAD to put the ball in play. It was the only way they could provide offensive value, the only way they could become stars and get paid like stars. They could be .300 hitters.
But in the 1990s that drastically changed. Suddenly EVERYBODY had power. Second baseman were 15-25 homer guys. Shortstops crushed the ball. How did they do it? Well, lots of ways but one was: They just started swinging a lot harder. Just one example:
In 1976, 22 players hit 20-plus home runs.
In 2007, 84 players did.

In 1976, 18 players struck out 100 times.
In 2007, 86 players did.

The entire way we view the game has changed. As Tom Tango points out all the incentives these days point toward strikeouts. Pitchers — facing hitters who hit the ball farther and harder than they ever have — need to get strikeouts.* And so they pitch for the strikeout (rather than the old “put the ball in play” philosophy). Hitters, meanwhile, don’t really have the same incentive to avoid strikeouts. On-base percentage sand slugging percentages — not batting average — plays a much bigger role in baseball now and both of those can be HELPED by side-effects of strikeouts. The more pitches a batter sees, the more likely he will draw walks. The harder a hitter swings, the more likely he is to get extra bases when he connects.
Strikeouts are simply going to keep rising as long as the incentives of the game push it in that direction.
* * *
*INTERLUDE: It seems worthwhile to spend a minute or two talking about the incentives for pitchers to strike out more batters. We often talk here about BABIP — batting average on balls in play — but this is mostly to talk about defense and a pitcher’s general hit-luckiness. It excludes home runs hit because they are not technically in play.
But when looking at what pitchers have been facing since the strike, it’s even better to look at batting averages on balls hit fair. This includes home runs. And it paints a nasty picture for pitchers.
Twenty of the 21 highest batting averages of balls hit fair have come since the strike. Only the crazy 1930 season — the year Bill Terry hit .401, the year Hack Wilson drove in 191 RBIs, the year four players slugged .700 or better — even placed in the Top 20. In 1930, players hit .326 on balls hit fair. That’s 15th on the all-time list.
The Top 14 are 1994,1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2009, 2012.
The batting averages range from .327 to .333.
Even more telling: Slugging percentages. The top 20 slugging percentages on fair balls are ALL from 1994 to now. Twenty first on the list is that juiced ball 1987 season — it’s the only season not in the last 20 that had a .500 slugging percentages on balls hit fair.
What does this mean? It means you don’t want the hitter to make contact. Since the strike, hitters are absolutely crushing the ball when they connect. Again, you can blame steroids — I’d argue it’s a shift in the game. Hitters are stronger even without steroids. And most of them are paid to hit get extra base hits, even if they happen to be second basemen or catchers. Swing hard. That’s the game now.
So pitchers really have no choice but to go for strikeouts. In 1975, hitters hit .302 and slugged .438 when they hit the ball fair. A pitcher could didn’t have to go for the strikeout all the time — hitters would often get themselves out, and even if they got hits it was often a scratch single or something like that.
Last year, hitters who hit the ball fair hit .325 and slugged .509. They’d hurt you. As a pitcher, you better go for the punch out.
* * *
Question 3: Would shrinking the plate by three inches solve the problem?
Obviously, I don’t know for sure. But I have strong suspicion and it’s a two-part answer.
Part 1: It might or might not solve the problem.
Part 2: It would blow up the game and make the strikeout thing look like nothing at all.
If I’m being honest, I’m surprised someone as thoughtful and brilliant as Frank Deford would come up with such a lumbering and clumsy solution. It reeks of the old John Lowenstein joke that they should move first base a foot closer to the plate to eliminate close plays
I have little-to-no doubt that cutting home plate by about 20% would create absolute havoc in the game. Would it cut down strikeouts? I’m guessing it would but, I must say, I’m not even sure about that. Hitters might swing even harder and strike out even more because runs would absolutely go bananas.
But I do know it would blow up the entire structure of baseball as we know it. As Tom Tango points out, some time after the 2000 season, in an effort to slow down the insane run scoring of 1999 and 2000, umpires were encouraged to start calling the strike zone a bit more consistently with the rulebook. Runs dropped about .4 per game — the average team scored 65 or so fewer runs in a season which is a pretty big deal. That was for just the slightest adjustment.
A 20% reduction in plate size? Here’s what would happen: Walks would skyrocket — Bill James wonders if teams might walk seven more times PER TEAM PER GAME. Fourteen more walks per game. Yikes. I don’t know if it the numbers would be quite that high, but they would be very high. You could tack on a half hour to games already too long. And walks are ten times more boring than strikeouts. I’m kind of shocked that Frank did not consider this at all.
But here’s something else: If they shrunk the strike zone by 20%, someone would hit 80 home runs in a season within five years. And one hundred homers in a season would be in play. The thing people kept missing — and still keep missing — about the home run derby of the Steroid Era was that steroid use was only a part of it. We can argue about how big a part but there was so much more to the story. Harder bats. Livelier balls. Players (clean players too) who work out religiously. Home run friendly ballparks. And … the strike zone. Umpires essentially stopped calling the high strike, which forced (1) Pitchers to bring the ball down and (2) Hitters to have a smaller area to focus on.
If you shrink the strike zone and give these hitters a smaller target to work in — look out. I think Frank has it wrong. Pitchers have not improved more than hitters have. My guess is that it’s the other way around. Hitters — now facing night games, harder-throwing pitchers and relief pitching — crush baseballs. Barry Bonds proved that with increased strength — unnatural now, perhaps, but not necessarily unnatural in 20 years — the game’s balance can go completely out of whack. If you cut down the strike zone — especially by that much — I really believe, the game would go haywire.
* * *
Question 4: So what could be done to cut down strikeouts (if indeed this is a problem)?
I posed this to Bill and his answer is succinct and interesting: “Reduce power. Deaden the baseball’s 1% per year; see what happens. The strikeouts are a consequence of everybody trying to hit homers. If you take a few homers away, the odds swing in favor of hitting singles.”
Tom Tango’s idea is similar: “One way to change the balance for the hitter: move fences back 20-30 feet.
Now the HR is not so attainable.  Now they will think more about making contact.”

