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TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/14/2025 9:18:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen
Doubt Cincy trades Burrow unless he eventually wants out.

Agreed. The only way Cincy would trade away their franchise QB in his prime and absorb $56 million in dead cap is if Burrow forces the issue. This whole thing started because Burrow made some cryptic comments recently and the NFL rumor mill is running with it.



dontplaymista -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/14/2025 11:47:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen
Doubt Cincy trades Burrow unless he eventually wants out.

Agreed. The only way Cincy would trade away their franchise QB in his prime and absorb $56 million in dead cap is if Burrow forces the issue. This whole thing started because Burrow made some cryptic comments recently and the NFL rumor mill is running with it.


Per an article from Russini apparently Burrow doesn't want out of Cincinnati but he is tired of losing, his week 14 post-game remarks were said out of a desire to win. I assume he's trying to throw his weight to bring some needed change to the org more or less.

PS on an unrelated note thanks Toby for assisting me with the IP ban issue so I can finally browse and post from my home PC! I stopped posting as I could only use the site from my phone and that's more of a hassle than it's worth.

What are you all hoping to see for the rest of the season with the vikes?



TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/14/2025 12:36:54 PM)

What I am hoping for is McCarthy to build on last week and show he is a legitimate starting NFL QB. Beyond that, I hope KAM can figure out how to draft.



David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/14/2025 2:30:03 PM)

Barring a 4th quarter miracle by the Browns, the Vikings will be eliminated from the Playoffs before tipoff.



Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/14/2025 3:23:07 PM)

Speaking of playoffs. Chiefs not making it and Mahomes went down with, what looked to be bad, a knee injury on the last drive.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/14/2025 5:30:02 PM)

KOC to JJM: be like me, a slow pocket passer.

Payton to Nix: be like Brees, a dynamic QB.



marty -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 1:15:58 AM)

I was listening to Seattle game, and it sounded like Sam choked another 1st half of a big game, at home, against a mediocre defense that also didn't have Sauce Gardner, just producing field goals, and falling behind to Old Man Rivers.

But thanks to a strong supporting cast, the Seahawks won the game.

It doesn't seem like Sam would have been worth price, would rather take a step back this year and see if McCarthy can develop into something.



Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 7:18:16 AM)

**** all the talk about Joe burrow..

Kwesi might suck at drafting.. or his picks might take a couple years to develop..

I’m not sure which is true, anymore..

But giving up multiple draft picks for injury prone,Ayer’s ISPROVEN, BY FAR, to suck far worse than missing on a draft pick.

You get nothing for picks you can’t take.. and our shelling out of draft picks has got us basically bad choices in return..

Not getting Hamilton.. in exchange for Cine?

Just stop trying to be cute and maneuver picks..



Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 7:45:11 AM)

Tanner Weber
@Purple_Post
Highest QB passer ratings from Week 14 👀

1. Josh Allen: 139.7 (Bills)
2. Matthew Stafford: 131.2 (Rams)
3. JJ McCarthy: 129.2 (#Vikings)
4. Jordan Love: 120.7 (Packers)
5. Sam Darnold: 111.7 (Seahawks)



ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 8:00:59 AM)

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o'connell blew another end of the first half yesterday...he realized that he was being exposed again, so he jumped back into his
mccarthy-eze game plan....



Murph -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 8:35:13 AM)

I think we should prioritize extending Nailor.

He and McCarthy have really good chemistry.



Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 8:44:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Murph

I think we should prioritize extending Nailor.

He and McCarthy have really good chemistry.

He's looking like the best receiver of the 3 lately.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:31:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Murph

I think we should prioritize extending Nailor.

He and McCarthy have really good chemistry.

He's looking like the best receiver of the 3 lately.


+1 on both posts. Outside of the 2 TDs last night Nailor hasn't done much, but he makes the best of his limited opportunities. He's probably being eyed big-time by a lot of teams as an under-the-radar type.



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:33:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

**** all the talk about Joe burrow..

Kwesi might suck at drafting.. or his picks might take a couple years to develop..

I’m not sure which is true, anymore..

But giving up multiple draft picks for injury prone,Ayer’s ISPROVEN, BY FAR, to suck far worse than missing on a draft pick.

You get nothing for picks you can’t take.. and our shelling out of draft picks has got us basically bad choices in return..

Not getting Hamilton.. in exchange for Cine?

Just stop trying to be cute and maneuver picks..


