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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

NFL finds Patriots employees probably deflated balls and Brady was 'generally aware'

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/nfl/302789061.html

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

How about a five game suspension for Brady, huh?

Not likely I know. But cheating is cheating whether it's done with roids or gambling or deflating balls. There should be some consequence.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

How about a five game suspension for Brady, huh?

Not likely I know. But cheating is cheating whether it's done with roids or gambling or deflating balls. There should be some consequence.

They need to do something. The NE franchise has had multiple infractions.

Agree Brady needs to be suspended.

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All of the balls—Patriots balls and Colts balls—lost pressure by halftime. Significantly, the 11 Patriot balls showed greater decreases than the four Colt balls tested. More significantly, judging by what the scientists employed by Wells told him, eight of the 11 balls tested at halftime fell within the expected range of pressure drop based on the measurements of at least one of the two NFL officials who gauged the pigskins. This, more than anything else, invalidates the conclusions of the Wells Report. Though Ted Wells theorizes a conspiracy to depressurize balls, measurements by NFL referees on the majority of the Patriots balls read precisely where the scientific firm employed by the investigators said a ball inflated to 12.5 psi–the NFL minimum–would fall to (between 11.52 and 11.32) as a result of game-time conditions.

Since the psi measurements of the two referees varied somewhat, the opposite–that a majority of the balls failed to meet the expected level–is also true. Remarkably, the report chooses to interpret the data exclusively in a manner that suggests malfeasance. “Most of the individual Patriots measurements recorded at halftime, however, were lower than the range predicted by the Ideal Gas Law,” the report reads. But the fact that by at least one or the other referee’s measurement, the air pressure of eight of eleven balls fell to expected levels undermines the verdict of “probable” guilt.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

"More probable than not" shouldn't lose you 'At least a 1st round pick' and see Tom Brady suspended for up to a year.



If this was our team there would be no end to the defending of deflategate and outrage over pending repercussions.

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ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

Since the Pats can't be beaten on the field, let's piss and moan about the air in the balls.

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ORIGINAL: JC2015

The Patriots are champion because Pete Carroll made the dumbest playcall in NFL history - not because of cheating

Seattle should be back to back champs with an ounce of sense

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New contract on the way

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Over the past few weeks, it has become possible to sketch the general shape of some of the negotiations, not to provide hard-and-fast negotiating points but to show some of the issues the two sides will need to work out in order to bridge a gap that right now can be counted in the millions. Actually, it's closer to 10s of millions.

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

It's really ridiculous. Without even having proof!

My favorite point on it is this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/10/wells-report-disregards-andersons-best-recollection-on-a-key-piece-of-evidence/

Now the balls may and may not have been under (we still have no idea honestly), but essentially IMO the NFL tried to lead a "gotcha" investigation and it botched it. And now they put themselves in the position, by making a big deal of it, and leaking erroneous reports from the beginning (2 PSI under, etc.) that this was a sham of an "investigation" from the beginning. The NFL was always going to find fault and come down hard regardless of what they found, or find themselves with egg on their faces. And ultimately, they didn't find anything. Really stupid. And such a waste of time and money. The Pats and Brady will both appeal, and likely win IMO.