But then Tom asks the pertinent question: “Is the cure worse than the disease?”
It’s a good question. Do people — and I’m talking about the mass of baseball fans, not one particular sect — want to give up home runs to cut down on strikeouts? Do they want to go to more slappy baseball in order go get more consistent action?
I don’t know. My guess, frankly, is: No. I think most people would like to see a few less strikeouts or at least to stem the tide of rising strikeouts. I personally would like to see fewer strikeouts so we the games would have a little bit quicker pace and more movement.
But baseball’s great equalizer in a time more geared toward violence and dunks and thrills is the home run … and, frankly, the strikeout. Too much of them can (and does) get tedious. But too little and baseball can lose much of what makes it so popular. A 1976 game with lots of singles and stolen bases and few home runs and fewer strikeouts — yeah, I’m not sure how that’s playing in 2013.
I’d be for deadening the balls or bats slightly to give the game some added depth and dimension. But I don’t really know that it would improve the game. Honestly I would have been interested to hear Frank offer something counterintuitive like WIDENING the strike zone, which might make it less viable for hitters to swing so hard and might make them concentrate more on plate coverage. I don’t know if that would happen — I kind of doubt it — but I do believe that shrinking the strike zone is just about the worst baseball idea I’ve heard for a while.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:30:31 AM   
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David Wright beats out Eric Sogard as "Face of Baseball.'' What was this ... 1946 and only white guys were eligible?


David Wright vs. Eric Sogard? No wonder this game is in crapper w/ damn near everyone under 50.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:31:13 AM   
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http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/awards/y2014/faceofmlb/

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:33:57 AM   
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Extremely odd, Ed .... whaaa the?
As you say ... lets appeal to the old guard I guess.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:46:06 AM   
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Extremely odd, Ed .... whaaa the?
As you say ... lets appeal to the old guard I guess.



The 2 Tweets were from Reusse. The whole deal is odd. MLB set up their contest with THESE guys??

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:53:36 AM   
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David Wright beats out Eric Sogard as "Face of Baseball.'' What was this ... 1946 and only white guys were eligible?


David Wright vs. Eric Sogard? No wonder this game is in crapper w/ damn near everyone under 50.


Eric Sogard?????

Is Nick Punto in the running too?

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 9:57:02 AM   
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David Wright beats out Eric Sogard as "Face of Baseball.'' What was this ... 1946 and only white guys were eligible?


David Wright vs. Eric Sogard? No wonder this game is in crapper w/ damn near everyone under 50.


That's a hilarious bracket. Sogard makes a run to the finals.

He's the last guy on the entire board I would have voted for.

Paul Goldschmidt beat out Mike Trout in Round 1. They should have shut the whole thing down after that happened.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 10:05:00 AM   
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I would have gone with Eric Soderholm
Why not?

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 2/28/2014 10:05:48 AM   
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Trout?
Nahhhhh, flash in the pan. Too flashy. All that talent and stuff.
Pfffft.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/4/2014 9:13:33 AM   
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The Houston Astros' Jon Singleton, among the top first-base prospects in baseball, is opening up publicly for the first time about his battle with marijuana addiction and his monthlong stay at a rehabilitation center.
"At this point it's pretty evident to me that I'm a drug addict," he told The Associated Press over breakfast on a recent day near the Astros' camp. "I don't openly tell everyone that, but it's pretty apparent to myself."
Vividly so.
"I know that I enjoy smoking weed, I enjoy being high and I can't block that out of my mind that I enjoy that," he said. "So I have to work against that."


