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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1

The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's [:)]

In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.

A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Looks like the Vikings are discussing signing Harris. Not a done deal, yet.

http://www.twincities.com/2020/03/31/vikings-discussing-possible-long-term-extension-for-safety-anthony-harris-sources-say/

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is from Darren Doogie Wolfson on Twitter

TBD on what/if the #Vikings do. I am told his knee is doing great (injured it Week 6 then missed rest of year). Vikings do have a solid relationship with his side, and their new DBs coach knows Kirkpatrick well.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is from Darren Doogie Wolfson on Twitter

TBD on what/if the #Vikings do. I am told his knee is doing great (injured it Week 6 then missed rest of year). Vikings do have a solid relationship with his side, and their new DBs coach knows Kirkpatrick well.

Signing Kirkpatrick and extending Harris would put us in good position going into draft.

CB could be pushed back to 2nd or 3rd Round: Gladney, Robertson, Igbinoghene

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1

The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's [:)]

In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.

A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.

Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.

I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.

Remember the week it happened before the game against Buffalo? Probably the worst team in the league and we lost 27-6 at home...it at least cost us the playoffs.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1

The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's [:)]

In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.

A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.

Are we saying that our team cannot utilize our options more than we can utilize other teams options? Or are we saying that other teams cannot utilize our teams options more than our team utilizes them?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

What would you be willing to part with to add this player to our roster?

Definitely not a first. This is a good draft for wide receivers. A team that missed out the receivers they wanted in the first and second rounds, (could it be our team) might be willing to pick him up for a late second or third.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/30/brandin-cooks-could-be-on-the-move-again/amp/#referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1

The offense that we are running isn't going to be featuring the WR's. Yes, they will run the route tree and catch many passes and move the chains, but we simply don't need a guy like Cooks, for those kinds of dollars, to play the roll we need. It'd be great to have the wild pass offense that has four stud receivers, all getting a 1000 yards, but it's simply not in the makeup of this offense. We need a few guys that run crisp routes and catch the ball when it's thrown to them. You have that in AT, Bisi, Sharpe and probably a guy we grab in the 2nd round. The Vikings offense isn't in need of a $15 million dollar receiver. Between our TE's and WR's, the passing portion of the play book is/will be, covered. Get both of the lines figured out and we are in a good place, oh, an a couple CB's [:)]

In some ways it might be harder to defend us if we utilize all our options more than other teams. Of course having a good running game will help our passing game, too.

A team literally cannot utilize all their options more than other teams.

Are we saying that our team cannot utilize our options more than we can utilize other teams options? Or are we saying that other teams cannot utilize our teams options more than our team utilizes them?

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Griffen still has not signed on with anyone so I'm thinking there is still a chance he may come back, but apparently we have options.

https://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2020/03/vikings-have-free-agent-options-to-replace-griffen-with-veteran-rusher/

When you say goodbye to the fans you are closing that door.

Ever played Beer Pong? Some dudes have a magnificent talent for plucking the ball right out of cup as it circles its way down. Although I didnt and still dont like the Barr resigning, you have to give Spielman credit for snatching Barr as he circled the Jets cup.

Yes Barr changed his mind and Griff seems to have moved on but you never know when those greasy deux ex machina GM fingers are coming to pluck you ... just when you thought you had gotten away.

Many forget what happened to our team once Griffen went off of the rails after a few games in 2018 or 2017. We paid him his full salary but it help lead to our horrible finish for the season.

I think you are overstating that a bit, we went 3-2 with him out, 4-5 once he returned. Plus this is 2 years later, and we are more prepared to replace him IMO with Odinbigo hitting his stride.

Remember the week it happened before the game against Buffalo? Probably the worst team in the league and we lost 27-6 at home...it at least cost us the playoffs.

I think that was more due to the massive across the board distraction to the team caused by Griffins goings on the week leading up to the Buffalo game, moreso than lesser performance put up by Griffins backup.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

It took a few weeks for it to get back to normal....the Vikes owe Griffin nothing. They stood by him, paid him, supported him for half a year when he had the breakdown. Rumor was swirling Waynes was involved also (seeing/dating/etc. Griffin's significant other) but I don't know if it was valid or not.

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It took a few weeks for it to get back to normal....the Vikes owe Griffin nothing. They stood by him, paid him, supported him for half a year when he had the breakdown. Rumor was swirling Waynes was involved also (seeing/dating/etc. Griffin's significant other) but I don't know if it was valid or not.

They were neighbors. During his psychotic break, Griffen went and pounded on Waynes' door when Waynes' significant other was home alone. Nobody was foolling around with the other's girlfriend or wife.

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Found this on Vikingsmessageboard.com but it's not on RotoWorld

Adam Schefter

@ESPN_Adam

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Minnesota Vikings have extended safety Anthony Harris. Contract details are 3yr/$34m with a $19.3m signing bonus & $26m gtd w/ a club option for a 4th yr at $15m gtd MN holds onto a key player

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Found this on Vikingsmessageboard.com but it's not on RotoWorld

Adam Schefter

@ESPN_Adam

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Minnesota Vikings have extended safety Anthony Harris. Contract details are 3yr/$34m with a $19.3m signing bonus & $26m gtd w/ a club option for a 4th yr at $15m gtd MN holds onto a key player

I'm guessing fake.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

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As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

Its as clear cut as can be, he had to go ... unless you think we should have altered the team to appease a diva-ish WR.

No, Zimmer didnt sabotage the Harris trade prospects ... safeties, guards and fullbacks simply are valued under CBs, OTs and RBs for obvious reasons. That and the fact we already have a top caliber, highly paid safety on the roster has more to do with our lack of trade leverage than Zimmer opening his mouth.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: David F.

As much as I'd love to see Harris extended I don't think it will happen. I think the talk of extending him is to flush out any team that's sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I imagine we'll end up taking a 4th or 5th rounder for him which is still better than nothing. Zimmer sabotaged the trade effort before the whole thing even began by saying safety wasn't a priority or 'important' or whatever his comment was.

If Harris goes I like the amount of cap space it opens up but that's it. The four best players on our team were Hunter, Kendricks, Diggs, and Harris. It seems like poor management to lose two of your best players. I understand Diggs might not have been salvageable but really we'll never know.

Its as clear cut as can be, he had to go ... unless you think we should have altered the team to appease a diva-ish WR.

No, Zimmer didnt sabotage the Harris trade prospects ... safeties, guards and fullbacks simply are valued under CBs, OTs and RBs for obvious reasons. That and the fact we already have a top caliber, highly paid safety on the roster has more to do with our lack of trade leverage than Zimmer opening his mouth.

Diggs had to go given the current environment that's for sure. Is the environment of 'run and stop the run' a great idea for today's game? I know, I know it is what it is. It just seems to me that a team should look to keep it's best players and build around that rather than establish an identity and then try to fit the pieces that way. We fell back-asswards into two elite talents in Diggs and Harris and we barely got to use them. Why can't there be two elite safeties? Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor want to know. Can you imagine if Seattle had let half the legion of boom move on because they didn't want too much invested in one area?