9 Games in---have to keep playing JJ. He has shown the chops for Prime Time games for sure.



Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:36:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

What I am hoping for is McCarthy to build on last week and show he is a legitimate starting NFL QB. Beyond that, I hope KAM can figure out how to draft.


So far so good.

Looked like he had more time in the pocket as well, or he was getting rid of the ball quicker.



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:43:31 AM)

Very true post:

Janik Eckardt
@JanikEckardt
·
Aug 14, 2024
The worst part is not the missed 2024 season.

Much worse is that McCarthy is basically a rookie in 2025. And we were supposed to be a serious team in 2025.



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:46:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

What I am hoping for is McCarthy to build on last week and show he is a legitimate starting NFL QB. Beyond that, I hope KAM can figure out how to draft.


So far so good.

Looked like he had more time in the pocket as well, or he was getting rid of the ball quicker.


The low ball release will have to looked into....he gets more batted down then anyone.



Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:52:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

I was listening to Seattle game, and it sounded like Sam choked another 1st half of a big game, at home, against a mediocre defense that also didn't have Sauce Gardner, just producing field goals, and falling behind to Old Man Rivers.

But thanks to a strong supporting cast, the Seahawks won the game.

It doesn't seem like Sam would have been worth price, would rather take a step back this year and see if McCarthy can develop into something.



I had that game on in the background, so I "saw" most of it. He was shaky in the first half for sure but on the final drive to win it he fired 2 lasers that got them in to FG range and both were against the blitz.



Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 9:56:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

What I am hoping for is McCarthy to build on last week and show he is a legitimate starting NFL QB. Beyond that, I hope KAM can figure out how to draft.


So far so good.

Looked like he had more time in the pocket as well, or he was getting rid of the ball quicker.


The low ball release will have to looked into....he gets more batted down then anyone.


Part of it is the slow wind up. It's something that can definitely be corrected.



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 10:04:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rob Viking

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: TJSweens

What I am hoping for is McCarthy to build on last week and show he is a legitimate starting NFL QB. Beyond that, I hope KAM can figure out how to draft.


So far so good.

Looked like he had more time in the pocket as well, or he was getting rid of the ball quicker.


The low ball release will have to looked into....he gets more batted down then anyone.


Part of it is the slow wind up. It's something that can definitely be corrected.


That and it is a low release.



Karl Juhnke -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 10:08:44 AM)

Re: JJ’s mechanics.

Plenty of examples of QBs who were able to clean that up. It’s not something to work on midseason. The weekly grind of preparing for games is enough on his plate. But make it an off-season project. He’s still so young. The QB we are seeing now is far, far from a finished product. But it’s easy to see that there is a ton of potential, along with all the intangibles to make him be that franchise quarterback eventually.



Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 10:12:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Re: JJ’s mechanics.

Plenty of examples of QBs who were able to clean that up. It’s not something to work on midseason. The weekly grind of preparing for games is enough on his plate. But make it an off-season project. He’s still so young. The QB we are seeing now is far, far from a finished product. But it’s easy to see that there is a ton of potential, along with all the intangibles to make him be that franchise quarterback eventually.



Biggest key....big moments aren't big for him. He shook off the first INT before he got to the sideline.


VNS Media
@VikingsNewsSkol
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4m
JJ McCarthy on Primetime in Jerry World:

62.5% Completion
265 Total Yards
3 Total Touchdowns
1 Interception
108 Passer Rating



Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 10:14:52 AM)

Anybody got the PFF grades for last night??



ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 10:43:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Very true post:

Janik Eckardt
@JanikEckardt
·
Aug 14, 2024
The worst part is not the missed 2024 season.

Much worse is that McCarthy is basically a rookie in 2025. And we were supposed to be a serious team in 2025.


yes, imagine if o'connell had less ego, and a little bit of experience in developing young qb's...it would have been much more interesting had he been running a workable scheme and play calling for mccarthy since september... we'd be in the mix right now for some postseason action and more mccarthy maturation....



Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talkk (12/15/2025 10:56:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

The QB we are seeing now is far, far from a finished product. But it’s easy to see that there is a ton of potential, along with all the intangibles to make him be that franchise quarterback eventually.


That's been my take on JJ. Ive been listening to a lot of negative opinions, mostly elsewhere, about how bad he sucks with very few taking into account how few opportunities he's had as a NFL QB. He's still hasn't reached double digits in starts, yet -- what, half a season?



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