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AP Photo/Alex BrandonHouston Astros first baseman prospect Jon Singleton spent a month at a rehab facility to battle his marijuana addiction. "He's still young and still learning both about baseball and about life," GM Jeff Luhnow said.
Hours after the AP originally published its story on Singleton, the Astros released a statement and commended the player.
"We applaud Jon for the courage he has shown in tackling this issue head on. He has displayed a great deal of maturity and commitment over the past year and has the full support of the Astros organization," the team said. "He is on the right track for his baseball career, and, more importantly, for his life. We are very proud of Jon."
Singleton had avoided discussing the subject for more than a year. But on that recent morning, he shared his story with candor and ease, never bristling at the increasingly prying questions. The 6-foot-2, 235-pound athlete sat up straight in a small booth, adjusted the baseball cap he was wearing backward and filled in the details of his private struggle.
The 22-year-old said he has stopped using marijuana and is better now. He is determined to rebound from a season that was all but lost because of his addiction and to make his major league debut.
General manager Jeff Luhnow said Singleton could start the season with the Astros, but it's too early to know for sure. Singleton, a big, dynamic left-handed hitter with power and composure who can use the entire field, has been playing in the big league spring training games and went 0-for-2 on Monday in a 4-0 win over Miami.
"He's still young and still learning both about baseball and about life," Luhnow said.
Singleton, acquired by Houston from the Phillies in the 2011 trade for Hunter Pence, was suspended for the first 50 games of last season for a second failed drug test. At the time, it was characterized as simply a mistake or "a lapse in judgment," as his statement said.
That wasn't the real story.
His first positive test came in June 2012, and he said he quit using marijuana for the rest of the season. He went on to hit .284 with 21 homers and 79 RBIs in his first season in Double-A.
At season's end, he went to the Arizona Fall League and quickly fell back into old habits.
He knew his situation was dire when he failed a second test in December 2012, but he said he continued to get high every day.
The 50-game suspension came a month later, and he was summoned to Houston to meet with manager Bo Porter and to see a therapist, who evaluated him for addiction. It was evident to him that he needed help, he said.
Singleton was immediately admitted for a monthlong stay at an inpatient rehabilitation center.
"I knew I had a problem," he said. "Even after I failed the second drug test, I couldn't stop smoking weed. It was really bad. Me going there was definitely the best move."
He didn't feel that way when he first entered. Fearing the unknown, he said, he didn't sleep for three days straight.
"They would turn off the lights at 11:30, and I would just sit there and stare at the ceiling because I couldn't go to sleep," he said. "My heart was beating too fast. I would get night sweats. It was bad. I legitimately went through withdrawal."
Singleton desperately wanted to leave and wasn't open to the recovery process.
"But after I was there for so long, it just grew on me," he said. "I was like, 'I'm going to be here for 30 days, so I might as well get the best out of it that I can.' I used it as a learning experience."
At a time when he should have been getting in shape for spring training and a chance to make Houston's major league roster, he instead spent his days attending classes and therapy sessions with other addicts in a program for young adults.
One thing he didn't do: dwell on his missed opportunity.
"Not so much, because I knew I got myself into the situation so I had to deal with it," he said. "It wasn't like, 'I got myself here, now I hate myself.' It was like, 'I got myself here so I can't be mad at anybody but myself.'"
Although just 21 when he entered rehab, he already had a long history with marijuana, having used the drug "on and off" since he was 14. He blamed his start on the culture growing up in Long Beach, Calif., where he estimated 80 percent of his friends knew not only where to get marijuana, but how to get it within an hour.
Singleton clearly described his first experience with the drug and how it made him feel. To put it simply, he fell in love with that feeling.
And that's what drove his addiction.
"I guess I just don't like being sober," he said. "I like to change the way I feel."
In rehab he had to identify why he needed it and how to alter his behavior to avoid its traps.
"I've got to the point now where I know what I am," he said.
His stint in rehab allowed him to quit using marijuana, and he said he hasn't smoked since -- a span of more than a year -- even though he was moved to Houston's 40-man roster in October and can no longer be tested for the drug.
Last season when he made his debut in Triple-A after stopovers in both low Class A and Double-A following his suspension, he struggled. He hit just .220 in 73 games, and his old demons resurfaced.
"I went through some slight anxiety, some depression because I wasn't being successful," he said. "That was definitely difficult and that drove me to drink."
He admits to abusing alcohol as a substitute for marijuana, getting drunk almost every day and "waking up hung over every morning."
After the season, he regrouped and prepared for the Puerto Rican winter league.
"I made up my mind to be my best, so hopefully better things happen because I'm not going out drinking and partying and doing all that kind of crazy stuff," he said.
His changes seemed to pay immediate dividends. He hit a league-leading nine homers in Puerto Rico and batted .268.
Singleton reported to Astros camp in good shape and in a better place mentally than last spring, hoping to show Luhnow he is ready to compete for Houston's first-base job.
The team has been supportive during his battle, but Singleton knows he will have to stay clean to reach his goals.
He isn't receiving any treatment for his addiction, isn't currently in a program and doesn't have someone traveling with him to keep him on track.
Singleton is confident he can avoid a relapse by focusing on his opportunity, keeping better company and avoiding bad situations. He calls his life a work in progress and is focused on not being so hard on himself this season.
"Recently I've been more or less just sticking to myself and worrying about what I need to do to get better and become better as a person, not just a baseball player," he said.
If he's able to do that, the Astros foresee a big future.
"My expectation is that with everything that happened to him, we want to build up the positives from the end of last year," Luhnow said. "And get off to a real good start in Triple-A and then force his way onto the roster in Houston."

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/4/2014 9:20:03 AM   
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Don't trade this kid to Colorado. Sheesh, the NFL players think it helps curb the pain,this kid just likes smoking it.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/4/2014 9:29:21 AM   
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Nice he got on the 40-man "so he couldn't be tested anymore"
Whew ...

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/4/2014 10:15:06 AM   
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Wow, Ian Kinsler unloaded on the Rangers: said he hopes they go 0-162; called Jon Daniels a "sleazeball."

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/4/2014 10:28:42 AM   
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Yikes.
Going right across the bow with those.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/4/2014 11:29:34 AM   
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"It's a fresh start for him and a fresh start for Prince [Fielder] and us and Detroit, so we'll move on. Name calling and stuff like that, what are you going to do about that? Just take it in stride and move on."
Kinsler said in the story that he was asked to bear too much of a leadership role with the team after Michael Young left and didn't like being asked to move to first base in 2013 to make room for middle-infield prospect Jurickson Profar (something the Rangers didn't do after Kinsler voiced his reluctance). He also didn't like how he was informed of his trade to Detroit, something Daniels said he wasn't happy about, either.
Daniels said he was on an airplane to Tucson when the trade was leaked and that he left Kinsler a voicemail after he landed. Daniels also emailed assistant GM Thad Levine while on the plane, asking him to try to reach Kinsler and his agent.
Daniels said he didn't have a problem with Kinsler's 0-162 comment, chalking it up to the second baseman's competitive drive. Pitcher Matt Harrison, one of the former teammates Kinsler says in the story that he'll miss, agrees.
"He's on a different team now. He's on a team we're trying to beat," Harrison said. "I don't want them beating us and going to the playoffs, and I'm sure he was trying to say the same thing.
"No matter how good a friend you are, once you step in between the lines, all that goes away. I'm trying to get you out, no matter who you are. He's going to try to hit home runs off us just as much as anybody would. If you step on the mound, you're going to try to get your mom out. It doesn't matter who's in there."
Josh Hamilton, a former teammate who left the Rangers to join the Los Angeles Angels prior to the 2013 season, knows better than most.
"At least I won't be the only villain in Texas now," the Angels outfielder told Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/5/2014 1:28:52 PM   
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Early bad break for KC

The Royals got bad news today when they learned that they will be without right-hander Luke Hochevar until at least late May or early June due to a sprained ulnar collateral ligament, manager Ned Yost tells Andy McCullough of the Kansas City Star. Hochevar also has a strain in the musculature surrounding the ligament. He will be shut down entirely for two to three weeks.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/7/2014 9:44:20 AM   
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RIP Frank Jobe
Unfortunately, a well-known, important name in the baseball world.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/7/2014 9:45:34 AM   
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RIP Frank Jobe
Unfortunately, a well-known, important name in the baseball world.


To some, probably a quack

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/7/2014 1:16:58 PM   
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KC releases Brad Penny

Hochevar bypasses rest, will undergo TJ surgery.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/7/2014 1:33:33 PM   
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KC releases Brad Penny

Hochevar bypasses rest, will undergo TJ surgery.


Any word on James Andrews' opinion?

Saw a blurb in the paper today -- turns out the Twins haven't been completely unsuccessful in resting UCL -- Kepler rested his last year and it worked out. So, 1 for 6!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/7/2014 1:38:08 PM   
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Same proficiency we expect from our hitters!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 3/7/2014 1:42:25 PM   
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KC releases Brad Penny

Hochevar bypasses rest, will undergo TJ surgery.


Any word on James Andrews' opinion?

Saw a blurb in the paper today -- turns out the Twins haven't been completely unsuccessful in resting UCL -- Kepler rested his last year and it worked out. So, 1 for 6!



Andrews/Jobe/Quacks.

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